The 5 year plan (1 Viewer)

[Deleted member 7943]

Listening to frank lampard on MOTD 2 he talks about how younger players will always bring some inconsistency.. we probably could do with an experienced centre half and an experienced midfielder .

But we are past that now

 

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[shmmeee]

Have they done a poor job?
Aside from the lack of a hamer being prioritised?

Character isn’t what it was when Robins was bringing players in.

 

[nicksar]

I doubt King stay would stay at the club for long if we got promoted

He said from day one he's a "Trader"... he'll cash in asap if we get promoted.
That's mutually beneficial for us fans and him,all ok with me tbh.

 

[SkyBlueSteve81]

King has a quandary. If he wants the tools to get promoted he needs to break the wage structure. You need a miracle to get promoted with a £20k salary per player cap. That’s the tension. Do we go for it and overstretch the finances and all that brings or do we hope for that miracle season where things click and a relatively lowly paid squad get us promoted.

Surely we could do something with incentives rather than raise the wage cap?

Lets assume the wage cap is £20k as has been suggested and the recruitment team identify a player that would they think would take us to the next level. Doug needs to get a bit creative and offer the player the £20k weekly salary but throw in a one-off bonus of £1.04m upon promotion. That equates to an extra £20k a week and means the player in essence is on £40k a week but only if the club achieves it's target of promotion. You could easily do that for 3 or 4 players if needs be, promotion to the PL is valued at well over £100m so paying one of bonuses of £3-4m would be a drop in the ocean.

Granted, most players these days would probably be reluctant to take that kind of deal but it's up to Doug and Mark Robbins to 'sell' them on the direction the club is heading in and trying to get them to buy into it.

Minimal risk for the club because if things gone a bit pear shaped we are only committed to the base salary which is within the clubs budget and structure.

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

If we’re not promoted then MVE, Wright, Sheaf, Simms will potentially be gone. Conservative £50m there. Big issue will be I think Robins won’t be trusted with the money and will likely be sacked.

I’m not one who wants Robins out, but at the same time would having a new manager be awful? Probably not if the appointment is a good one. A new style of football may be exactly what we need tbh. The main issue atm is a lack of quality managers available but maybe by the end of the season availabilities may have changed and maybe Doug could rustle something up that turns out to be decent?

 

[Batu1969]

Struggle to understand how Dean Austin and the recruitment team could continue to close targets other than a no.6, all the way to the close of the transfer window. Especially when there is no cover for Sheaf (his skill set) in another squad player or in the aggregate of our squad. With Sheaf injured at Stevenage and concerns he’d be poached before the close of window, the warning light was on all through the recruitment window.

A lot has been achieved across the club in the last five years (thanks to all involved MR, DK etc..) but I fear the success is fragile. This recruitment oversight could have serious ramifications and create a domino effect that undoes so much of the good work we’ve seen.

 

[Perennial Lurker]

Struggle to understand how Dean Richards and the recruitment team could continued to close targets other than a no.6, all the way to the close of the transfer window. Especially when there is no cover for Sheaf (his skill set) in another squad player or in the aggregate of our squad. With Sheaf injured at Stevenage and concerns he’d be poached before the close of window, the warning light was on all through the recruitment window.

A lot has been achieved across the club in the last five years (thanks to all involved MR, DK etc..) but I fear the success is fragile. This recruitment oversight could have serious ramifications and create a domino effect that undoes so much of the good work we’ve seen.

Who is Dean Richards
And I don't think we didn't sign a midfielder on purpose

 

[Cally Fedora]

Exactly. It wasn’t an oversight. Stamenic and Browne were close. Just couldn’t land anyone suitable. It happens

 

[clint van damme]

Exactly. It wasn’t an oversight. Stamenic and Browne were close. Just couldn’t land anyone suitable. It happens

It does. But if the stories are to be believed misses out on Browne was a right balls up

 

[Perennial Lurker]

It does. But if the stories are to be believed misses out on Browne was a right balls up

We don't know what happened, some of the assumptions could be right could be wrong but I'll bet Sunderland offered more money

 

[Saddlebrains]

We don't know what happened, some of the assumptions could be right could be wrong but I'll bet Sunderland offered more money

They did

But only after we had agreed on less here. It was going for Stamenic after promising Browne a cuddle after sex that meant he came back from his wedding and said 'na you're alright'

Sunderland then came in for him after getting wind of it and upped their wage offer because Sheff Utd came in also on hearing the same

 

[Perennial Lurker]

They did

But only after we had agreed on less here. It was going after Stamenic after promising Browne a cuddle after sex that meant after his wedding he came back and said 'na you're alright'

Sunderland then came in for him after getting wind of it and upped their wage offer because Sheff Utd came in also on hearing the same

Shame

 

[baldy]

They did

But only after we had agreed on less here. It was going for Stamenic after promising Browne a cuddle after sex that meant he came back from his wedding and said 'na you're alright'

Sunderland then came in for him after getting wind of it and upped their wage offer because Sheff Utd came in also on hearing the same

What is that analogy all about?

 

[Saddlebrains]

What is that analogy all about?

Shagging

 

[Batu1969]

Exactly. It wasn’t an oversight. Stamenic and Browne were close. Just couldn’t land anyone suitable. It happens

Couldn’t they though? Did it have to be even a suitable player, just a player would could win the ball in midfield. Not asking for all of Sheaf’s ability, just enough to stop the centre of the field being owned by the opposition. Are there less than a handful of these players across the globe that meet City’s pay structure? I doubt it.

 

[Cally Fedora]

But it wouldn’t go like that would it. We sign the player whose skill set is “can win the ball in midfield”. When his limitations are exposed he’s the new boo boy, he still draws a wage and everyone gets in a frenzy with Doug and insists he must splash out on the replacement. Something of a lose-lose.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

We should just hand them the trophy now…

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

They did

But only after we had agreed on less here. It was going for Stamenic after promising Browne a cuddle after sex that meant he came back from his wedding and said 'na you're alright'

Sunderland then came in for him after getting wind of it and upped their wage offer because Sheff Utd came in also on hearing the same

Of the two, you’d take Stamenic too who played in the UCL last year…

It’s a shame we missed out Browne and don’t blame him for being peeved off at being offered ‘a cuddle after sex’. Sunderland is a similar project to ours, but with respect, I think we’ll finish above them comfortably (again). They start too quickly and end up fizzing out in most the seasons we’ve been in the same league (bar 22/23).

From what you said about Matty James earlier (assuming it’s correct), I imagine MR decided on him as a stop gap player until we can identify the next players to chase. Which makes sense and now the window is shut we get the deal done and add him to the squad.

 

[Adge]

He said from day one he's a "Trader"... he'll cash in asap if we get promoted.
That's mutually beneficial for us fans and him,all ok with me tbh.

Yep-no problem with that either. If he gets us to the promised land then good luck to him if he sails off into the sunset with a decent return.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

I like the way a few in here are referring to our owner as ' King' now instead of ' Doug' this and Doug that.
That's more like it. Can't stand the love-in that seems to have developed since Sisu buggered off. He's a businessman who is here not just for football and sooner or later he'll have to make some decisions that aren't going to be universally popular. Welcome , Mr King.

 

[Hobo]

People need to realize 5 year plans in businesses are common stock. Future plans to do with aspirations, finance and growth.

5 year plans are not set in stone as they are revisited annually and revised, they are fluid and rolling.

Some of our fans are potentially going to be very disappointed when they realize the aspirations are not a promise and not set in stone.

However I do think the clubs aspirations are realistic and potentially achievable.