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mr_monkey

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #1
Time for Coventry City and Wasps to secure Ricoh return

Another day, another piece about the stadium, another article that doesn't mention the indemnity clause

The last paragraph of the article actually makes my blood boil
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #2
Aren't wasps great? Lovely friendly people.
That's what they would have you think
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #3
And yet again painting the franchise as the good guys doing their best, it’s almost like it’s been written by them.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #4
You would think they would ask them if the indemnity is now dropped while pushing how great they are?
 

mr_monkey

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #5
Sick Boy said:
And yet again painting the franchise as the good guys doing their best, it’s almost like it’s been written by them.
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But the "journalists" from the telegraph wouldn't get their free wasps flags if they actually asked a probing question
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #6
mr_monkey said:
But the "journalists" from the telegraph wouldn't get their wasps flags if they wrote the truth
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The worst part is that there will be lapsed fans who take it at face value and actually fall for it.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #7
Sick Boy said:
The worst part is that there will be lapsed fans who take it at face value and actually fall for it.
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The Trust will probably make another statement about it soon to try and back it up.
 
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mr_monkey

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #8
Nick said:
The Trust will probably make another statement about it soon to try and back it up.
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It's almost like all of this is somehow not random and actually planned
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #9
mr_monkey said:
It's almost like all of this is somehow not random and actually planned
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Of course it is.

I'm sure the council will have been briefing them.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #10
To be fair, bar the last sentence, I actually thought the article was ok?!

I'm one for paper bashing (especially ones with absolutely sh!te websites...) but didn't see much wrong with that one - other than the last sentence.

Maybe it's just me.
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #11
Sick Boy said:
The worst part is that there will be lapsed fans who take it at face value and actually fall for it.
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Lapsed fans remember the club going to Sixfields. The return and then the exile. Once bitten... the club (s) will need some good PR.
 

usskyblue

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #12
Fuck them. We all know who’s side they’re on.

BUT this shit only gets written because Wasps and the club are okay to trade PR points disguised as ‘pleasantries’ which don’t address the actual fucking reason why we’re not playing at the Ricoh.

One or both of them (bearing in mind Wasps don’t like the ‘indemnity’ word) need to reiterate what is actually required. Zero indemnity or we stay at St Andrews... or can a deal be struck?

What makes my pissboil is that Wasps and the Club aren’t fucking honest...so it leaves room for bullshit no-news like this
 
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mr_monkey

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #13
Skyblueweeman said:
To be fair, bar the last sentence, I actually thought the article was ok?!

I'm one for paper bashing (especially ones with absolutely sh!te websites...) but didn't see much wrong with that one - other than the last sentence.

Maybe it's just me.
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Other than not mentioning the actual reason why we didn't play at the Ricoh last season you mean
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #14
mr_monkey said:
Other than not mentioning the actual reason why we didn't play at the Ricoh last season you mean
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It could mention a lot of other things to be fair. Its not as if its saying 'Coventrys 2nd best sports team has done well...now Sisu should bow down to Wasps'.

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mr_monkey

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #15
Skyblueweeman said:
It could mention a lot of other things to be fair. Its not as if its saying 'Coventrys 2nd best sports team has done well...now Sisu should bow down to Wasps'.

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But surely an article like this should be based on facts, the fact is that if the indemnity clause wasn't added by wasps at the last minute we would have been playing at the Ricoh last season, wasps drop that and it's all go...
you would think the local press would mention this rather than blowing smoke up the arse of a London rugby club
 
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usskyblue

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #16
The elephant (stood on a ball) in the room...

SISU have been the only ones that freely mentioned the indemnity (worded differently granted).

Those who don’t like to mention, or have never mentioned the indemnity are;

Local radio
Local papers
The Trust
Wasps
 
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mr_monkey

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #17
usskyblue said:
The elephant (stood on a ball) in the room...

SISU have been the only ones that freely mentioned the indemnity (worded differently granted).

Those who don’t like to mention, or have never mentioned the indemnity are;

Local radio
Local papers
The Trust
Wasps
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Or in the case of local radio deny it's a thing
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #18
Must be getting short on money so asked their friends to write a nice piece about them.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #19
Skyblueweeman said:
To be fair, bar the last sentence, I actually thought the article was ok?!

I'm one for paper bashing (especially ones with absolutely sh!te websites...) but didn't see much wrong with that one - other than the last sentence.

Maybe it's just me.
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any article on our current predicament that doesn't mention the indemnity isn't a good article in my opinion. It's deliberately omitting a huge factor in the impasse.
 
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shepardo01

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #20
Gilbert jumping on it... i have replied...
 
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JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Jun 13, 2020
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Andy Turner commits to asking abt the indemnity clause.
 
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shepardo01

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #22
JimmyHillsbeard said:


Andy Turner commits to asking abt the indemnity clause.
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Don't think Wasps have ever mentioned it have they... always act like they would never do such a thing!!
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #23
The propaganda tone is lightening as the financial benefits to Wasps having ccfc at the ricoh increase. No longer do they dig in to sisu so much, instead try and sell the dream.
 
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ovduk78

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #24
JimmyHillsbeard said:


Andy Turner commits to asking abt the indemnity clause.
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As it was the deal breaker last time surely it would have been 1 of the first questions asked by any self respected journalist?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #25
Weird how nobody wants to ask them.

When Neil was in the trust he said he didn't ask them because "it never came up".

It's almost as if they are being told to try and play it down / ignore it.
 

olderskyblue

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #26
Nick said:
Weird how nobody wants to ask them.

When Neil was in the trust he said he didn't ask them because "it never came up".

It's almost as if they are being told to try and play it down / ignore it.
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Which Neil?
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #27
clint van damme said:
any article on our current predicament that doesn't mention the indemnity isn't a good article in my opinion. It's deliberately omitting a huge factor in the impasse.
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Fair point. Like I said, could be a lot worse. I was expecting a lot worse when I saw the thread title to be honest.

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shepardo01

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #28
Nick said:
Weird how nobody wants to ask them.

When Neil was in the trust he said he didn't ask them because "it never came up".

It's almost as if they are being told to try and play it down / ignore it.
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Gilbert saying he'll ask.... but expects "NDA" response... Turner has liked that tweet....
 

shepardo01

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  • Jun 13, 2020
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #30
shepardo01 said:
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If that's there response I would suggest it is still in place. If Wasps had dropped that demand, which has been widely said to be the issue preventing us playing in Cov, they would make sure it made its way to the press, even if it was via a 'leak'.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #31
chiefdave said:
If that's there response I would suggest it is still in place. If Wasps had dropped that demand, which has been widely said to be the issue preventing us playing in Cov, they would make sure it made its way to the press, even if it was via a 'leak'.
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Im sure they have never bothered about NDAs before when it suits them.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #32
shepardo01 said:
Gilbert saying he'll ask.... but expects "NDA" response... Turner has liked that tweet....
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He's supposed to be a fucking journalist.
You still ask. Jesus wept.
 
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mr_monkey

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #33
shepardo01 said:
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I am shocked to my very core
 

mr_monkey

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #34
clint van damme said:
He's supposed to be a fucking journalist.
You still ask. Jesus wept.
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None of them are "journalists" just paid for pr by wasps/council
 
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Nick

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  • Jun 13, 2020
  • #35
clint van damme said:
He's supposed to be a fucking journalist.
You still ask. Jesus wept.
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Exactly, then you put in the article that they declined.

The thing is, they seem to think everybody else is thick. It's the same problem that the Trust has had.

Gilbert used to love the "We just present things and let them make their own minds up". The same as when he was posting fake book reviews on his book, posting on journalist sites AND the Telegraph site using the same alias. Sometimes people can just see straight through it.

Think actual journalism is long gone, they are just PR people who push whatever they are told or if it suits them.

There's a journalist in the city who once phoned up my work and wanted some fairly expensive stuff for free, he said he would give some shout outs to the "crew". He got told to fuck right off.
 
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