Talk to each other about playing at the Ricoh - the campaign starts here (1 Viewer)

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 4, 2013

Forget the blame game, where is the thread where we express our wish that both sides sit around a table and thrash out a deal ASAP?

Here it is, that's where.

@richh87 · Aug 4, 2013

SISU wouldn't play there if it was free - it's not what they are after. Also they can't be reasoned with in their disgusting attempts to get the Ricoh.

No point discussing things with them any more.

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 4, 2013

So you don't want both sides to get together to discuss a deal?

I do, I want the club kept in Coventry.

Otis · Aug 4, 2013

Deleted member 5849 said:
So you don't want both sides to get together to discuss a deal?

I do, I want the club kept in Coventry.

If they don't sit down and talk then that is clearly not going to happen.

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ohitsaidwalker king power · Aug 4, 2013

I agree.. of course I want CCFC playing in Coventry... the thought of the Northampton thing makes me so angry... but for SISU to accuse ACL and others of intransigence, when Joy allegedly made the statement that the only way back is for ACL to hand over the keys to the RICOH.... makes me even more convinced of SISU's overall plan.
On this basis, regrettably I doubt we have a way forward, but if there is one.. I'm up for it.

sky blue john · Aug 4, 2013

Sorry but my feelings now is to starve Sisu's cash flow which isn't going to happen if they are playing at the Ricoh !!!!

olderskyblue · Aug 4, 2013

NW, it appears the only worthwhile discussion would be if the Ricoh was on offer for next to nothing. Are you suggesting ACL/CCC should do this?

Snozz_is_god · Aug 4, 2013

sky blue john said:
Sorry but my feelings now is to starve Sisu's cash flow which isn't going to happen if they are playing at the Ricoh !!!!

My thoughts as well, this seasons is lost before it even started. If you go to any 'home' games at Northampton or spend money with SISU in any way, you're just prolonging the agony I'm afraid.

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 4, 2013

What has any of that got to do with pushing both sides to talk to each other, rather than talk through the media?

Might be better if we focussed our energies on pushing for the most uimoportant thing first, rather than looking to see who blames who for what.

sky blue john · Aug 4, 2013

Snozz_is_god said:
My thoughts as well, this seasons is lost before it even started. If you go to any
'home' games at Northampton or spend money with SISU in any way, you're just prolonging the agony I'm afraid.

Exactly minimizing the support at northampton is key to getting Sisu to sell up !!!
Remember Fisher arrogance expecting it to be bad for a few games and then everyone to then everyone to start flooding back !!
There is no argument to support the team at sixfields !!!
If your prepared to go to sixfields then just go to away games instead, that's what i will be doing !!!

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 4, 2013

sky blue john said:
There is no argument to support the team at sixfields !!!

There is.

Skybluepiglet · Aug 4, 2013

Northern Wisdom...there clearly IS NO mileage in traveling to Shitfields for the future of our club

SISU are now asset stripping the club,,,,I know inside you want to support "THE BOYS" ... but to watch football@ Northampton is sending a message to SISU that
"hey..we don't like it, but we'll do it cus we have no choice"
WE DO HAVE A CHOICE..starve the SISU tossers of cash .just like they are starving us of a club in our own city!!!

If it doesn't taste nasty..the medicine won't work!!

oldskyblue58 · Aug 4, 2013

The basis of these talks would be rent or ownership?

Thats the problem I think, One side only wants rent not ownership the other only ownership not rent

deanocity3 · Aug 4, 2013

SISU have no money other wise keep players and build stadium.
But they don't,there business is asset stripping.

CarpyCov84 · Aug 4, 2013

Forget the Ricoh - STARVE SISU OUT !!!

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 4, 2013

oldskyblue58 said:
The basis of these talks would be rent or ownership?

Thats the problem I think, One side only wants rent not ownership the other only ownership not rent

Both.

Open minds, open positions.

Or we just sit here and call each other all kinds of names according to our entrenched positions, and don't even try to get the message across we'd quite like them to have a chat.

And if we do that, then we play into the hands of anybody who doesn't want to talk... of whatever side.

italiahorse · Aug 4, 2013

sky blue john said:
Sorry but my feelings now is to starve Sisu's cash flow which isn't going to happen if they are playing at the Ricoh !!!!

The Campaign is to starve their cash flow to get them back to Coventry. The Ricoh is Coventry.

Skybluepiglet · Aug 4, 2013

They have just had 3 months of closed season.
Do you really think it's a coincidence nothing was sorted in that period.

ccfcdan · Aug 4, 2013

Yep no more money for SISU from me. I've picked my away games and shall be attending 12 over the season to support the players. That is where my st is going this year.

sky blue john · Aug 4, 2013

Deleted member 5849 said:
There is.

Please enlighten ?
Because you might aswell just going to away games. This way your not supporting Sisu's actions but still get to see and support the team !!!!
If you think the actions will effect team rebuilding and wages why ?
Sisu can afford to spend 30-50 million on a stadium then they can afford to cover 2-3 million in wages each year !!!!

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 4, 2013

sky blue john said:
Please enlighten ?

I have in the past, all I get is a bunch of dog's abuse, so why should I waste my time writing it out again for more of the same?

longjohnskyblue · Aug 4, 2013

Sisu refuse to budge! How can you reason with a mindset like that?

ACL have a duty of care for the people of coventry. It is a given that if ever sisu/otium managed to get their hands on the ricoh, it is just a massive pit for them to sink their bad debt into and write it off! They have already done this once to the club, now they want an even bigger potential pit!

ACL by dumping the debt into the club, can therefore make all their other assets look good. I suspect the vast majority of their investors probably haven't even heard of coventry city yet alone give two hoots! They do however care about their investments, and by writing off the losses via CCFC Ltd (as they clearly have done) all of a sudden their balanbce sheet looks fantastic and will attract more investors!

Why can't people see them for what they are? They have made it bigger than the football club, they are trying to screw over every taxpayer in Coventry! At some point everyone must make a stand. Now is the time! SISU OUT NOPM

Nick · Aug 4, 2013

sky blue john said:
Please enlighten ?
Because you might aswell just going to away games. This way your not supporting Sisu's actions but still get to see and support the team !!!!
If you think the actions will effect team rebuilding and wages why ?
Sisu can afford to spend 30-50 million on a stadium then they can afford to cover 2-3 million in wages each year !!!!

They can't pay those wages because of fair play can they?

Skybluepiglet · Aug 4, 2013

sky blue john said:
Sisu can afford to spend 30-50 million on a stadium then they can afford to cover 2-3 million in wages each year !!!!

Exactly!!

torchomatic · Aug 4, 2013

ohitsaidwalker king power said:
I agree.. of course I want CCFC playing in Coventry... the thought of the Northampton thing makes me so angry... but for SISU to accuse ACL and others of intransigence, when Joy allegedly made the statement that the only way back is for ACL to hand over the keys to the RICOH.... makes me even more convinced of SISU's overall plan.
On this basis, regrettably I doubt we have a way forward, but if there is one.. I'm up for it.

Yes, allegedly. ML said that wasn't true. Both sides now need to sort stuff out for us lot, the ones that care. None of the other lot do.

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deanocity3 · Aug 4, 2013

Talk to each other about playing at the Ricoh - the campaign starts here
I thought we had already started it weeks ago,

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 4, 2013

This thread is not about who's to blame!

That is done to death and detracts from the main point.

Coventry should be in Coventry. Two sides can talk to each other if they choose.

The fans should be voicing their opinion that they would like them to talk to each other.

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 4, 2013

deanocity3 said:
Talk to each other about playing at the Ricoh - the campaign starts here
I thought we had already started it weeks ago,

It can start again

And again.

And again if needs be.

Skybluepiglet · Aug 4, 2013

Well didn't they see the march thru cov 2 weeks ago!!!

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 4, 2013

Skybluepiglet said:
Well didn't they see the march thru cov 2 weeks ago!!!

And you just leave it at that?

Ah well, I;ve done my bit, let's forget about it now?

Wm65 · Aug 4, 2013

The two parties detest each other - there is no trust and no way that that can have any kind of relationship- talking is done .

Either start from scratch with a new club at the ricoh going through the leagues as Newport did or give sisu the ground for a knockdown price - those are the only viable options.

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 4, 2013

Talking is never done.

This site proves that

Skybluepiglet · Aug 4, 2013

Talking Horseshit is never done as far as your concerned Northern!!

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 4, 2013

Skybluepiglet said:
Talking Horseshit is never done as far as your concerned Northern!!

The kind of constructivem, positive response I've come to know and love on this site!

Interesting you appear to think wanting the club back in Coventry is talking horseshit...

Flying Fokker · Aug 4, 2013

longjohnskyblue said:
Sisu refuse to budge! How can you reason with a mindset like that?

ACL have a duty of care for the people of coventry. It is a given that if ever sisu/otium managed to get their hands on the ricoh, it is just a massive pit for them to sink their bad debt into and write it off! They have already done this once to the club, now they want an even bigger potential pit!

ACL by dumping the debt into the club, can therefore make all their other assets look good. I suspect the vast majority of their investors probably haven't even heard of coventry city yet alone give two hoots! They do however care about their investments, and by writing off the losses via CCFC Ltd (as they clearly have done) all of a sudden their balanbce sheet looks fantastic and will attract more investors!

Why can't people see them for what they are? They have made it bigger than the football club, they are trying to screw over every taxpayer in Coventry! At some point everyone must make a stand. Now is the time! SISU OUT NOPM

A bit mixed on some of this. The supporters may well be in need of care but it is the civic responsibility of Councillors and CCC to be good stewards of the money. ACL's role is different.

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