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  • Start date Jun 27, 2013
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Joy Division

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2013
  • #106
Paxman II said:
But at what point do you stop protesting and accept you lost the fight? The war can continue in other ways that will not affect supporting the players and the team.. Surely you agree we need to get behind the team and support them and the manager to try and do well? Success breeds success and we need to look at things with at least some positivity. Constantly crying in your beer will not change anything. keep you glass half full not half empty Coventrites!
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Fair point, a certain degree of acceptance is inevitable in any fight that is lost. You can get behind the team as much as possible but when the manager is not being supplied with the tools to do a job that is expected of the fans he is bound to fail.
 

blueflint

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2013
  • #107
CraigSBA said:
we would have an all standing stadium lol
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yes at the recreation ground
 
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intercity

New Member
  • Jun 27, 2013
  • #108
Orange Ken will be getting his training kit made up with KD on his shorts shirt and jacket ready to sit on the bench again :jerkit::jerkit:
 

Joy Division

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2013
  • #109
blueflint said:
you are joking they would asset strip the ricoh as they have the football club we would be worse off then than we are now
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This touches on exactly why the club is fucked with SISU in charge. People seem to forget we are owned by a hedge fund, its absolutely mind crushingly crazy to think that a hedge fund owns a football club.
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2013
  • #110
chiefdave said:
Other clubs have had a preffered bidder named and then had to change that to an alternative why would that not apply to us? Surely if the sale to Otium can't be complted the club should be offered to the other parties who were interested not automatically liquidated?
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Perhaps this is why Otium have purchased assets from Ltd. What they are, who lnows, but u can be sure if ACL dont agree then the only thing left in Ltd and is liquidated would be the lease. AP Sisu, Otium, slippery gits the lot of them, they will always get the upper hand somehow.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2013
  • #111
If ACL wer'nt allowed to make a conditional bid ,how are SISU allowed to buy access to a couple of Rights but leave the lease separate .That doesn't sound right?:thinking about:
 
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williesdonkeykick

New Member
  • Jun 27, 2013
  • #112
Spot on paxman. Unfortunatley there will be negative comparisons to Steven pressley due to your optimism and positivity
Paxman II said:
But at what point do you stop protesting and accept you lost the fight? The war can continue in other ways that will not affect supporting the players and the team.. Surely you agree we need to get behind the team and support them and the manager to try and do well? Successbreeds success and we need to look at things with at least some positivity. Constantly crying in your beer will not change anything. keep you glass half full not half empty Coventrites!
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wingy

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  • Jun 27, 2013
  • #113
williesdonkeykick said:
Spot on paxman. Unfortunatley there will be negative comparisons to Steven pressley due to your optimism and positivity
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Pressley the new Thorn !!!!!
 
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SkyBlueSwiss

New Member
  • Jun 27, 2013
  • #114
Paxman II said:
But at what point do you stop protesting and accept you lost the fight? The war can continue in other ways that will not affect supporting the players and the team.. Surely you agree we need to get behind the team and support them and the manager to try and do well? Success breeds success and we need to look at things with at least some positivity. Constantly crying in your beer will not change anything. keep you glass half full not half empty Coventrites!
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No, totally do not agree.
You do what you have to do. Me, I think you and the others that accept defeat and therefore accept SISU as owners will truly regret it. We will have to wait and see.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2013
  • #115
Joy Division said:
What? people getting off their arses and trying to make a stand? Jesus.

Maybe its me being brought up listening to Public Enemy and you being brought up listening the fucking Killers or some shite
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Wooooooooooooooooo, PE!!!


Wish I could do Glasto, but can't wait to watch their set on TV. At least it won't be raining in my flat..
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2013
  • #116
The Reverend Skyblue said:
I totally agree Mr Grendel,and I actually gave you a like, you did'nt need to use the juvenile word again though.

We could well become best friends if we carry on like this
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Fuck off, he's my best mate and I aint sharing that bromance with anyone. Oh OK, you can have him on Wednesdays. As you seem to have already!
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2013
  • #117
RoboCCFC90 said:
Maybe you have this correct and I have my information incorrect it has to be said that my knowledge on the subject isn't brilliant.
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Remember the days when you didn't have to be a financial and legal expert to support city?!
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2013
  • #118
wingy said:
If ACL wer'nt allowed to make a conditional bid ,how are SISU allowed to buy access to a couple of Rights but leave the lease separate .That doesn't sound right?:thinking about:
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Whole thing stinks. SISU were the only ones who knew what was in ltd and they've been allowed to cherry pick which bits they want. None of the other bidders even knew for sure what they were buying.
 

Covcraig@bury

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2013
  • #119
covmark said:
Tough shit. No one wants sisu here but some of us aren't gonna cry like a bunch of drunk women
Get on with it for fecks sake, if not go and support Coventry United
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Spot on. Most people on here are in dream land and need to wake up and smell the coffee.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2013
  • #120
Gutted just Gutted
 

Joy Division

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2013
  • #121
Covcraig@bury said:
Spot on. Most people on here are in dream land and need to wake up and smell the coffee.
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Absolute total bollocks
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2013
  • #122
chiefdave said:
Remember the days when you didn't have to be a financial and legal expert to support city?!
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To be honest I have learnt more on this forum over the last three years then I did in school and college put together!
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2013
  • #123
RoboCCFC90 said:
To be honest I have learnt more on this forum over the last three years then I did in school and college put together!
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So you couldn't count or write before joining SBT?!?!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 27, 2013
  • #124
Nonleagueherewecome said:
So you couldn't count or write before joining SBT?!?!
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He's learned all about the Victorian tradition of cocksucking rent boys.
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2013
  • #125
Nonleagueherewecome said:
So you couldn't count or write before joining SBT?!?!
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I learnt that myself before I went to school
 
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valiant15

New Member
  • Jun 27, 2013
  • #126
Covcraig@bury said:
Spot on. Most people on here are in dream land and need to wake up and smell the coffee.
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Like who? You're talking out of your backside.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2013
  • #127
Joy Division said:
What makes you believe they will invest in the team? Just curious.
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their backing of thorn last summer and then robins

also they remain resolute in not running away from ccfc
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2013
  • #128
covcity4life said:
their backing of thorn last summer and then robins

also they remain resolute in not running away from ccfc
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You can't say that on here, they are after our blood and every first born child.
 

Joy Division

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2013
  • #129
covcity4life said:
their backing of thorn last summer and then robins

also they remain resolute in not running away from ccfc
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I'd be inclined to disagree, I'd say they helped get a squad together rather than invest in a competitive team
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2013
  • #130
Joy Division said:
I'd be inclined to disagree, I'd say they helped get a squad together rather than invest in a competitive team
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Whilst I partly agree with you, they did fund a large squad. Obviously it wasn't as competitive as we'd have liked, but they did invest. If they didn't there would have been no players at all, except David Bell of course.
 
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Buster

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2013
  • #131
covcity4life said:
their backing of thorn last summer and then robins

also they remain resolute in not running away from ccfc
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There trapped! Their missmanagement has meant that they have put in about 4 million a year to run the club which is in a far worse position than when they came in ! They must realise now that football and hedge fund atitudes are incompatible. Alas its to late .
Unfortunately the prospective purchasers , who have no real afinity to ccfc , also know this so are playing hardball . At this moment in time Tim Fishers backside must be twitching.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2013
  • #132
hill83 said:
Whilst I partly agree with you, they did fund a large squad. Obviously it wasn't as competitive as we'd have liked, but they did invest. If they didn't there would have been no players at all, except David Bell of course.
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What they actually did was sell two players then give a playing budget in line with FFP ,in other words what they are permitted to do I'd say the fans did their part last year too ,given the last five years and a relegation.Hows the packing going.
 

Joy Division

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2013
  • #133
hill83 said:
Whilst I partly agree with you, they did fund a large squad. Obviously it wasn't as competitive as we'd have liked, but they did invest. If they didn't there would have been no players at all, except David Bell of course.
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Looking at the players who left in the summer of 2012 a large proportion of the wage bill had been slashed, it was merely replacing the wage funding of the already decimated squad of the previous year (Westwood, Gunnarsson, Turner, King)
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2013
  • #134
wingy said:
What they actually did was sell two players then give a playing budget in line with FFP ,in other words what they are permitted to do I'd say the fans did their part last year too ,given the last five years and a relegation.Hows the packing going.
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True, still an investment though.
I'm pretty much done. I'm only moving about 150 metres away. Nice upgrade though.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2013
  • #135
Joy Division said:
Looking at the players who left in the summer of 2012 a large proportion of the wage bill had been slashed, it was merely replacing the wage funding of the already decimated squad of the previous year (Westwood, Gunnarsson, Turner, King)
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Techinically you are right. But this isn't magic money that appears from nowhere and the club isn't making any money. They are putting the bare minimum to survive in and it is all going to shit. Money is still being invested.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jun 28, 2013
  • #136
hill83 said:
Techinically you are right. But this isn't magic money that appears from nowhere and the club isn't making any money. They are putting the bare minimum to survive in and it is all going to shit. Money is still being invested.
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Also, the wage bill was bumped up by those players being brought into the club anyway.

Arguably the main fault of the owners was doing that and making the wage bill unsustainable in the first place, not cutting it back to what it should always have been.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2013
  • #137
Deleted member 5849 said:
Also, the wage bill was bumped up by those players being brought into the club anyway.

Arguably the main fault of the owners was doing that and making the wage bill unsustainable in the first place, not cutting it back to what it should always have been.
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Agreed - previous attempts to trim the squad were then reversed by bringing in new managers and a plethora of crap signings; Coleman, Boothroyd and Thorn, even Robins to a certain extent with some of the pointless loanees.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2013
  • #138
Deleted member 5849 said:
Also, the wage bill was bumped up by those players being brought into the club anyway.

Arguably the main fault of the owners was doing that and making the wage bill unsustainable in the first place, not cutting it back to what it should always have been.
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It all depends on how serious they are on FFP,last seasons on the basis we didn't get an embargo at least for exceeding the cap suggest a turnover of possibly £6-£6.5M. somewhere around breakeven i'd wager.

This Seasons has been Set at £2M. as there is very little left to sell ,If we're to play somewhere other than here ,Crowds will be half or less of the Ricoh total ,personally I think more like a third.

Ultimately turnover will be £4M. -£5M. @ RICOH or £2-£3M.elsewhere . Meaning Embargo very early into the season ,irrelevant If we're still in admin,or Player trading to exit It.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 28, 2013
  • #139
procdoc said:
I bet you're fucking delighted
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Hardly. Unlike the majority on here, I have never once been a fan of SISU.

Just because I don't join in with the hysterics, and because I also think that ACL are as much to blame, doesn't mean I am in any way a fan of SISU.
 
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