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  • Thread starter WestEndAgro
  • Start date May 12, 2023
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WestEndAgro

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #1
If we were to make the "Promised Land" surely we would be a major contender for a huge take over.
Doug may have just bought the golden ticket.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 12, 2023
  • #2
Well yeah there would be a hefty increase on the value as soon as play off money.
 

Torquay Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #3
Sisu would be taking us to court for their add ons
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #4
Is there a big history of people rushing to buy a club just because it’s been promoted to the PL? Struggling to think of one, not that I’ve paid much attention to what happens in the PL since our relegation. I can see why it would make the club more valuable and how that would benefit Doug though.
 
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mmttww

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #5
I don't think we're an attractive proposition. Training ground is poor for the Championship nevermind the PL, Academy is at a fairly grim sports centre, would arguably be the most likely of the promoted teams to go straight back down.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #6
I did laugh at MR's comment after Monday's game about Doug King thanking his lucky stars.
 

The Philosopher

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #7
What do we get for reaching playoffs?

Quarter of all ticket sale income across all 4 games is it? Home gates: Sunderland 45k Us & Boro 30k each. Luton 10k? TV money split? 115k fans.
 

Senior Vick from Alicante

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #8
Your bills go through the roof though, annual wage bill for Chelsea was £211 million, Arsenal £100 million and only going north from there, Leeds one of the lowest with £53 million, stadium rental costs will go up. Player well fare and infrastructure will have to go up as you have to invest there, bigger squads of players and staff especially the recruitment side of it, agents fees go higher. Its a massive leap to do it in a sustainable manner and one would think DK would need to get some investment partners. The promotion money would be eaten very quickly, imagine being Leeds owner knowing you have shelled out £53 million in wages, you can see why most of these teams cant afford to come down.
 

Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #9
Senior Vick from Alicante said:
Your bills go through the roof though, annual wage bill for Chelsea was £211 million, Arsenal £100 million and only going north from there, Leeds one of the lowest with £53 million, stadium rental costs will go up. Player well fare and infrastructure will have to go up as you have to invest there, bigger squads of players and staff especially the recruitment side of it, agents fees go higher. Its a massive leap to do it in a sustainable manner and one would think DK would need to get some investment partners. The promotion money would be eaten very quickly, imagine being Leeds owner knowing you have shelled out £53 million in wages, you can see why most of these teams cant afford to come down.
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I suspect we'd be nowhere near £53m wage bill in our first year, if we were to go up.
 
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Danceswithhorses

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  • May 12, 2023
  • #10
Skyblueweeman said:
I suspect we'd be nowhere near £53m wage bill in our first year, if we were to go up.
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Yeah staying up would be a near impossibility (without spending huge sums).
It might be better to cream off all the best division 1 players (maybe free championship players too), and see how it goes...at least we would be prepared if we were then relegated, and be in a much better financial position for another push.
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #11
There is still the stadium ownership situation though. I think until that is sorted until something more permanent we're unlikely to see another take over
 
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SkyBlueSam01

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #12
Im personally v happy we finally have an owner who clearly cares about us and appears open and honest...

Not sure why it's even crossing peoples minds that we should seek significant change already when its so easy to end up with owners who completely use their club
 

Matt smith

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #13
Danceswithhorses said:
Yeah staying up would be a near impossibility (without spending huge sums).
It might be better to cream off all the best division 1 players (maybe free championship players too), and see how it goes...at least we would be prepared if we were then relegated, and be in a much better financial position for another push.
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Sign the best league one players?

they’re not gonna cut the mustard in the prem are they
 
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CoventryUSA

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  • May 12, 2023
  • #14
I don't think Doug or anyone else would spend a fortune to try and survive the drop. So, Cov would be a prime candidate to head right back down. So, you overturn the roster with long-term players that will stick around in the Championship and help fuel the club into reaching yo-yo status before making another push to stay in the PL long term.

However, the broadcast revenues and parachute payments would provide significant sums to fund training ground, academy, scouting, and other club infrastructure improvements to set the club up for the next decade.
 
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Grendel

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  • May 12, 2023
  • #15
Senior Vick from Alicante said:
Your bills go through the roof though, annual wage bill for Chelsea was £211 million, Arsenal £100 million and only going north from there, Leeds one of the lowest with £53 million, stadium rental costs will go up. Player well fare and infrastructure will have to go up as you have to invest there, bigger squads of players and staff especially the recruitment side of it, agents fees go higher. Its a massive leap to do it in a sustainable manner and one would think DK would need to get some investment partners. The promotion money would be eaten very quickly, imagine being Leeds owner knowing you have shelled out £53 million in wages, you can see why most of these teams cant afford to come down.
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Where on earth are those figures from. Arsenal is £220 million
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #16
Leeds is £121 million
 

no_loyalty

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #17
Lowest wage bill is Brentford at £62M.
 
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Speedie's Head

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #18
I was reading today that Burnley lost 14 players on relegation and only 4 brought in a fee in return. I guess that was just off-loading the wages
 

Danceswithhorses

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #19
Matt smith said:
Sign the best league one players?

they’re not gonna cut the mustard in the prem are they
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It'd be almost impossible to stay up without massive finance (which we don't/won't have), so prepare for the worst ie relegation, and buy the best up and coming div 1 players we can, with decent Bosman/freebies.
Strengthen the club's finances for future years, and don't spend like twats and risk the club's future.
 
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the rumpo kid

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #20
Fuck it, let's just get back to league one ASAP !
 

WestEndAgro

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  • May 12, 2023
  • #21
What I'm kind of suggesting, is that Doug may not be in a position to propell the club forward financially, but could potentially sell up and have made a small fortune in a matter of months.
 
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Speedie's Head

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #22
WestEndAgro said:
What I'm kind of suggesting, is that Doug may not be in a position to propell the club forward financially, but could potentially sell up and have made a small fortune in a matter of months.
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He'd be daft not to really, it must have been his plan but it could happen earlier than he'd been anticipating.
 
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skyblu3sk

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #23
I agree on this, I don't think Dougs net worth would cut it in the premiership. In the championship it makes sense (just) but to stay up we either need to be very very lucky or invest heavily and hope we get the right players in!
 

slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #24
Torquay Sky Blue said:
Sisu would be taking us to court for their add ons.
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Yep we all know to quote toxic Tim sisu batter people in court, they’ve done a grand job going from a swanky Mayfair office employing over thirty to a comparable hovel somewhere else with a large reduction in staff.
WestEndAgro said:
What I'm kind of suggesting, is that Doug may not be in a position to propell the club forward financially, but could potentially sell up and have made a small fortune in a matter of months.
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We don’t really know what the Doug King back up is I’m certain he isn’t a lone wolf but I’m not really bothered to be honest, in four months as promised no star names were sold, he got rid of our toxic chairman on day one and sisu 100% gone soon after, he is putting good money into the training ground and room there to expand, got a deal at the cbs and no one or nothing else sharing, a number of players have had contract extensions.
He took the reins with the PL in mind, maybe if it happens this season we are a year early in what he expected, I’m sure he’s no lone wolf but wether or not he will have planned both eventualities spoke at length to MR.
To compare us with the likes of Arsenal or Chelsea wages wise is ridiculous but the Brentford wage bill of £62million is more realistic. Be interesting to know the wage bill of Brighton who buy well and sell big and are a comfortable top ten outfit.
 
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Hutch11

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #25
Danceswithhorses said:
It'd be almost impossible to stay up without massive finance (which we don't/won't have), so prepare for the worst ie relegation, and buy the best up and coming div 1 players we can, with decent Bosman/freebies.
Strengthen the club's finances for future years, and don't spend like twats and risk the club's future.
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The trouble with that is you'll get the moronic Robins out brigade when we're bottom of the league with no points after 10 games
 
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Old Warwickshire lad

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  • May 12, 2023
  • #26
Hutch11 said:
The trouble with that is you'll get the moronic Robins out brigade when we're bottom of the league with no points after 10 games
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Unfortunately you are 100% spot on. Many so called fans can’t see past the last 10 results.
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • May 12, 2023
  • #27
Hutch11 said:
The trouble with that is you'll get the moronic Robins out brigade when we're bottom of the league with no points after 10 games
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That's for certain. Robins would need to be promised the season no matter what up front.
 
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Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #28
Senior Vick from Alicante said:
Your bills go through the roof though, annual wage bill for Chelsea was £211 million, Arsenal £100 million and only going north from there, Leeds one of the lowest with £53 million, stadium rental costs will go up. Player well fare and infrastructure will have to go up as you have to invest there, bigger squads of players and staff especially the recruitment side of it, agents fees go higher. Its a massive leap to do it in a sustainable manner and one would think DK would need to get some investment partners. The promotion money would be eaten very quickly, imagine being Leeds owner knowing you have shelled out £53 million in wages, you can see why most of these teams cant afford to come down.
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Agree this idea promotion to Premier League just prints money for you is nonsense. Just look at some of the teams that have come down in recent years. They seem to have increased debts rather than reduce them.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • May 12, 2023
  • #29
Hutch11 said:
The trouble with that is you'll get the moronic Robins out brigade when we're bottom of the league with no points after 10 games
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Wouldn't even take ten games. I think two points in first five games would set them off.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2023
  • #30
Might be the time Ashley wants to step in, for better or worse.
 
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