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Match Thread Swansea City- Coventry City 21st March 17.15ko (18 Viewers)

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quinn1971

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  • Today at 2:04 PM
  • #141
skybluelee said:
I genuinely think 85 will do it. That means two of the following need to happen:

Ipswich18 from 9
Middlesbrough 16 from 8
Millwall 18 from 8

If you think we need 12 then the two of the following following needs to happen:

Ipswich 22 from 9 (7 wins and a draw)
Middlesbrough 20 from 8 (6 wins and 2 draws)
Millwall 22 from 8 (7 wins and 1 draw)

None are in exceptional from, all have to play each other, Middlesbrough have just failed to beat Charlton, Oxford, Leicester and Bristol C in consecutive home games, Ipswich's April looks hideous.

I could see one going on a run and taking the title off us if we fuck about but I simply don't see a world where we don't finish top 2.
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nobody thought we’d win 6 out of 6, confident We’ll do it but they’ll be a few more nervy moments yet
 
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quinn1971

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  • Today at 2:05 PM
  • #142
Ccfcisparks said:
How many have Ipswich got on their last run?

You do know to finish 3rd two teams have to finish above you.

Which out of Boro or Millwall is getting 89 points?
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never knew that thanks it’ll be tighter than some think
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 2:06 PM
  • #143
quinn1971 said:
never knew that thanks it’ll be tighter than some think
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Which out of Boro and Millwall is getting 89 points?
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Today at 2:09 PM
  • #144
jto123 said:
I think Wright, Rudoni and Thomas missing makes this v tough. Hoping we can shithouse to a point or win, but a defeat feels likely.
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Oh god. One defeat and the doom mongers are out.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 2:09 PM
  • #145
fernandopartridge said:
Oh god. One defeat and the doom mongers are out.
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He is a constant doom monger. I've never noticed him before but hes been rife recently.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Today at 2:10 PM
  • #146
Ccfcisparks said:
Which out of Boro and Millwall is getting 89 points
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they both could ?
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 2:11 PM
  • #147
quinn1971 said:
they both could ?
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The max that Milwall can get is 92 and thats with games against Boro and Ipswich.

If they win those then Boro need to go faultless to get to 89. They have Ipswich.

Its extremely unlikely and just silly.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Today at 2:14 PM
  • #148
Ccfcisparks said:
The max that Milwall can get is 92 and thats with games against Boro and Ipswich.

If they win those then Boro need to go faultless to get to 89. They have Ipswich.

Its extremely unlikely and just silly.
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Didn’t we just win 6 out of 6. you’re right probably unlikely but until it’s mathematically done not getting carried away,
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 2:14 PM
  • #149
If Ipswich win their game in hand then they are on 71 and can reach 95 if they beat Ipswich.

If Milwall beat both of them then Milwall can reach 92.

That would mean Boro could get max 91, if they beat Ipswich.]

It would take 2 teams going near faultless to get 89.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 2:14 PM
  • #150
quinn1971 said:
Didn’t we just win 6 out of 6. you’re right probably unlikely but until it’s mathematically done not getting carried away
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How are they going to win 8 out of 8 when they're all playing each other
 
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quinn1971

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  • Today at 2:16 PM
  • #151
Ccfcisparks said:
How are they going to win 8 out of 8 when they're all playing each other
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now who’s being silly
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 2:16 PM
  • #152
quinn1971 said:
now who’s being silly
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You are.

I take it maths isnt your strong suit.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Today at 2:19 PM
  • #153
Ccfcisparks said:
You are.

I take it maths isnt your strong suit.
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they don’t need to win 8 out of 8 if Mboro and Ipswich beat milwall they can both get to 89 points even though they still have to play each other. dont need to be good at maths to understand that, shall I put it simpler for you ?
 
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quinn1971

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  • Today at 2:20 PM
  • #154
Anyway, we’ve got to to get to 88 first
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 2:20 PM
  • #155
quinn1971 said:
they don’t need to win 8 out of 8 if Mboro and Ipswich beat milwall they can both get to 89 points even though they still have to play each other. dont need to be good at maths to understand that, shall I put it simpler for you ?
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Yes by going faultless. Like I said. Thanks for proving my point.
 

Otis

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  • Today at 2:21 PM
  • #156
quinn1971 said:
Anyway, we’ve got to to get to 88 first
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Hopefully we can do that by Saturday evening (yeah, maths ISN'T my strong point)
 

Lamps

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  • Today at 2:25 PM
  • #157
skybluelee said:
I genuinely think 85 will do it. That means two of the following need to happen:

Ipswich18 from 9
Middlesbrough 16 from 8
Millwall 18 from 8

If you think we need 12 then the two of the following following needs to happen:

Ipswich 22 from 9 (7 wins and a draw)
Middlesbrough 20 from 8 (6 wins and 2 draws)
Millwall 22 from 8 (7 wins and 1 draw)

None are in exceptional from, all have to play each other, Middlesbrough have just failed to beat Charlton, Oxford, Leicester and Bristol C in consecutive home games, Ipswich's April looks hideous.

I could see one going on a run and taking the title off us if we fuck about but I simply don't see a world where we don't finish top 2.
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They have to play each other again. That's 3 games...2 each... where a draw is a right bonus for us. No draws? 6 points for one, 3 points for another leaving 0 points for the 3rd team.....or 3 points each for all 3 sides from 2 games.

So in reality unless Middlesbrough draw both games with Millwall and Ipswich would be 2 points each from their 2 games and then the 3 sides win every other game. It isn't happening. If anything the 3 more wins for us could well be more than enough for promotion.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Today at 2:27 PM
  • #158
Ccfcisparks said:
Yes by going faultless. Like I said. Thanks for proving my point.
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They don’t need to be faultless ? all I’ve said is we can still come 3rd, which we can, relax mate and enjoy it
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 2:28 PM
  • #159
Lamps said:
They have to play each other again. That's 3 games...2 each... where a draw is a right bonus for us. No draws? 6 points for one, 3 points for another leaving 0 points for the 3rd team.....or 3 points each for all 3 sides from 2 games.

So in reality unless Middlesbrough draw both games with Millwall and Ipswich would be 2 points each from their 2 games and then the 3 sides win every other game. It isn't happening. If anything the 3 more wins for us could well be more than enough for promotion.
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Yes exactly my point.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Today at 2:29 PM
  • #160
Otis said:
Hopefully we can do that by Saturday evening (yeah, maths ISN'T my strong point)
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Careful he’ll be along and try and force his argument on you, don’t think he realises that other people on here can be right. not just him
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 2:29 PM
  • #161
quinn1971 said:
Careful he’ll be along and try and force his argument on you, don’t think he realises that other people on here can be right. not just him
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Charity bet that two of the 3 dont make 89 points?
 
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quinn1971

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  • Today at 2:39 PM
  • #162
Ccfcisparks said:
Charity bet that two of the 3 dont make 89 points?
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Ok I’ll have £200 they don’t aswell not what I said nice try though
 

StrettoBoy

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  • Today at 2:44 PM
  • #163
We are clearly strong favourites for at least second place but this isn’t done yet.

If we lost away to Swansea and Hull and drew at home with Derby - all possible results - then we would have one point from four games. We might not still be top then and the players may start to get the jitters, as would the fans.

Don’t get me wrong, I think we will do better than that in the next three games and I do believe we will be promoted. However a short bad run like that, coupled with two of the other promotion-chasing teams going on the sort of good runs they have done before, and it will start getting very tight.

Six points from the next three matches would put us on 83 points with five matches to go and I will start to feel more comfortable
 
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Lamps

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  • Today at 2:45 PM
  • #164
Ccfcisparks said:
Charity bet that two of the 3 dont make 89 points?
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The most probable from the remaining games is one of them mid to high 80's, one low to mid 80's and the other about 80 points.

Even better is that the pressure is on all 3 sides. Win every game or fall behind the others. Millwall have to play both of them away in their next 2 games, and if they don't manage to win at least 1 of them the race would be down to 3 sides.....and they still would have to play each other.

I believe many haven't grasped how important the 3 of them playing each other in what is a quarter of their remaining games. Advantage to Ipswich presently because of the game in hand.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 2:48 PM
  • #165
Lamps said:
The most probable from the remaining games is one of them mid to high 80's, one low to mid 80's and the other about 80 points.

Even better is that the pressure is on all 3 sides. Win every game or fall behind the others. Millwall have to play both of them away in their next 2 games, and if they don't manage to win at least 1 of them the race would be down to 3 sides.....and they still would have to play each other.

I believe many haven't grasped how important the 3 of them playing each other in what is a quarter of their remaining games. Advantage to Ipswich presently because of the game in hand.
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Exactly, either all 3 of them are dropping 4 points or 2 of them at least 3 points due to those games.

Ipswich don’t have the luxury of a sheffield wednesday game to go either
 
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clint van damme

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  • Today at 2:53 PM
  • #166
Lamps said:
The most probable from the remaining games is one of them mid to high 80's, one low to mid 80's and the other about 80 points.

Even better is that the pressure is on all 3 sides. Win every game or fall behind the others. Millwall have to play both of them away in their next 2 games, and if they don't manage to win at least 1 of them the race would be down to 3 sides.....and they still would have to play each other.

I believe many haven't grasped how important the 3 of them playing each other in what is a quarter of their remaining games. Advantage to Ipswich presently because of the game in hand.
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I disagree sbout Ipswich, though appreciate you're basing that on them having a game in hand.

Their April set of fixtures is horrendous, both for congestion, and the difficulty of some of the games they have, I expect them to miss out.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 2:55 PM
  • #167
clint van damme said:
I disagree sbout Ipswich, though appreciate you're basing that on them having a game in hand.

Their April set of fixtures is horrendous, both for congestion, and the difficulty of some of the games they have, I expect them to miss out.
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some expect them to win every game
 
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quinn1971

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  • Today at 3:14 PM
  • #168
Lamps said:
The most probable from the remaining games is one of them mid to high 80's, one low to mid 80's and the other about 80 points.

Even better is that the pressure is on all 3 sides. Win every game or fall behind the others. Millwall have to play both of them away in their next 2 games, and if they don't manage to win at least 1 of them the race would be down to 3 sides.....and they still would have to play each other.

I believe many haven't grasped how important the 3 of them playing each other in what is a quarter of their remaining games. Advantage to Ipswich presently because of the game in hand.
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Doesn’t matter what happens , we need to get enough points to get it done, but we’ve had our wobble, we’ll be fine 94 points
 

skybluelee

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  • Today at 3:19 PM
  • #169
Lamps said:
The most probable from the remaining games is one of them mid to high 80's, one low to mid 80's and the other about 80 points.

Even better is that the pressure is on all 3 sides. Win every game or fall behind the others. Millwall have to play both of them away in their next 2 games, and if they don't manage to win at least 1 of them the race would be down to 3 sides.....and they still would have to play each other.

I believe many haven't grasped how important the 3 of them playing each other in what is a quarter of their remaining games. Advantage to Ipswich presently because of the game in hand.
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Ipswich with the advantage? - possibly, but their April run of fixtures looks hideous. If they average over 2ppg from that lot then fair play to them. Don't see it though.
 

Boicey

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  • Today at 3:26 PM
  • #170
It's a bit sad that our set piece threat has largely evaporated, it was based mainly around Thomas and even he was on a lean spell.
It's surprising that MVE, JDS, Lati, Kitch, Woolfy, the Tank and Grimes don't really score goals including around set pieces, could do with them chipping in a few.
Hopefully Simms can quickly find form and provide a real threat at Swansea.
 
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jto123

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  • Today at 3:43 PM
  • #171
fernandopartridge said:
Oh god. One defeat and the doom mongers are out.
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Umm…not really. Just stating that I think away at Swansea who have been good at home will be a tricky match.
 
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jto123

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  • Today at 3:51 PM
  • #172
StrettoBoy said:
We are clearly strong favourites for at least second place but this isn’t done yet.

If we lost away to Swansea and Hull and drew at home with Derby - all possible results - then we would have one point from four games. We might not still be top then and the players may start to get the jitters, as would the fans.

Don’t get me wrong, I think we will do better than that in the next three games and I do believe we will be promoted. However a short bad run like that, coupled with two of the other promotion-chasing teams going on the sort of good runs they have done before, and it will start getting very tight.

Six points from the next three matches would put us on 83 points with five matches to go and I will start to feel more comfortable
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Largely agree with this. We’ll likely get promoted, but not impossible that we muck up. Somewhere in between planning the promotion party/saying we couldn’t lose and deciding it’s all going to go wrong.
 
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Lamps

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  • Today at 3:53 PM
  • #173
clint van damme said:
I disagree sbout Ipswich, though appreciate you're basing that on them having a game in hand.

Their April set of fixtures is horrendous, both for congestion, and the difficulty of some of the games they have, I expect them to miss out.
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Basing it both on game in hand and current form.

Last 6

Middlesbrough W2 D3 L1 9.points

Ipswich W4 D2 14 points

Millwall W2 L2 12 points.

Ipswich 14 league games so far this year. W9 D3 L2. That's 2.14 points a game. 1 more game then they get a break.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Today at 3:54 PM
  • #174
Ccfcisparks said:
some expect them to win every game
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Have a day off, youre the only one who’s said that.
 

Lamps

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  • Today at 4:02 PM
  • #175
skybluelee said:
Ipswich with the advantage? - possibly, but their April run of fixtures looks hideous. If they average over 2ppg from that lot then fair play to them. Don't see it though.
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As in the post above Ipswich have averaged over 2 points a game since the start of the year. Their tails are up and they have the squad to go with the confidence.

Not too bothered myself. 2nd, 3rd and 4th have to play each other twice. Whoever comes out of these games with 2 wins will probably finish 2nd.....or 1st if everything goes against us.
 
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