Grendel
Well-Known Member
Easy to say impossible to prove -- relegation will be Thorn's achievement. Then we can get rid of him. One things for sure this bloke will never be a manager again.
If those managers had been in charge of us in our current plight, i think they would be taking us down too
Easy to say impossible to prove -- relegation will be Thorn's achievement. Then we can get rid of him. One things for sure this bloke will never be a manager again.
Just think he has that fighting spirit for sure.
Nice theory on SISU but then what would they do? Try and sabotage the team again if it looks like we will be promoted back to the championship?Hi Fellas,
I have an Idea, that Sisu/Finance, is setting its stall out to play 1st division Football next season, the Arithmatic might just add up better, and based upon our gates, life managing a 1st division club might suit them just fine, and they might reach break even point or even show a proffit.
This is not something that may just occurred have to them, looking at the investment so far this year, this plan could have been in place before the season started.
They may have the idea that a successful 1st division side, would generate more income from gate reciepts, than a struggling championship side, and if we were top of the first division, instead of bottom of the Champioship, who amongst us would POO POO their theory.
AS for Andy Thorn, well I'm bored with seeing managers come and go at this Football club, without making an iota of difference, and who would we get in his place, that would work under the constraints that he has had to?.
If Thorn got the sack, i could see oggy and the academy coaches, Rioch and Carsley stepping up, as a low cost alternative, we just wouldn't pay for an established man.
"Post a load of rubish" well lets wait and see!
Respect to all posters
Tank top..
Agreed. Think we do have them. Keogh, Deegan, McPake, Wood, Juke. Unfortunately like you say, McPake and Deegan seem forever injured.
I am already relishing the prospect of actually winning a few games and achieving mid table mediocrity next season in league 1.The owners aren't good enough
The board aren't good enough
The manager isn't good enough
The squad isn't good enough
The team isn't good enough
The support isn't good enough
Get over it, we're proper f***ed and there is only one way we're going. The quicker we all accept it, the more freedom we'll experience and we can enjoy the performances and points that we do get, but a change at any level I fear including board, will not be enough to save us this season. I also think we will lose what talent we have. won't see any investment and will soon find our new level struggling in the league below - it's just simply what we do!
The owners aren't good enough
The board aren't good enough
The manager isn't good enough
The squad isn't good enough
The team isn't good enough
The support isn't good enough
Get over it, we're proper f***ed and there is only one way we're going. The quicker we all accept it, the more freedom we'll experience and we can enjoy the performances and points that we do get, but a change at any level I fear including board, will not be enough to save us this season. I also think we will lose what talent we have. won't see any investment and will soon find our new level struggling in the league below - it's just simply what we do!
Fergie or Wenger would struggle to work with this current squad and these owners, Sisu have done everything on the cheap and that is why we are where we are now...This includes hiring AT who many think now is out of his depth but instead of looking at AT to blame lets ask KD if he thinks hiring AT is still a master stroke!!!!!!!
just for 1 moment put yourself in AT's place,
you've previously identified important players, dann, fox, westwood, gunnarsson, etc., etc., etc., etc.,
they've signed, & then the carpet/rug is continually pulled from under you,
you ask to progress the situation,
there's an old phrase about 'an organ grinder & a monkey',
get real SISU
We could use some of that Newcastle work ethic and spirit in our side at the moment.
just for 1 moment put yourself in AT's place,
you've previously identified important players, dann, fox, westwood, gunnarsson, etc., etc., etc., etc.,
they've signed, & then the carpet/rug is continually pulled from under you,
you ask to progress the situation,
there's an old phrase about 'an organ grinder & a monkey',
get real SISU
What's ridiculous, is changing the manager all the time.
The problem isn't Thorn, it's the muppets who are running the club.
What's ridiculous, is changing the manager all the time.
The problem isn't Thorn, it's the muppets who are running the club.
sisu are probably smirking @ the moment that the heat has been deflected away from themselves,
yeah wasn't us, the manager just couldn't cut it,
AT may have his limitations,
but then it took SIR ALEX 13 goalkeeping attempts between schmeichel & van der saar,
will it take sisu 13 managers ?
Right so if Peter Reid was manager and not Thorn you would still be so charitable? I doubt it. What a joke. Irony is the only reason Thorn is in charge is because of the muppets who run the club - otherwise we would have a real manager and some hope.
Do you really think the majority of fans are not on Thorn's back because of some other reason other than football ???
Hi Fellas,
I have an Idea, that Sisu/Finance, is setting its stall out to play 1st division Football next season, the Arithmatic might just add up better, and based upon our gates, life managing a 1st division club might suit them just fine, and they might reach break even point or even show a proffit.
This is not something that may just occurred have to them, looking at the investment so far this year, this plan could have been in place before the season started.
They may have the idea that a successful 1st division side, would generate more income from gate reciepts, than a struggling championship side, and if we were top of the first division, instead of bottom of the Champioship, who amongst us would POO POO their theory.
AS for Andy Thorn, well I'm bored with seeing managers come and go at this Football club, without making an iota of difference, and who would we get in his place, that would work under the constraints that he has had to?.
If Thorn got the sack, i could see oggy and the academy coaches, Rioch and Carsley stepping up, as a low cost alternative, we just wouldn't pay for an established man.
"Post a load of rubish" well lets wait and see!
Respect to all posters
Tank top..
Can things get any worse though nonleague?
I am not one of these who go around calling for a managers head at every opportunity and don't do it, but unfortunatly I honestly think for the first time I can remember something has to give and it has to be AT.
The thing is, in the past with inept managers they never got this long into a losing streak before they were given the boot.
This time it is differant because all the outrage is towards sisu and so it should be without a question of doubt, but AT has gone as far as he is going to go with these players and that is down.
This is not his fault as he is not a manager, a damn good scout maybe but manager no, he was thrown in at the deep end but he could have said no I don't want the job, he took it on and so he should be taking some blame as well and should do the honerable thing and step down in my opinion.
Ok some may not agree fair enough but in my opinion no-one twisted his arm to take the job, he knew we have no money he knew sisu are full of lies as he has been here while they have been in charge and he knew what he was doing.
Was thinking of starting a thread on this the other day Rob ,would it be better to admit it ,take the pressure out of the situation ,off the manager if there is any ,rest the kids as and when we need to ,while developing them ,keep them out of sight of other clubs ,and prepare for next year ,instead of the pretence we're living under.
As I remember it, it was heavy fan lobbying that secured AT the job.
Right so if Peter Reid was manager and not Thorn you would still be so charitable? I doubt it. What a joke. Irony is the only reason Thorn is in charge is because of the muppets who run the club - otherwise we would have a real manager and some hope.
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