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Surely SISU are to blame for this? (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Feb 12, 2013
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Flying Fokker

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  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #1
How on earth can SISU write a contract that means that Robins is even talking to these clubs? It must be big money if they let him go.

If by some miracle he turns them down we should get him signed up for a longer period.
 

deanocity3

New Member
  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #2
Flying Fokker said:
How on earth can SISU write a contract that means that Robins is even talking to these clubs? It must be big money if they let him go.

If by some miracle he turns them down we should get him signed up for a longer period.
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A longer period,what would have happened if he turned out to be crap for us
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #3
He's talking to them as he will no doubt have had a whisper that they are interested. Don't be naive he has forced the issue. The club rejected the offer.
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #4
Oh FFS! here we go again, its SISU's fault!!!!

They BLOCKED the approach but Robins and his team requested to see Huddersfield. They cannot do much about a manager who wants out!!!

I am not a fan of SISU but you cannot stick this on them!
 
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The CableGuy

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #5
Welcome to the reality of League 1.

Good players? Good manager? Prepare for them to be noticed, and taken, by Championship clubs who earn almost £4 million per season more than us (and that's just TV money).
 
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Tonylinc

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #6
Grendel said:
He's talking to them as he will no doubt have had a whisper that they are interested. Don't be naive he has forced the issue. The club rejected the offer.
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As we understand the situation; Yes, they did reject the first offer BUT what have they done since? Have they increased his wage? Have they offered more assistance in terms of transfer finance? These are questions which need to be asked.
 

Otis

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  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #7
Covstu said:
Oh FFS! here we go again, its SISU's fault!!!!

They BLOCKED the approach but Robins and his team requested to see Huddersfield. They cannot do much about a manager who wants out!!!

I am not a fan of SISU but you cannot stick this on them!
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Unless of course Robins was promised something from the board that was not forthcoming.
 

Colonel Mustard

New Member
  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #8
Flying Fokker said:
How on earth can SISU write a contract that means that Robins is even talking to these clubs?
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For all we know it might be standard practice ... it's just that our managers haven't been good enough in the past to warrant an approach. And if such clauses do exist, it is not unreasonable to assume there is a quid pro quo in there, making it easier and less costly to sack the manager, say.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #9
Tonylinc said:
As we understand the situation; Yes, they did reject the first offer BUT what have they done since? Have they increased his wage? Have they offered more assistance in terms of transfer finance? These are questions which need to be asked.
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We are restricted by FFP rules so the transfer policy is dictated to us in this league. Given our meagre crowds they have worked hard to get players in. Leon Clark isn't on £1,000 a week. Adams came from a premier club and another loan secured today.

No excuses. He wants a pay rise so off he goes.
 
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Chipfat

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #10
If and when it settles down no doubt both sides will have a story to tell about where the blame sits. Something has gone on for Robins to change his mind so quickly about the club. This maybe as simple as double your money or maybe the club have told Robins that some promises cant be given as first thought. Either way i wish him well if he goes and life goes on being a Cov fan,did anyone expect anything different............
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #11
Flying Fokker said:
How on earth can SISU write a contract that means that Robins is even talking to these clubs? It must be big money if they let him go.

If by some miracle he turns them down we should get him signed up for a longer period.
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He would have requested for it to be written into his contract and it is probably commonplace in football.

He won't turn them down as he is the one who has forced the move through.
 
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6 Generations

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  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #12
Grendel said:
He's talking to them as he will no doubt have had a whisper that they are interested. Don't be naive he has forced the issue. The club rejected the offer.
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Yes, the club turned the original compensation bid down but not immediately, and took time deliberating.

Now if i had been in Mark Robin's position, i would have found this unacceptable.

As an obviously head strong individual, he has taken exception and questioned exactly how many 'pieces of silver' these bastards would actually accept.
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #13
deanocity3 said:
A longer period,what would have happened if he turned out to be crap for us
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We know he is good now. It would be good to sign him up for longer/ increase the release clause at the same time.
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #14
6 Generations said:
Yes, the club turned the original compensation bid down but not immediately, and took time deliberating.

Now if i had been in Mark Robin's position, i would have found this unacceptable.

As an obviously head strong individual, he has taken exception and questioned exactly how many 'pieces of silver' these bastards would actually accept.
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Fucking hell.
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #15
Otis said:
Unless of course Robins was promised something from the board that was not forthcoming.
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I think one thing we know about Robins is that if there was an issue with what was promised, he certainly isn't shy about coming forward and raising it like at Barnsley.
 
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6 Generations

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  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #16
lordsummerisle said:
Fucking hell.
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What the fuck are you saying??
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #17
6 Generations said:
Yes, the club turned the original compensation bid down but not immediately, and took time deliberating.

Now if i had been in Mark Robin's position, i would have found this unacceptable.

As an obviously head strong individual, he has taken exception and questioned exactly how many 'pieces of silver' these bastards would actually accept.
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Or he heard that Hudderfield were interested and has forced the move through. The board rejected the original offer, but they came back with the amount that met the release clause in his contract.

The club have tried to keep him, yet still can't do anything right in the eye's of some. He is the one who forced the move through and where people's anger should be directed.
 

Otis

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  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #18
6 Generations said:
Yes, the club turned the original compensation bid down but not immediately, and took time deliberating.

Now if i had been in Mark Robin's position, i would have found this unacceptable.

As an obviously head strong individual, he has taken exception and questioned exactly how many 'pieces of silver' these bastards would actually accept.
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CWR are saying that the club turned down an approach yesterday. Today Huddersfield came back with a money offer and our board went away to think about it and then came back and turned that down too.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #19
lordsummerisle said:
Fucking hell.
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hahaha, much better put than my response!
 

Covstu

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  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #20
Otis said:
CWR are saying that the club turned down an approach yesterday. Today Huddersfield came back with a money offer and our board went away to think about it and then came back and turned that down too.
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yes but its all SISU's fault apparently!!!:facepalm::facepalm:
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #21
Well, Robins has been rattled by something, surely. He is not one to be messed around. But what a shit if he ends up being manager of Huddersfield for heavens sake.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #22
6 Generations said:
Yes, the club turned the original compensation bid down but not immediately, and took time deliberating.

Now if i had been in Mark Robin's position, i would have found this unacceptable.

As an obviously head strong individual, he has taken exception and questioned exactly how many 'pieces of silver' these bastards would actually accept.
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Probably the most stupid comment ever seen on this forum.
 
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6 Generations

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  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #23
Otis said:
CWR are saying that the club turned down an approach yesterday. Today Huddersfield came back with a money offer and our board went away to think about it and then came back and turned that down too.
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During the 5-30pm news,according to BBC Coventry and Warwickshire, the club did indeed discuss the possibility of accepting a bid for our current manager.

Surely, a true vote of confidence in Mark Robins was to not even consider discussing it.

Do we actually know if his contract contains any such release clause?
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #24
Fuck me. I read some rubbish on here - admittedly usually before I press SUBMIT - but this is absolute bollocks. How anyone can pin this on SISU is beyond me.

6 Generations said:
Yes, the club turned the original compensation bid down but not immediately, and took time deliberating.

Now if i had been in Mark Robin's position, i would have found this unacceptable.

As an obviously head strong individual, he has taken exception and questioned exactly how many 'pieces of silver' these bastards would actually accept.
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #25
Otis said:
CWR are saying that the club turned down an approach yesterday. Today Huddersfield came back with a money offer and our board went away to think about it and then came back and turned that down too.
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I do question why they had to go away and think about it though. Why not just immediately turn down the money offer too?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #26
Flying Fokker said:
Well, Robins has been rattled by something, surely. He is not one to be messed around.
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More money and managing at a higher level?
 

Colonel Mustard

New Member
  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #27
Otis said:
I do question why they had to go away and think about it though. Why not just immediately turn down the money offer too?
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One would think there is an obligation for all board members to discuss that type of offer, even if they turn out to be unanimous in saying no.
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #28
Sick Boy said:
More money and managing at a higher level?
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If he goes it is because SISU lack imagination and he will find it better working with a backer who has the money.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #29
Why, surely it has to be discussed?

Otis said:
I do question why they had to go away and think about it though. Why not just immediately turn down the money offer too?
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Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #30
plus one person cannot make that 'immediate' response in any organisation!?
 
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6 Generations

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  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #31
Grendel said:
Probably the most stupid comment ever seen on this forum.
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I have been a member of this forum for many years and rarely post. Read what i said in the post. It might be 'precious' of Mr Robins to react in that way. I do not state this a fact, merely as a possibility.

It is a point of view to which i am entitled .

How can MR suddenly walk away, having pledged himself to our club.

Do not insult me, while you continue to post supportive propaganda for the faceless entity which has been solely responsible for the demise of my club for the last 5 years.
 

cloughie

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #32
Otis said:
I do question why they had to go away and think about it though. Why not just immediately turn down the money offer too?
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yes but some would say that they wouldn't possibly think about the short term money, no one could possibly accuse sisu of ever doing that :facepalm:
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #33
6 Generations said:
I have been a member of this forum for many years and rarely post. Read what i said in the post. It might be 'precious' of Mr Robins to react in that way. I do not state this a fact, merely as a possibility.

It is a point of view to which i am entitled .

How can MR suddenly walk away, having pledged himself to our club.

Do not insult me, while you continue to post supportive propaganda for the faceless entity which has been solely responsible for the demise of my club for the last 5 years.
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nope, I think he is just stating the fact that it isn't SISU's fault that Robins wants out!!
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #34
6 Generations said:
I have been a member of this forum for many years and rarely post. Read what i said in the post. It might be 'precious' of Mr Robins to react in that way. I do not state this a fact, merely as a possibility.

It is a point of view to which i am entitled .

How can MR suddenly walk away, having pledged himself to our club.

Do not insult me, while you continue to post supportive propaganda for the faceless entity which has been solely responsible for the demise of my club for the last 5 years.
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Fucking hell.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2013
  • #35
But why does he want out so suddenly?


That is the puzzle. He seemed really happy and said he was going nowhere.

He only left Barnsley after falling out with the board, so it is rational to think he may have fallen out with the board here too. If so, over what?

We cannot say categorically that it is all down to Robins and by the same token, we also cannot say Sisu are blameless. We simply do not know what has gone on at the club
 
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