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hill83

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #176
David O'Day said:
we tell you this every time
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It’ll be this bit that did it mate
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #177
David O'Day said:
oh change the subject because you are in the wrong

I can tell you for a fact there are no issues with the design of the stadium or that no work would needed to be undertaken to allow the stadium to have city fans in all four stands. That is confirmed from someone involved with the SAG and the councils sign off of it.

All I said was what has changed and you had a hissy fit
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This has reminded me that one of the design features mentioned previously was the roller shutter doors which split the concourse. Having looked back, these are included in the list of dilapidations prepared during the Wasps administration process.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #178
hill83 said:
It’ll be this bit that did it mate
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it's true though
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #179
MalcSB said:
This has reminded ma that one of the design features mentioned previously was the roller shutter doors which split the concourse. Having looked back, these are included in the list of dilapidations prepared during the Wasps administration process.
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and that would of been a fair answer

Thank you
 

hill83

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #180
David O'Day said:
it's true though
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Irrelevant. It’ll be that bit that did it. Say that to someone in real life and expect them to say something back.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #181
Balli001 said:
He has a point though doesnt he? He asked a valid question, you ignored it or didnt answer.
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I didn’t it’s been answered before and I answered it again at which he pointed out what had been said before
When you go into discussions with that attitude don’t expect to build relationship or any kind of influence
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #182
hill83 said:
Irrelevant. It’ll be that bit that did it. Say that to someone in real life and expect them to say something back.
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Normally I wouldn’t bite but it’s like a bloody merry go round
He won’t like what the safety certificate guy was saying about capacity and how it doesn’t matter how many seats you have it’s how many people you can get out in an emergency that dictates the capacity
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #183
Today on should they shag or should they fight, we have SkyBluePete and David O'Day, vote now for what you think they should do, tune in after the break for the results
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #184
Sky Blue Pete said:
I didn’t it’s been answered before and I answered it again at which he pointed out what had been said before
When you go into discussions with that attitude don’t expect to build relationship or any kind of influence
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It really hasn't been answered before though, at the last forum the club seemed to think there wasn't anyway to divide that concourse.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #185
Sky Blue Pete said:
Normally I wouldn’t bite but it’s like a bloody merry go round
He won’t like what the safety certificate guy was saying about capacity and how it doesn’t matter how many seats you have it’s how many people you can get out in an emergency that dictates the capacity
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The safety certificate is for the full capacity of the stadium, once again I can confirm that as a fact as I am friends who actually signs that off. If the club couldn't safely evacuate 32,000 people they wouldn't of been allowed to sell that many tickets for the Womens international.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #186
David O'Day said:
The safety certificate is for the full capacity of the stadium, once again I can confirm that as a fact as I am friends who actually signs that off. If the club couldn't safely evacuate 32,000 people they wouldn't of been allowed to sell that many tickets for the Womens international.
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Me too and I spoke with him on Thursday
When were there that many in the ground for the womens internationals
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #187
Sky Blue Pete said:
Me too and I spoke with him on Thursday
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The guy from the council who actually issues the safety certificate? If so tell him Dave says hi and what time we meeting in the pub?
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #188
David O'Day said:
The guy from the council who actually issues the safety certificate? If so tell him Dave says hi and what time we meeting in the pub?
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The way you’ve kicked off this morning I assume you are already in it
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #189
David O'Day said:
The guy from the council who actually issues the safety certificate? If so tell him Dave says hi and what time we meeting in the pub?
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Martin Garvin and Andrew Walster
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #190
@David O'Day what does he say about why we don’t sell all tickets available
 

Irish Sky Blue

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #191
It does seem strange that a stadium built to hold 32k for men’s football matches can’t handle that capacity. I suppose it ultimately comes down to morons who think it’s okay to use football and our club for anti social and violent activities. It does seem that the problems with people attacking the Preston coaches a few years ago and with a few idiots at the Derby game more recently have put the kibosh on City fans being behind that goal for the foreseeable future.
I still think the segregation is over the top when you compare it to other grounds. I also don’t think I have heard that the save evacuation of people from that end is the issue causing the limiting of capacity being stated before, but I might have missed it?
Are their a lack of exits at that end? You would think in a real emergency the vehicle access doors in the corner would be opened.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #192
Irish Sky Blue said:
It does seem strange that a stadium built to hold 32k for men’s football matches can’t handle that capacity. I suppose it ultimately comes down to morons who think it’s okay to use football and our club for anti social and violent activities. It does seem that the problems with people attacking the Preston coaches a few years ago and with a few idiots at the Derby game more recently have put the kibosh on City fans being behind that goal for the foreseeable future.
I still think the segregation is over the top when you compare it to other grounds. I also don’t think I have heard that the save evacuation of people from that end is the issue causing the limiting of capacity being stated before, but I might have missed it?
Are their a lack of exits at that end? You would think in a real emergency the vehicle access doors in the corner would be opened.
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Club and council very very concerned about backs of blocks singers corner hence safe standing
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #193
Sky Blue Pete said:
@David O'Day what does he say about why we don’t sell all tickets available
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Segregation which is a different matter to how many people a ground is safely allowed to admit.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #194
Saddlebrains said:
Today on should they shag or should they fight, we have SkyBluePete and David O'Day, vote now for what you think they should do, tune in after the break for the results
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Should they shag or should they fight now?
If they fight, there will be trouble
And if they shag it will be double
So come on and let me know……
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #195
Irish Sky Blue said:
It does seem strange that a stadium built to hold 32k for men’s football matches can’t handle that capacity. I suppose it ultimately comes down to morons who think it’s okay to use football and our club for anti social and violent activities. It does seem that the problems with people attacking the Preston coaches a few years ago and with a few idiots at the Derby game more recently have put the kibosh on City fans being behind that goal for the foreseeable future.
I still think the segregation is over the top when you compare it to other grounds. I also don’t think I have heard that the save evacuation of people from that end is the issue causing the limiting of capacity being stated before, but I might have missed it?
Are their a lack of exits at that end? You would think in a real emergency the vehicle access doors in the corner would be opened.
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It can safely hold 32k, Pete is right when he says safety certificates are based on how many people can safely be evacuated from a stadium and you can safely get 32k out of the CBS in an emergency.

Segregation is a different matter but doesn't effect how many people can be evacuated
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #196
David O'Day said:
Segregation which is a different matter to how many people a ground is safely allowed to admit.
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Well that’s all part of the discussion

It was martin Garvin that talked about safe capacity now I’ve checked
 
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Levship20

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #197
Sky Blue Pete said:
Club and council very very concerned about backs of blocks singers corner hence safe standing
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Do we now know what our break even crowd figure is? At one time I was sure we needed 16000 through the gate before we started making a profit?
 
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MalcSB

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #198
David O'Day said:
It can safely hold 32k, Pete is right when he says safety certificates are based on how many people can safely be evacuated from a stadium and you can safely get 32k out of the CBS in an emergency.

Segregation is a different matter
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Which may come back to the “dilapidation” of the roller shutter doors - the estimated costs associated were £200k - assuming the segregation rollers are what is meant in the report. If that s the reason, I don’t understand why the club wouldn’t say so though.
 

Irish Sky Blue

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #199
Sky Blue Pete said:
Club and council very very concerned about backs of blocks singers corner hence safe standing
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It would be good if the club through Boddy or the safety officer actually came out and gave the whole rationale for the limiting of capacity at that end of the ground. It does seem at the moment a bit piecemeal. If people can see the whole picture and the good reasons why decisions are made, the whole issue could be put to bed rather than have the frustration and annoyance as at the end of last season when we had a ground with thousands of empty seats and thousands of Coventry fans who wanted to buy them but weren’t allowed.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #200
Sky Blue Pete said:
Well that’s all part of the discussion

It was martin Garvin that talked about safe capacity now I’ve checked
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Yeah and the safe capacity as is 32k, segregation doesn't effect the ability to get people out in an emergency. If segregation barriers are blocking someone from the nearest and safest exit point them something has gone wrong.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #201
MalcSB said:
Which may come back to the “dilapidation” of the roller shutter doors - the estimated costs associated were £200k - assuming the segregation rollers are what is meant in the report. If that s the reason, I don’t understand why the club wouldn’t say so though.
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Yeah and I think that would be a fair answer but i'd then follow up by asking if the roller shutters are broken how did they work against boro?
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #202
Irish Sky Blue said:
It would be good if the club through Boddy or the safety officer actually came out and gave the whole rationale for the limiting of capacity at that end of the ground. It does seem at the moment a bit piecemeal. If people can see the whole picture and the good reasons why decisions are made, the whole issue could be put to bed rather than have the frustration and annoyance as at the end of last season when we had a ground with thousands of empty seats and thousands of Coventry fans who wanted to buy them but weren’t allowed.
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This is the point, looking through the brief notes on here it seems they refuysed to answer someone's question on teh figures behind their justification for larger segregation
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #203
Irish Sky Blue said:
It would be good if the club through Boddy or the safety officer actually came out and gave the whole rationale for the limiting of capacity at that end of the ground. It does seem at the moment a bit piecemeal. If people can see the whole picture and the good reasons why decisions are made, the whole issue could be put to bed rather than have the frustration and annoyance as at the end of last season when we had a ground with thousands of empty seats and thousands of Coventry fans who wanted to buy them but weren’t allowed.
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I really do think they need to explain the rationale when you can see scenes like this at games liek United vs Leeds where there is a real threat of trouble

 

usskyblue

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #204
It’s all a bit fucking bizarre Pete especially the semi final first leg, when our fans were segregated from.. *checks notes*

..our fuckinfans

Has a statement ever officially been made as to the reasoning behind segregation in that corner?
 
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Skybluedownunder

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #205
Saddlebrains said:
Today on should they shag or should they fight, we have SkyBluePete and David O'Day, vote now for what you think they should do, tune in after the break for the results
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David ain’t got a thrust in him… he’d be the taker


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David O'Day

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #206
usskyblue said:
It’s all a bit fucking bizarre Pete especially the semi final first leg, when our fans were segregated from.. *checks notes*

..our fuckinfans

Has a statement ever officially been made as to the reasoning behind segregation in that corner?
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That was weird, the excuse of they didn't want sideways movement from 15 and 14 to the away stand was nonse as it's easier to move through an empty block than a full one and there is a fence.

I do suspect peopel thought 13 is in the away stand
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #207
David O'Day said:
It can safely hold 32k, Pete is right when he says safety certificates are based on how many people can safely be evacuated from a stadium and you can safely get 32k out of the CBS in an emergency.

Segregation is a different matter but doesn't effect how many people can be evacuated
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That’s interesting I may go back to Dave or even Andrew to clarify

The reason they’ve left the ends in that area is to limit the numbers in those specific blocks

Very concerned at an incident and significant injury
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #208
Levship20 said:
Do we now know what our break even crowd figure is? At one time I was sure we needed 16000 through the gate before we started making a profit?
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34500
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #209
Skybluedownunder said:
David ain’t got a thrust in him… he’d be the taker


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Homophobic as well as c**t Skippy?

You'd be all over my onlyfans account of I had one
 

Skybluedownunder

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #210
David O'Day said:
Homophobic as well as c**t Skippy?

You'd be all over my onlyfans account of I had one
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How is that homophobic you melt?

I’m saying you would definitely be a shit shag regardless of the gender. The question was shag or fight.

P.S I’m English


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