Queues outside the turnstiles were pretty mad yesterday. Got there earlier than usual (about 20 minutes before kickoff) and only just made it in on time. Queues over by the Anecdote blocking the entire pathway and at times snaking into the car park…I know it’s a sellout crowd but hard to believe this was how it was designed to go.
Thousands and some on hereWhy would anyone leave it until 20 minutes before kick off (when a 30,000 crowd was expected) and expect to get in quickly?
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Some see it as a chance to have a few drinks that is interrupted by 22 blokes having a kick about. Same as at concerts with people coming in 10 minutes and later after the start with a tray of beers.Why would anyone leave it until 20 minutes before kick off (when a 30,000 crowd was expected) and expect to get in quickly?
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I'm 5 inches on a good day.Why don’t we do a quick poll on here? I have 1710
Why don’t we do a quick poll on here? I have 1710
Ah hello there BooshMorning 91. Enjoyed any new artists recently or still in your Fleur East era?
Ticket scanning on non turnstile type gates is a big no no ,check out Wembley Euro reports. This leads to potential crowd surge with those with our tickets, it happens at the arena.Towards the end of Sisu’s reign the issue seemed to be sorted. They opened up the disabled gates and had stewards scanning tickets with handheld devices. Worked brilliantly for a short period.
It’s not just a club problem, harry styles was chaos trying to get in. And I don’t think that can be blamed on his fans not wanting to leave the pub early enough somehow.
how if you are still only letting them in 1 by 1?Ticket scanning on non turnstile type gates is a big no no ,check out Wembley Euro reports. This leads to potential crowd surge with those with our tickets, it happens at the arena.
You can't control gates without an adequate separation set up, open gates with ticket scanning and a person controlling that ingress wouldn't be deemed an appropriate measure.how if you are still only letting them in 1 by 1?
We get the train across so the choice was to arrive an hour and a half before kick off or 30 minutes.I know they do, but why? Beer is available inside for those that can’t manage 30 minutes without one.
Doors help when you have low numbers or defects and want to lock down areas, in and out is possibly to allow suitable circulation flowWhy do the toilets have to have doors and an entrance and an exit? Health and safety?
Doors help when you have low numbers or defects and want to lock down areas, in and out is possibly to allow circulation flowWhy do the toilets have to have doors and an entrance and an exit? Health and safety?
Towards the end of Sisu’s reign the issue seemed to be sorted. They opened up the disabled gates and had stewards scanning tickets with handheld devices. Worked brilliantly for a short period.
It’s not just a club problem, harry styles was chaos trying to get in. And I don’t think that can be blamed on his fans not wanting to leave the pub early enough somehow.
Doors help when you have low numbers or defects and want to lock down areas, in and out is possibly to allow circulationWhy do the toilets have to have doors and an entrance and an exit? Health and safety?
Towards the end of Sisu’s reign the issue seemed to be sorted. They opened up the disabled gates and had stewards scanning tickets with handheld devices. Worked brilliantly for a short period.
It’s not just a club problem, harry styles was chaos trying to get in. And I don’t think that can be blamed on his fans not wanting to leave the pub early enough somehow.
Hi Pete,who is attending from the Arena this evening?Next forum date
Any questions - need to let chair have them before 11 January.
I’ll summarise questions on here when I send them
but it is in no real way different to what happens nowYou can't control gates without an adequate separation set up, open gates with ticket scanning and a person controlling that ingress wouldn't be deemed an appropriate measure.
We have turnstiles that only allow one entry per cycle, or they can be locked to restrict tailgating and surge.but it is in no real way different to what happens now
It’s tomorrowDoors help when you have low numbers or defects and want to lock down areas, in and out is possibly to allow circulation
Hi Pete,who is attending from the Arena this evening?
Thanks
Andy
but it is still scan and admit much like a hand scannerWe have turnstiles that only allow one entry per cycle, or they can be locked to restrict tailgating and surge.
A lot of the issue is people turning up latebut it is still scan and admit much like a hand scanner
people are stopped by a steward before the turnstile and they go 1 by 1 to the turnstile which if you substituted teh turnstile would still be admitting 1 at a time
the current system is not fit for purpose, it's not people turning up late as the chaos is starting earlier and earlier. There were people reporting issues 45 to 50 minutes before kick off on saturday and it got so bad that the security checks had to be suspended
That’s really good. Thank youSummarised questions
Forum questions
Opening of the whole ground - aims, plans under new COO. What plans are there to maximise home attendance? What are the clubs plans for the away end at CBS?
What plans are there for organising queuing around entering blocks 14 to 33? Especially the lower number turnstiles?
Block 2-4 has no access - why is this? Customers are having to enter through family zone blocks
What plans are there, if any, to enable junior and senior season tickets to be upgraded to an adult ticket without having to pay full
Price? Or indeed a re-sell process?
What is the reason for only making one block at a time available for purchase for home games?
What is the clubs expectation on allowing an adult friend to use an adult season ticket where the owner is unable to attend?
Are there any plans to sell the balcony seating at a cheaper price? Linked with executive boxes and premium prices - how’s it gone, early plans for 24-25?
Given the record season ticket numbers and the number of games moved from Saturday at 3pm do the club have any plans to maintain their value?
New COO - travel to the arena by bus train plans?
How are negotiations progressing for a longer lease at cbs?
What is the performance directors role?
Accident waiting to happen to the underpass into the shopping centre after the game. The lighting is improved. Can the curbs be removed? Any other safety considerations being considered, moving the temporary fence to widen the area would help.
I may be an outlier, but I tend to leave the casino 10-15 minutes before kick off.but it is still scan and admit much like a hand scanner
unless they are new turnstiles you can tailgate them and the only stopping this is action from a steward. i have seen it happen in the past
people are stopped by a steward before the turnstile and they go 1 by 1 to the turnstile which if you substituted teh turnstile would still be admitting 1 at a time
the current system is not fit for purpose, it's not people turning up late as the chaos is starting earlier and earlier. There were people reporting issues 45 to 50 minutes before kick off on saturday and it got so bad that the security checks had to be suspended
it's not a lot of the issue, as was said issues are happening earlier and earlierA lot of the issue is people turning up late
It’s not the only issue
Yep turnstiles nearer the north stand are much quicker to the east stand and closer to block 16 entrancesI may be an outlier, but I tend to leave the casino 10-15 minutes before kick off.
Haven't missed the rendition of WLADITT all season.
In at the nearest turnstile and then round to Block 25.
It's the turnstiles ability to stop a large crowd surge, the gate doesn't offer that same protection, it happened two fixtures ago when fans forced their way into accessible gat that was opened for a wheelchair user. There are a host of reasons that delays entry, all being looked at. Some are cost prohibitive, as with any capital project.but it is still scan and admit much like a hand scanner
unless they are new turnstiles you can tailgate them and the only stopping this is action from a steward. i have seen it happen in the past
people are stopped by a steward before the turnstile and they go 1 by 1 to the turnstile which if you substituted teh turnstile would still be admitting 1 at a time
the current system is not fit for purpose, it's not people turning up late as the chaos is starting earlier and earlier. There were people reporting issues 45 to 50 minutes before kick off on saturday and it got so bad that the security checks had to be suspended
A lot of the issue is people turning up late
It’s not the only issue
Turnstiles nominally allow around 660 person per hour,add ticket/scanning issues,persons not joining back of queues, late walk ups. The searching should have been done before the turnstile entrance point. Refreshments are closed at least 30 minutes prior to KO.People are not late, people are turning up half hour before kick off and struggling to get in for kick off due to lack of turnstiles and slow staff. Unless the plan is to make it difficult, so more turn up early and they can make more money on refreshments.
Don't forget, many people have prior commitments, I left work at 11, drove home from Birmingham, shower, changed, got to the stadium at 12, and greeted with a half hour queue. It's a shambles.
How long would you think it takes to get 14000 into a stand?People are not late, people are turning up half hour before kick off and struggling to get in for kick off due to lack of turnstiles and slow staff. Unless the plan is to make it difficult, so more turn up early and they can make more money on refreshments.
Don't forget, many people have prior commitments, I left work at 11, drove home from Birmingham, shower, changed, got to the stadium at 12, and greeted with a half hour queue. It's a shambles.
So for 14000 people how many turnstiles are you looking to open and are they all open?Turnstiles nominally allow around 660 person per hour,add ticket/scanning issues,persons not joining back of queues, late walk ups. The searching should have been done before the turnstile entrance point. Refreshments are closed at least 30 minutes prior to KO.
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