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Evo1883

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #71
DannyThomas_1981 said:
It's funny how these debates go around.

Earlier this season there was a fairly impassioned debate about how the only important factor in a striker's performance was goals.

Now when one of our strikers has a handy scoring record per minutes played - it's not about goals any more.

Let's just get behind the lads and enjoy the run-in. As I see it all of the players who are featuring every week, both starting and off the bench are making real contributions to our promotion charge. Not sure why there is any debate at this time about our players not being good enough.

For what it's worth, Max has made an amazing adjustment from non League to L2 and now to L1. He certainly doesn't look out of place to me at this level. And if you factor in that very serious injury it's a brilliant feel good story for Max and for us.
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I do believe goals per minute can be used as ive used them but it has to be used correctly.

The case between godden and Ponticelli would be an example of this

It's also why I rarely give a manager the same level of respect if they have a 50% win ratio after 20 games as opposed to over 150 games
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #72
Konjik is another cult player whose ability was below the adulation
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #73
DannyThomas_1981 said:
It's funny how these debates go around.

Earlier this season there was a fairly impassioned debate about how the only important factor in a striker's performance was goals.

Now when one of our strikers has a handy scoring record per minutes played - it's not about goals any more.

Let's just get behind the lads and enjoy the run-in. As I see it all of the players who are featuring every week, both starting and off the bench are making real contributions to our promotion charge. Not sure why there is any debate at this time about our players not being good enough.

For what it's worth, Max has made an amazing adjustment from non League to L2 and now to L1. He certainly doesn't look out of place to me at this level. And if you factor in that very serious injury it's a brilliant feel good story for Max and for us.
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He’s got 6 assists in his career I think
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #74
Grendel said:
Konjik is another cult player whose ability was below the adulation
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Breen was always better
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #75
Grendel said:
Konjik is another cult player whose ability was below the adulation
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'Cult heroes' often are players who were pretty ordinary in their ability but endeared themselves to the fans in one way or another. Biamou has done that by hitting screamers and taking selfies. Don't really see the gain in emphasising his lack of all round talent
 
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Evo1883

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #76
Brighton Sky Blue said:
'Cult heroes' often are players who were pretty ordinary in their ability but endeared themselves to the fans in one way or another. Biamou has done that by hitting screamers and taking selfies. Don't really see the gain in emphasising his lack of all round talent
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I remember when some fans were calling for Ryan Haynes to be played left wing over Jacob Murphy.

This isn't an isolated incident
 
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DannyThomas_1981

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #77
Evo1883 said:
I do believe goals per minute can be used as ive used them but it has to be used correctly.

The case between godden and Ponticelli would be an example of this
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It's all about different opinions Evo and I respect your opinion. I just see Max as a striker who has different attributes to others with the ability to be a real game changer. He's proven this before. Just as our midfielders all contribute and pose different questions, Max has the ability to ask different questions of defences. His goal at Peterboro this season was outstanding as an example. We need game changers and in this team we're fortunate to have a number of players who can change games.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #78
Brighton Sky Blue said:
'Cult heroes' often are players who were pretty ordinary in their ability but endeared themselves to the fans in one way or another. Biamou has done that by hitting screamers and taking selfies. Don't really see the gain in emphasising his lack of all round talent
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I don’t but when people over blow his contribution it’s not a fair reflection is it
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #79
Thing is Max has scored 11 this season from 9 starts he is joint top scorer in this team.
Who knows how many more he would have got if he had been fit all season.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #80
DannyThomas_1981 said:
It's all about different opinions Evo and I respect your opinion. I just see Max as a striker who has different attributes to others with the ability to be a real game changer. He's proven this before. Just as our midfielders all contribute and pose different questions, Max has the ability to ask different questions of defences. His goal at Peterboro this season was outstanding as an example. We need game changers and in this team we're fortunate to have a number of players who can change games.
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Rubbish
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #81
letsallsingtogether said:
Thing is Max has scored 11 this season from 9 starts he is joint top scorer in this team.
Who knows how many more he would have got if he had been fit all season.
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Why do you quote goals off the bench and then only include games he starts it’s just odd
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #82
DannyThomas_1981 said:
It's all about different opinions Evo and I respect your opinion. I just see Max as a striker who has different attributes to others with the ability to be a real game changer. He's proven this before. Just as our midfielders all contribute and pose different questions, Max has the ability to ask different questions of defences. His goal at Peterboro this season was outstanding as an example. We need game changers and in this team we're fortunate to have a number of players who can change games.
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I don't completely disagree with you tbh, just differ in opinion on his overall ability maybe
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #83
Grendel said:
Ponticelli - goal every 106 minutes
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Yes but he's only played 106 mins. Lol

Hardly a large enough sample size.
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #84
I didn't want to argue I just couldn't not say something when it was said that he's our greatest ever free signing...
Which he clearly isn't
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #85
Grendel said:
I don’t but when people over blow his contribution it’s not a fair reflection is it
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Well no it isn't but there's a medium I think between hyping him up and saying how rank average he is. He joined us from non-league relatively late and it's clear that League 1 is his ceiling but he can and does contribute more than some donkeys we've had in this league.
 

alfielloyd

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #86
we all support the mighty sky blues so we will celebrate goals scored by any player wearing sky blue but godden is by far our most accomplished striker, if we get promoted it will be down to the squad but in the forward area godden will make the critical difference.
 
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letsallsingtogether

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #87
Evo1883 said:
Not really as we would have won 3-2 without them over the 2 legs..

But I'm not arguing that tbh, his league form for us is extremely underwhelming since his arrival.

It's 8 in 59

Kevin Kyle often touted as being absolutely shite scored 5 in 50
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But would we have won without his goal with started off the landslide.
 

DannyThomas_1981

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #88
Grendel said:
Rubbish
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Not entirely sure why you are like this and no interest in debating with you to be honest my friend Grendel.

Like the majority I am enjoying this season and another fantastic win today.

I also appreciate what the players are doing for this club vs. trying to talk down certain players.
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #89
letsallsingtogether said:
But would we have won without his goal with started off the landslide.
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Who knows buddy, il say probably not
 

harvey098

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #90
Grendel said:
So when you say class act it meant what?
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The oxford dictionary definition I suppose;

class act
  1. INFORMAL
    a person or thing displaying impressive and stylish excellence.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #91
Evo1883 said:
I remember when some fans were calling for Ryan Haynes to be played left wing over Jacob Murphy.

This isn't an isolated incident
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Homegrown players have had that effect on fans for ages just look at Ponti-though in Max's case it's because of the screamers and the selfies
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #92
Again.. I like him.. Lol.

Dont know if I've already said it
 
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Evo1883

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #93
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Homegrown players have had that effect on fans for ages just look at Ponti-though in Max's case it's because of the screamers and the selfies
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Max is better than Ponticelli, we can agree on that mate
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #94
Londonccfcfan said:
Yes but he's only played 106 mins. Lol

Hardly a large enough sample size.
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he must have played close to 700 he scored 6 goals
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #95
pusbccfc said:
The bloke was playing Sunday league football in Paris a couple of years before joining us.

He could fire us into the Championship after helping fire us into League 1. Superb.
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Few people are quiet tonight on here

C’Mon Max !!!
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #96
harvey098 said:
The oxford dictionary definition I suppose;

class act
  1. INFORMAL
    a person or thing displaying impressive and stylish excellence.
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Not him then
 

cc84cov

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #97
Grendel said:
he must have played close to 700 he scored 6 goals
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G please my friend it’s coming close to the time I expect you to say “do you know what he’s certainly playing his part’ at least ??? I’ll back you all day when your right mate but you have to admit he’s doing what is needed
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #98
I don't normally pipe up about people's opinions on players.. . It happened the other day when somebody said Jordan Henderson was better than Paul Scholes... I just couldn't not say anything it was so ludicrous
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #99
Evo1883 said:
Max is better than Ponticelli, we can agree on that mate
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Yup. Max basically had his own goal of the season contest in L2 and he's hit some more crackers in L1. His all round game and general talent is pretty ordinary but think you can see why he has the status he does
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #100
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yup. Max basically had his own goal of the season contest in L2 and he's hit some more crackers in L1. His all round game and general talent is pretty ordinary but think you can see why he has the status he does
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A fitting summary
 

harvey098

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #101
Grendel said:
Not him then
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There are players I don’t really rate, I don’t feel the need to constantly slate them. I don’t get why you’d go out of your way to be negative about a player that’s just scored a goal on a day to send us joint top. Are you really that bored?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #102
Grendel said:
A fitting summary
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Fair play G
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #103
harvey098 said:
There are players I don’t really rate, I don’t feel the need to constantly slate them. I don’t get why you’d go out of your way to be negative about a player that’s just scored a goal on a day to send us joint top. Are you really that bored?
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I oddly am slating no one and am aligned to more people than you whose football knowledge is greater than yours
 

alfielloyd

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #104
Grendel said:
Konjik is another cult player whose ability was below the adulation
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great song, but very ordinary player.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Feb 15, 2020
  • #105
Gordan Strachan looked at Paul telfer the same way our supporters look at biamou... That's the best way to put this
 
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