Sundays Remembrance arm bands (1 Viewer)

sw88 · Nov 10, 2014

Haven't seen anything mentioned on here (unless it was on the match thread), but what were people's thoughts on the Remembrance Sunday arm bands our players wore on Sunday, rather than having poppies embroidered onto the shirts like most other teams do (and I think Worcester managed to do)?

I didn't realise until listening to Stuart Linnell on the way home that some players even took them off at Half Time!!!

For me, that's slightly disrespectful. What would the players have done if it was a captains armband they were wearing? They couldn't dispose of that?

That said, I was slightly disappointed with the whole thought behind the armband. OK, we are struggling to get away tops for fans (until quite recently I understand), but surely Puma would have agreed to do 22 shirts for the players as a one off? Surely that would have looked a lot better presentation wise, and also a but more in line with other teams.

Havent seen any official line on this either, but would be interested to know the reasons behind it (I certainly hope it wasn't cost).

AndreasB · Nov 11, 2014

It will undoubtedly be SISUs fault.

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olderskyblue · Nov 11, 2014

I thought it was bad form. The fact Worcester (and most every other team) managed to do it and we didn't shows a complete lack of class from CCFC.

I'd like to know who made that decision. Any ideas AndreasB?

letsallsingtogether · Nov 11, 2014

AndreasB said:
It will undoubtedly be SISUs fault.

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No it was yours.

Who else is to blame even Worcester could manage it FFS, completely embarrassing. fucking black armband with a 2p Poppy stuck on it by the ticket office staff during their tea break.

Fucking Amateurs.

Otis · Nov 11, 2014

Our players took the armbands off because they apparently kept slipping off their arms.

AndreasB · Nov 11, 2014

There is no story here - its just as despicable to try and make one up because you hate SISU so much.

letsallsingtogether · Nov 11, 2014

AndreasB said:
There is no story here - its just as despicable to try and make one up because you hate SISU so much.

Of course there isn't that is why it was mentioned on the Radio and even noticed on National TV.

AndreasB · Nov 11, 2014

letsallsingtogether said:
Of course there isn't that is why it was mentioned on the Radio and even noticed on National TV.

there has been talk of little else since Sunday.

Hobo · Nov 11, 2014

AndreasB said:
It will undoubtedly be SISUs fault.

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I think it is your fault...is that better?

AndreasB · Nov 11, 2014

Hobo said:
I think it is your fault...is that better?

I remember the days when wearing a poppy was personal choice - now its a fucking industry of who can wear the biggest one.

jimmyhillsfanclub · Nov 11, 2014

AndreasB said:
I remember the days when wearing a poppy was personal choice - now its a fucking industry of who can wear the biggest one.

Aye....true enough.

...Its political correctness gone mad.

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Covstu · Nov 11, 2014

Personally dont care on this one, they wore armbands instead of putting it on their shirt. They paid their respects, for me that suffices.

SIR ERNIE · Nov 11, 2014

AndreasB said:
I remember the days when wearing a poppy was personal choice - now its a fucking industry of who can wear the biggest one.

shame on you.

Skyblueweeman · Nov 11, 2014

Sat here at work with a poppy in my suit jacket, I'm proud to display an ounce of thanks to those who died in many battles for the world we live in today.

BUT...it really doesn't f*&king matter whether we had a poppy on our chest or an armband with a poppy on does it? There was some form of mark of respect by the club/players. It really shouldn't matter how we paid our respects...the fact it is that we did.

There's bloody more important things to be picky at.

WM

AndreasB · Nov 11, 2014

SIR ERNIE said:
shame on you.

Daily Mail reader alert

jimmyhillsfanclub · Nov 11, 2014

SIR ERNIE said:
shame on you.

......See....Its political correctness gone mad !!:wave:

Warwickhunt · Nov 11, 2014

sw88 said:
Haven't seen anything mentioned on here (unless it was on the match thread), but what were people's thoughts on the Remembrance Sunday arm bands our players wore on Sunday, rather than having poppies embroidered onto the shirts like most other teams do (and I think Worcester managed to do)?

I didn't realise until listening to Stuart Linnell on the way home that some players even took them off at Half Time!!!

For me, that's slightly disrespectful. What would the players have done if it was a captains armband they were wearing? They couldn't dispose of that?

That said, I was slightly disappointed with the whole thought behind the armband. OK, we are struggling to get away tops for fans (until quite recently I understand), but surely Puma would have agreed to do 22 shirts for the players as a one off? Surely that would have looked a lot better presentation wise, and also a but more in line with other teams.

Havent seen any official line on this either, but would be interested to know the reasons behind it (I certainly hope it wasn't cost).

Perhaps we are behind in payinf PUMA Invoices so they told us to do one

Hobo · Nov 11, 2014

AndreasB said:
I remember the days when wearing a poppy was personal choice - now its a fucking industry of who can wear the biggest one.

Dont bring sex and appendages into it! I can also remember a time when attending a football match to support your local team was voluntary....now it is an exercise in blind patriotism and a competition to be the most loyal fan who never criticises the owners.

SIR ERNIE · Nov 11, 2014

AndreasB said:
Daily Mail reader alert

correct

AndreasB · Nov 11, 2014

Hobo said:
Dont bring sex and appendages into it! I can also remember a time when attending a football match to support your local team was voluntary....now it is an exercise in blind patriotism and a competition to be the most loyal fan who never criticises the owners.

I dont see anyone forced to go do you?

Skyblueweeman · Nov 11, 2014

Hobo said:
Dont bring sex and appendages into it! I can also remember a time when attending a football match to support your local team was voluntary....now it is an exercise in blind patriotism and a competition to be the most loyal fan who never criticises the owners.

Everyone criticises the owners.

Some just choose to criticise the other parties responsible for this overall mess.

Hobo · Nov 11, 2014

AndreasB said:
I dont see anyone forced to go do you?

No in fact, some get criticised for attending cup games?

AndreasB · Nov 11, 2014

Hobo said:
No in fact, some get criticised for attending cup games?

eh? what rotter is doing that?

sw88 · Nov 11, 2014

AndreasB said:
There is no story here - its just as despicable to try and make one up because you hate SISU so much.

There was no agenda behind me posing the Question AndreasB. Just wondered what people's view was that's all. Yes, it was probably predictable that it would turn anti SISU but it certainly wasn't my intention (just look at most other threads on here and the way they divert quickly)

Hobo · Nov 11, 2014

AndreasB said:
eh? what rotter is doing that?

Its not a rotter, it is a lot on here who complain when fans turn out for games like Crewe and Arsenal. They are just glory hunters? My take it is people who want to see a successful club who demand a certain level of performance and endeavour. They choose to re attend when they think progress is happening or a corner has been turned. We as a club have rarely capitalised on those moments.

Players have a job to do...part of that is keeping bums on seats and pulling punters through the door. That is why some end up at The likes of Manchester United and Liverpool, some end up drifting around the lower leagues as freebies. Coventry City has been an easy touch for far too long on and off the pitch.

we must have one of the biggest dormant fan bases in the league....it is down to shoddy work practises and terrible ownership (from SISU and people before them).

AndreasB · Nov 11, 2014

Hobo said:
Its not a rotter, it is a lot on here who complain when fans turn out for games like Crewe and Arsenal. They are just glory hunters? My take it is people who want to see a successful club who demand a certain level of performance and endeavour. They choose to re attend when they think progress is happening or a corner has been turned. We as a club have rarely capitalised on those moments.

Players have a job to do...part of that is keeping bums on seats and pulling punters through the door. That is why some end up at The likes of Manchester United and Liverpool, some end up drifting around the lower leagues as freebies. Coventry City has been an easy touch for far too long on and off the pitch.

we must have one of the biggest dormant fan bases in the league....it is down to shoddy work practises and terrible ownership (from SISU and people before them).

And thats fine - no one expects gates of 25k in this league with the standard of opposition. However, dropping from 27k to 7k in the space of 2 games(which we won) is just bizarre and frankly embarrasing.

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 11, 2014

sw88 said:
There was no agenda behind me posing the Question AndreasB. Just wondered what people's view was that's all. Yes, it was probably predictable that it would turn anti SISU but it certainly wasn't my intention (just look at most other threads on here and the way they divert quickly)

OK, I'll take it as read...

Have to say I always feel uncomfortable once things are ordered. Nowadays, I might give some money but not wear a poppy, as much because I kind of agree there's a certain poppy fascism. And that, to me, takes away from the spirit in which such days should be approached.

Memorials, memories should be because people want to remember things. I can have my own view about what's right and wrong to remember, but it's not really my right to impose it on anyone else. I can welcome people choosing to remember and commemorate (not celebrate) and to me, such things lose value when they're forced upon people.

What about the other days of the year? Don't people deserve attention then? It seems to me that often using one day is a way to excuse forgetting the rest of the year.

So... in football, the embroidered poppy shirts seem, to me, to be slightly crass and in bad taste. To some, memories and charitable donations can be a public thing, but to others they can be private and understated. The uber-hype of football nowadays clashes with that... to me. I don't think footballers should be forced to 'care' any more than anyone else, they should be allowed to wear their remembrance, or not, as they please without fear of judgement, either way.

Hobo · Nov 11, 2014

I went to Sundays Remembrance ceremony. I go every year, I enjoy the occasion and the opportunity to reflect. I didn't wear a poppy on Sunday, but really did that make any difference on me paying respect and remembering?

ajsccfc · Nov 11, 2014

I don't like the idea that you must wear a poppy or else suffer wrath, that lack of choice doesn't really tally up with the freedoms a lot of people died for in the first place.

Hobo · Nov 11, 2014

AndreasB said:
And thats fine - no one expects gates of 25k in this league with the standard of opposition. However, dropping from 27k to 7k in the space of 2 games(which we won) is just bizarre and frankly embarrasing.

Because the performances were not good. People still aren't getting value for money (although some on here feel they do and that is fine).
More importantly lots of what is going on at the club under SISU people still disagree with. They are still sending out mixed messages rather than selling a plan and route to transforming the club. In my opinion SISU failed to market the return the properly. The difficulty around ticket sales and general organisation hardly helped welcome the fans back either

AndreasB · Nov 11, 2014

Hobo said:
Because the performances were not good. People still aren't getting value for money (although some on here feel they do and that is fine).
More importantly lots of what is going on at the club under SISU people still disagree with. They are still sending out mixed messages rather than selling a plan and route to transforming the club. In my opinion SISU failed to market the return the properly. The difficulty around ticket sales and general organisation hardly helped welcome the fans back either

You want the moon on the stick you do -

Point A - market the return properly/value for money - £10 for Gillingham was as good an offer as could have been made
Point B - Disagree with SISU - fair enough but thought it was about supporting a team not the owners
Point C - Difficult ticket sales - werent many issues post Gillingham!
Point D - hardly helped welcome fans back - 10 pound hospitality, 180 quid for a box etc etc

You want the moon on the stick you do - You can hate SISU all you like and with some good reason but they are not to blame for 7000 gates this year - The only mistake the club made was believe the bullshit of the "fans" who said they would be back in massive numbers when back at the Ricoh - dont remember much talk of their being an "except if SISU are still there" clause in that.

Financially, we would probably be better off at Northampton - the Ricoh is now turning into that cold, empty, spiteful place it was before we left it. Hardly the fortress to help the team on.

olderskyblue · Nov 11, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
I kind of agree there's a certain poppy fascism. And that, to me, takes away from the spirit in which such days should be approached.

Poppy fascism? Where have you seen that NW? I haven't noticed anything like that.

What about the other days of the year? Don't people deserve attention then? It seems to me that often using one day is a way to excuse forgetting the rest of the year.

I think having one day each year to commemorate the fallen in all wars is a nice thing to do, and certainly doesn't stop me recognising the sacrifice people have made any other time of the year. Have you ever visited the National Arboretum? An amazing place.

So... in football, the embroidered poppy shirts seem, to me, to be slightly crass and in bad taste.

I don't see it that way at all, but that's just me. I like the idea of the shirt with a poppy, and if a player doesn't want to wear it, then that's OK too. I just think that the shirt gesture would have been a lot nicer, and I think it made us look like cheapskates, rather than just commemorating in a different way (rightly or wrongly).

Otis · Nov 11, 2014

I thought the City players observed Remeberance Day dutifully.

Today I stood still in Coventry city centre for 2 mins and on Sunday the City team did so for nigh on an hour and a half.

olderskyblue · Nov 11, 2014

Otis said:
I thought the City players observed Remeberance Day dutifully.

Today I stood still in Coventry city centre for 2 mins and on Sunday the City team did so for nigh on an hour and a half.

especially Barton eh Otis?

Oh, I was in Debenhams at 11, and watched the falling poppies. A nice moment.

Otis · Nov 11, 2014

olderskyblue said:
especially Barton eh Otis?

Oh, I was in Debenhams at 11, and watched the falling poppies. A nice moment.

Must have just missed you then. I went in and the last few poppies were tumbling down..

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