skybluecam
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Haji’s better than Dovin or MVE.
Haji’s better than Dovin or MVE.You basically need an entire new spine after getting promoted. Championship CBs aren't quick or smart enough, CMs aren't athletic or good enough on the ball, and strikers need to be athletic, elite finishers.
People forget that Forest, Brighton and Brentford stayed up by being defensive, hard-to-beat cloggers. They didn't go up and immediately try to play teams off the park. They spent money getting stronger in the key positions.
If we did go up, we have two players I would be happy remaining as starters. Dovin and MVE. The rest I would have no qualms if we tried to sign improvements for. Even Haji and Grimes.
You basically need an entire new spine after getting promoted. Championship CBs aren't quick or smart enough, CMs aren't athletic or good enough on the ball, and strikers need to be athletic, elite finishers.
People forget that Forest, Brighton and Brentford stayed up by being defensive, hard-to-beat cloggers. They didn't go up and immediately try to play teams off the park. They spent money getting stronger in the key positions.
If we did go up, we have two players I would be happy remaining as starters. Dovin and MVE. The rest I would have no qualms if we tried to sign improvements for. Even Haji and Grimes.
Haji’s better than Dovin or MVE.
You can't even make a comparison tbh. I do think all 3 would start a hypothetical first game in the Premier League, regardless of whether posters on here want to bin off the whole squad or not.Haji’s better than Dovin or MVE.
Probably, but he plays in a position where you need to have a complete game. In this made-up world where we get promoted, if the club bought in competition for him I wouldn't be up in arms about it.Haji’s better than Dovin or MVE.
They may make the jump up but not all together in the same struggling team. Take Ipswich. Very good level championships players but losing every week in the premier league.I think you’d be surprised how many players could make the jump up. Ayari has become a decent role player for Brighton this season and many people thought he’d struggle to make a career in the EFL…
The priority we’d have as a club is adjusting the playing budget from lower to middling Championship to a top end one.
On the flip side if we dont stay up we are stuck with players on big contracts who we cant shift easily, or we have overspent beyond our resources. I agree that to compete we would need a lot of players but its a catch 22 really longer termYou’ve got to spend big and try and stay up IMO. Look at Luton, there’s no guarantees you are strong when you come back down.
Get a few key players in along the spine and a couple of loans at least. I’m not convinced you should be building a championship all stars team as most players are there for a reason.
They may make the jump up but not all together in the same struggling team. Take Ipswich. Very good level championships players but losing every week in the premier league.
Curiously if we did go up, would be people prefer we spent a lot of that money and made a real go of it or went more the Luton route and purchased the CBS?
On the flip side if we dont stay up we are stuck with players on big contracts who we cant shift easily, or we have overspent beyond our resources. I agree that to compete we would need a lot of players but its a catch 22 really longer term
True on the renting, thought to ask the question as while I get that angle. I’m still unsettled by the arena and would just love to get it sorted once and for all. Of course no reason why we can’t do both.I’d rather the club built a highly competitive squad. Luton are building a stadium rather than buying one which is a lot more expensive.
Renting a stadium has certain benefits with respect to maintenance. Money you’d rather not have to commit until you’re an established Prem team.
Curiously if we did go up, would be people prefer we spent a lot of that money and made a real go of it or went more the Luton route and purchased the CBS?
I'd rather we spend it on a proper training ground and academy, and keep the recruitment strategy broadly the same. Need to keep improving on and off the field.
True on the renting, thought to ask the question as while I get that angle. I’m still unsettled by the arena and would just love to get it sorted once and for all. Of course no reason why we can’t do both.
If I’m not wrong isn’t promotion via play offs worth £190 mil?
But the level of investment needed to even come close to staying up in the premier league is way beyond the amount of parachute money we would get. No chance we even come close to recouping the money should we inevitably go down. Much rather improve the training ground, academy and possibly even acquire the CBS.That’s what parachute payments are for. As always it comes down to decent recruitment really. Either people who can do the job in the championship or who we can sell for our money back ideally.
It's £100m of revenue per season in the PL.True on the renting, thought to ask the question as while I get that angle. I’m still unsettled by the arena and would just love to get it sorted once and for all. Of course no reason why we can’t do both.
If I’m not wrong isn’t promotion via play offs worth £190 mil?
I thought the 90 comes from the play offs final itself but never looked into it. Thanks for the info.It's £100m of revenue per season in the PL.
The additional £90m that gets added to that figure is parachute payments. But you need to spend 2 seasons in the Prem to get £90m. If you go straight down it's £60m.
But the level of investment needed to even come close to staying up in the premier league is way beyond the amount of parachute money we would get. No chance we even come close to recouping the money should we inevitably go down. Much rather improve the training ground, academy and possibly even acquire the CBS.
Good third option. Wonder if we did want to move from Ryton where we would go. Assumed we would have moved to a spot owned by the Warwick university when we were on about the stadium.I'd rather we spend it on a proper training ground and academy, and keep the recruitment strategy broadly the same. Need to keep improving on and off the field.
The way the media describes the reward for winning the playoffs (richest game in football etc) can be misleading.I thought the 90 comes from the play offs final itself but never looked into it. Thanks for the info.
A player I rate, who wanted to come back to Cov, before he went to Norwich and can play CB /LB.Why? The wages he'd command are just not worth it.
Did he really want to come back to us?He
A player I rate, who wanted to come back to Cov, before he went to Norwich and can play CB /LB.
What wages is he demanding and what is is on at the moment?
Did he really want to come back to us?
I'd rather we spend it on a proper training ground and academy, and keep the recruitment strategy broadly the same. Need to keep improving on and off the field.
I agree if we stayed up then thats the start but you cant just spend and not think of the negatives also. Big difference between trying to stay up and overspending beyond our means on a massive gambleThat will all come when the club is stable in the PL tho. There’s no financial future for the club in the Championship, the aim has to be staying up and becoming a fixture in the league like Forest managed. You can’t be scared to try.
The level we are currently at academy wise is part of the reason for that. If we invested and managed to go up a level we could attract better quality youngsters and potentially hold on to them for longer.Agree on the training ground but is it even worth having an academy? Anyone half decent is snatched away before we get a chance to see them play and make money on them and the vast majority don't end up good enough for the level we find ourselves at.
Would we be better off trying to find the likes of the next Morgan Rogers, that the top clubs don't think will be good enough and getting them to develop around the first team/on loan.
I agree if we stayed up then thats the start but you cant just spend and not think of the negatives also. Big difference between trying to stay up and overspending beyond our means on a massive gamble
...is it even worth having an academy?
He’s 29, I don’t think that’s the kind of player we’d be interested in.
2 goal contributions in 21 games isn't that appealing.Filip Rozga at Cracovia would be worth a punt IMO, only young, very raw, very one footed, but goes past players like they aren't even there at times, reminds me of Jack Clarke.
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