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Ccfcisparks · Mar 21, 2025

Honestly people are deluded if they think we are going to spend £75m+ If we go up.

Even if we did theres still a GREAT chance we would be relegated.

Players like Wright, MVE, Dovin, Torp, Grimes, EMC, Thomas/Kitching will all be around the squad still.

How many teams go up and buy a completely new starting 11 without any players playing that got them there?

fernandopartridge · Mar 21, 2025

I hadn't realised that Forest got more points in their first season after promotion (38) than last season (32)

TomRad85 · Mar 21, 2025

fernandopartridge said:
I hadn't realised that Forest got more points in their first season after promotion (38) than last season (32)

Think last season had a 4 point deduction but yeh still less.

Sky Blue Pete · Mar 21, 2025

TomRad85 said:
Think last season had a 4 point deduction but yeh still less.

What did they need to stay up that season?

hamil99 · Mar 21, 2025

Sky Blue Goblin said:
Looking at it, think pragmatism is a thing all the teams who went up (bar cooper’s Leicester) lacked.

You need to stink up the place at times and think a modern example is Brentford who happily swap to a back three and go long when needed what has paid dividends for them. Hope if we go up, we recruit with the idea of using both the 4/3/3 and 5/3/2

Yeah and I think Lampard will be willing to do that. How many games did we play in the last couple of months were we didn't look great but still got the win. Hopefully if we go up he'll put looking good to one side and just focus on the best way to get a result.

TomRad85 · Mar 21, 2025

Sky Blue Pete said:
What did they need to stay up that season?

27 points i think, cba to look again.

ovduk78 · Mar 21, 2025

Sky Blue Pete said:
What did they need to stay up that season?

More points than 3 other teams

(Leicester 3rd bottom with 34)

Sky Blue Pete · Mar 21, 2025

ovduk78 said:
More points than 3 other teams

(Leicester 3rd bottom with 34)

They got 32 I’m confused

ovduk78 · Mar 21, 2025

Sky Blue Pete said:
They got 32 I’m confused

That was 22/23 season, last season Luton were 3rd bottom with 26

Colin Steins Smile · Mar 21, 2025

Everyone posting has recognised the gulf between the PL & Championship, which appears to be widening year on year.
The reason? Obviously, the financial disparity between promoted clubs and the 17 PL clubs that now seem to be cemented into the PL.
If every season all or two of the promoted clubs get relegated, then this financial gap widens.
I'm starting to wonder as to how long it is before the american owners of PL clubs push harder to stop promotion and relegation to the PL.
IMO. The sooner the government gets the football regulator in place, the better for the football pyramid.
Regarding our club, we will need to gamble on some experienced defenders and cheaper foreign imports to give us a chance to survive. A higher risk strategy, but if we are ever to bridge the gap to the PL we need to survive 2 seasons there!

SBAndy · Mar 21, 2025

I mean, chances are we won’t go up this year anyway and, if that proves to be the case, I’d be keen to focus a lot of our energy on the defence. It’s probably the only area of the pitch where you could say with confidence that we’d be fucking horrendously under stocked if we went up. Try and retain Van Ewijk but bring in a new LB and a couple of CBs.

I’d target Archie Brown (Gent), Cameron Burgess (Ipswich) and Adrian Barisic (Basel).

Sky Blue Goblin · Mar 21, 2025

Ccfcisparks said:
Honestly people are deluded if they think we are going to spend £75m+ If we go up.

Even if we did theres still a GREAT chance we would be relegated.

Players like Wright, MVE, Dovin, Torp, Grimes, EMC, Thomas/Kitching will all be around the squad still.

How many teams go up and buy a completely new starting 11 without any players playing that got them there?

Yeah don’t disagree. Unless we got a very rich owner in the summer and got it all sorted which is unlikely, we can’t really afford to throw all the money away like Forrest did in the first year especially when we need the money to improve a lot of the infrastructure around the club imo.

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 21, 2025

An interesting question: is it now a good thing that we missed out on Stamenic last summer?

Levship20 · Mar 21, 2025

Sky Blue Goblin said:
Yeah don’t disagree. Unless we got a very rich owner in the summer and got it all sorted which is unlikely, we can’t really afford to throw all the money away like Forrest did in the first year especially when we need the money to improve a lot of the infrastructure around the club imo.

Will we have more of an attractive business model if we do eventually go up? Could DK sell? Would Fraser Group be an interested party?

covcity4life · Mar 21, 2025

Think too many getting carried away planning for prem tbh. Odds are we will be in the championship next season

Perennial Lurker · Mar 21, 2025

Brighton Sky Blue said:
An interesting question: is it now a good thing that we missed out on Stamenic last summer?

Who?

KenilworthSkyBlue · Mar 21, 2025

covcity4life said:
Think too many getting carried away planning for prem tbh. Odds are we will be in the championship next season

So you're saying that signing Florian Wirtz is off the table?

Sky Blue Goblin · Mar 21, 2025

Levship20 said:
Will we have more of an attractive business model if we do eventually go up? Could DK sell? Would Fraser Group be an interested party?

So on first point absolutely. Premiership prints money and alot of people are interested in being involved in it.

Would Doug sell? I don’t know? some ITKs state the plan is to sell us in the prem and make a profit. Doesn’t seem that far fetched and is probably the business objective for most championship owners.

Who knows on Fraser. I’ve been guilty of but think most people think so due to Ashley’s former ownership but we haven’t seen anything to say so. Think the arena is to get there names in the area before the new head office gets built.

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Mar 21, 2025

Sky Blue Pete said:
Lose a week Friday and we’ll be lucky to stay in the top 10

Not had your Weetabix today then Pete.

fatso · Mar 21, 2025

Colin Steins Smile said:
Everyone posting has recognised the gulf between the PL & Championship, which appears to be widening year on year.
The reason? Obviously, the financial disparity between promoted clubs and the 17 PL clubs that now seem to be cemented into the PL.
If every season all or two of the promoted clubs get relegated, then this financial gap widens.
I'm starting to wonder as to how long it is before the american owners of PL clubs push harder to stop promotion and relegation to the PL.
IMO. The sooner the government gets the football regulator in place, the better for the football pyramid.
Regarding our club, we will need to gamble on some experienced defenders and cheaper foreign imports to give us a chance to survive. A higher risk strategy, but if we are ever to bridge the gap to the PL we need to survive 2 seasons there!

A lot of the problem is that the football authority is toothless when it comes to enforcing the ffp rules. Man City have taken the piss for years, but nothing happens, Everton did the same but just got a meaningless points deduction
Automatic relegation should be the appropriate action plus the stripping of any succes from the records.

TomRad85 · Mar 21, 2025

fatso said:
A lot of the problem is that the football authority is toothless when it comes to enforcing the ffp rules. Man City have taken the piss for years, but nothing happens, Everton did the same but just got a meaningless points deduction
Automatic relegation should be the appropriate action plus the stripping of any succes from the records.

Yeh Forest broke PSR rules to the tune of £30 million+ and got a measly 4 point deduction. It's just an encouragement to break the rules really.

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 21, 2025

TomRad85 said:
Yeh Forest broke PSR rules to the tune of £30 million+ and got a measly 4 point deduction. It's just an encouragement to break the rules really.

Talk of Man City getting 100 point deductions is just bonkers. Won't even be half of that for the biggest piss takers of them all.

Fusilier · Mar 21, 2025

Assuming that we remain in the Championship next season, and the club wants to recruit a Left back, Centre back, winger (as cover/competition for Sakamoto) and a Right back as cover for MVE, the club would probably want to sell the following players so that there is a well balanced squad of 23-25 players.

1. Collins
2. Lati
3. Dasilva
4. BTA

The sale of these 4 players could bring in circa. £5m, which would add to the transfer funds if Sheaf is sold and the club receives money from the Gyokeres transfer.

Tavares, Howley, Burroughs and Paterson are all likely to be released in the summer which will enable the wage budget to be put to better use.

Also, if the club is not currently looking to sign a central midfield player for next season, this indicates that Kai Andrews will be part of the first team squad

Lamps · Mar 21, 2025

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Talk of Man City getting 100 point deductions is just bonkers. Won't even be half of that for the biggest piss takers of them all.

All I can see is another rule change after the case is seen in their favour. But I don't see it as a big enough victory to mean they are 100% in the clear and due damages. They have a very expensive legal team and will be able to push the rules to the limit.

TomRad85 · Mar 21, 2025

Lamps said:
All I can see is another rule change after the case is seen in their favour. But I don't see it as a big enough victory to mean they are 100% in the clear and due damages. They have a very expensive legal team and will be able to push the rules to the limit.

Ah the spirit of the game hey, competing on a level playing field, etc... I fucking hate top level football in this country. Also yes i'm a hypocrite that still wants us to be there.

Lamps · Mar 21, 2025

TomRad85 said:
Ah the spirit of the game hey, competing on a level playing field, etc... I fucking hate top level football in this country. Also yes i'm a hypocrite that still wants us to be there.

Some clubs are spending more money on legal fees than we spend on wages

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 21, 2025

Lamps said:
Some clubs are spending more money on legal fees than we spend on wages

That’s how we operated under SISU for years!

ovduk78 · Mar 21, 2025

Lamps said:
All I can see is another rule change after the case is seen in their favour. But I don't see it as a big enough victory to mean they are 100% in the clear and due damages. They have a very expensive legal team and will be able to push the rules to the limit.

My understanding of the charges against Man City is that the most serious are accountancy issues which the FA/PL have no jurisdiction over & if they have broken accountancy rules then they are a criminal court matter affecting more than 1 big accountancy firm and could result in prison sentences. I suspect they will get off with a points deduction and a hefty fine.

fernandopartridge · Mar 21, 2025

covcity4life said:
Think too many getting carried away planning for prem tbh. Odds are we will be in the championship next season

Stop talking Lampard down and being so negative

covcity4life · Mar 21, 2025

fernandopartridge said:
Stop talking Lampard down and being so negative

Don't be ridiculous. Odds are odds. Dream about prem by all means but don't take it for granted we will be there

fernandopartridge · Mar 21, 2025

covcity4life said:
Don't be ridiculous. Odds are odds. Dream about prem by all means but don't take it for granted we will be there

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PUSB-We_are_going_up · Mar 21, 2025

There is only 4 players to me that should be nailed on in the Prem:
Haji Wright, Milan van Ewijk, Jack Rudoni, Oliver Dovin

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Mar 21, 2025

To me its got to be marquee CB signings:
- Trevoh Chalobah (loan turning into a buy if we stay up)
- Cameron Carter-Vickers (Perm)

Ccfcisparks · Mar 21, 2025

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
To me its got to be marquee CB signings:
- Trevoh Chalobah (loan turning into a buy if we stay up)
- Cameron Carter-Vickers (Perm)

I like Huijsen and the brazilian lad from Forest.

covcity4life · Mar 21, 2025

fernandopartridge said:
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If you genuinely think I argued with you because you didn't show blind optimism for lampard it shows how dumb you are. You got on his back and have been shown up for it and it clearly still frustrates you as you are now trying to change the narrative to I wasn't wrong I just didn't show blind positivity.

Like I said. See right through you. You need to get better at dealing with being wrong as it happens alot to you.

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