Lamps
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Do you agree it wasn't a good move to constantly spend money we didn't have considering the implications it had to our club?
Do you agree it wasn't a good move to constantly spend money we didn't have considering the implications it had to our club?So what was your alternative? Go down earlier?
If there’s fans there’s a club basically. No PL or Champ club is disappearing because they signed one too many RBs.
Do you agree it wasn't a good move to constantly spend money we didn't have considering the implications it had to our club?
Deciding to build a new stadium with inadequate finances was the killer blow.You're totally correct on the mismanaged bit.
The ITV digital bit came after we had overspent which made it a little worse. But we were already fooked by then.
Missed out on the Sky money then missed out on the ITV money. All downhill from there.Dropping out of the top division just as media revenue exploded was the nail in the financial coffin …. The rest was window dressing
You're totally correct on the mismanaged bit.
The ITV digital bit came after we had overspent which made it a little worse. But we were already fooked by then.
Yeh and suddenly watching all the other Midlands clubs who i'd only ever seen on Midlands News up to that point start getting promoted just as we were turning to shit was especially painful.Dropping out of the top division just as media revenue exploded was the nail in the financial coffin …. The rest was window dressing
Certainly in Brummie. Didn't understand a word of it.
Definitely not a goatWas McGinnity a robot?
Truely fucked up that stylesheet, we've all done it.Was McGinnity a robot?
DovinThe Ipswich game this season should also tell you how big the step up is.
Wright and MVE are the only players I’d feel confident starting in the Premier League.
Dovin and Rudoni are still young and have not yet shown the consistency required to play in the PL next season.Dovin
Rudoni will play premier league
Mason Clark potentially too
Bobby and Liam have a high ceiling not sure grimes would be shown up either
Dovin and Rudoni are still young and have not yet shown the consistency required to play in the PL next season.
Kitching and Thomas are also nowhere near PL quality.
Grimes has some PL experience but couldn’t really break through when he was at Swansea. EMC wouldn’t be able to bully fullbacks like he can today.
I like literally all these players but people are hugely underestimating the difference in quality. We played one of the worst PL teams this season in front of a sell-out crowd and got battered.
I think people are overlooking the indifferent patches of form that both Rudoni and Dovin have seen this season, which are quickly forgotten in the Championship but are fatal in the PL.Purely from an ability perspective I’d be of the thought that Wright, Van Ewijk, Dovin, Rudoni and Grimes could all make the step up.
Under the current manager they have been phenomenal. They both would start if we went up.I think people are overlooking the indifferent patches of form that both Rudoni and Dovin have seen this season, which are quickly forgotten in the Championship but are fatal in the PL.
Both could be PL players one day, but next season?
In which case, with the greatest respect for both players, we’d almost certainly be relegated imo.Under the current manager they have been phenomenal. They both would start if we went up.
In which case, with the greatest respect for both players, we’d almost certainly be relegated imo.
Wow what an insightful thought! Yes we would likely be relegated. Its much more likely than replacing the entire 11 like you suggest.In which case, with the greatest respect for both players, we’d almost certainly be relegated imo.
Well obviously yes. I just think the position Rudoni plays is so important that you can’t afford to start a sub-PL quality player there and still have a chance of staying up.Hardly a hot take, is it. If we do happen to go up this season, chances are we’d be favourites to finish bottom anyway. Besides, surely it would also make a difference what other players were alongside them?
Our defence is letting in poor goals in the Championship. What on earth do you think would happen to them in the PL? As much as I like Thomas and Kitching they aren't PL quality.Dovin
Rudoni will play premier league
Mason Clark potentially too
Bobby and Liam have a high ceiling not sure grimes would be shown up either
I haven't seen anyone underestimate the task of staying up if we get there.Dovin and Rudoni are still young and have not yet shown the consistency required to play in the PL next season.
Kitching and Thomas are also nowhere near PL quality.
Grimes has some PL experience but couldn’t really break through when he was at Swansea. EMC wouldn’t be able to bully fullbacks like he can today.
I like literally all these players but people are hugely underestimating the difference in quality. We played one of the worst PL teams this season in front of a sell-out crowd and got battered.
The comparison with us and Brighton and Brentford makes zero sense.Teams like Brentford and Brighton did what we are doing-gradually built there squad in the championship, didn’t have loans, bought young talented players (from under valued leagues), had progressive managers, then sold for a huge profit and bought better players.
Eventually they had a squad good enough to go up and stay up.
Not the boom and bust of Sheff Utd, Norwich, L**ster etc
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They’re on a steep learning curveOur defence is letting in poor goals in the Championship. What on earth do you think would happen to them in the PL? As much as I like Thomas and Kitching they aren't PL quality.
All it takes is a little luck.The comparison with us and Brighton and Brentford makes zero sense.
They had huge financial backing compared to us. Unless we get a new owner, we have next to no chance of emulating them.
For example, Bloom has invested over £400m in interest free loans in Brighton since 2009.
Not when we see the same sides that go up come straight back down.I really think people are massively underestimating the jump from Championship to PL. if our players were PL quality they’d have been signed by a PL team.
I’m not saying we need massive investment but the belief that we’re the next Brighton or Brentford isn’t the case. We’re more likely to become a yo-yo club for a while so we can move towards having a squad that can actually survive in the PL.All it takes is a little luck.
We've not had massive investment but are up there with the teams that have in our quest to reach the Prem. We're a club in ascendancy. Investing untold millions isn't guaranteed success but it helps.
Investing £400m over 16 years sounds massive but it's only 25m a year. I say only because Sky money is much more.
How much have Stoke wasted? The wasted millions have caught up with Leicester. They're not the only sides.
We need to worry less about getting massive investment and just enjoy the journey. Getting to the Prem would be great but being there wouldn't. I honestly think we would do best staying in the Championship for another year or so.
Not when we see the same sides that go up come straight back down.
Should we throw the towel in before we get a chance to play a Prem game?
Our best realistic hope would be to become a yo-yo club. That's the same for everyone these days. The important thing is to come back down stronger than we go up.I’m not saying we need massive investment but the belief that we’re the next Brighton or Brentford isn’t the case. We’re more likely to become a yo-yo club for a while so we can move towards having a squad that can actually survive in the PL.
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