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Marty

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  • Mar 18, 2025
  • #316
Ccfcisparks said:
2 goal contributions in 21 games isn't that appealing.
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Like I said, young and very raw, got a lot to work on.
 

Hobo

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  • Mar 18, 2025
  • #317
Mucca Mad Boys said:
I think you’d be surprised how many players could make the jump up. Ayari has become a decent role player for Brighton this season and many people thought he’d struggle to make a career in the EFL…

The priority we’d have as a club is adjusting the playing budget from lower to middling Championship to a top end one.
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Yes lots of fringe Ayari's about but they need real quality around them. You make it sound so simple when sides getting promoted are spending fortunes and are still coming straight back down.

Ashley Grimes looked great at Manchester United. Came to us in the old top flight First Division and Jordan Shipley would have given him a run for the money
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Mar 18, 2025
  • #318
Mucca Mad Boys said:
He’s 29, I don’t think that’s the kind of player we’d be interested in.
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He’s a good player, I wouldnt mind him as a cheap backup if we were still Championship next season
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Mar 18, 2025
  • #319
Trueskyblue20 said:
Unlike Matty Grimes who we definitely didn’t sign in Jan
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There was always going to be one smart arse!

Grimes is one of the best players in the division and we signed him as a one off. We’re not going to build a team of 29 year olds on the bench.

If we did, that’d be really dumb.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Mar 18, 2025
  • #320
If we made prem I would keep for sure

Dovin
Thomas
Kitching
Mve
Grimes
Rudoni
Torp
Emc
Wright

And for depth: Saka, Simms, Basette(potential)

The rest I imagine we would be trying to sell and looking for upgrades
 

SBAndy

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  • Mar 18, 2025
  • #321
If we’re in the realms of throwing out names, Mamadou Sangare would be one I’d be looking at.
 

Balli001

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #322
Ccfcisparks said:
2 goal contributions in 21 games isn't that appealing.
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More than Sakamoto had at his last club
 

Balli001

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #323
shmmeee said:
It’s not though. People keep saying this like loads of clubs don’t do it.
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You seem happy to go the route of spending a fortune on the small chance we stay up and hell to the consequences. Of course we would all want to stay up but not at the financial risk to the club.
 
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HungarySkyBlue

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #324
JSL said:
This depends on whether we get promoted. Personally I would offer Allen an extension and look to sell BTA over Simms
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Of course it does if we get promoted and are serious about it only 4 maybe 5 players would stay.

Yea I forgot about BTA he would be the first out Simms to follow.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #325
Balli001 said:
You seem happy to go the route of spending a fortune on the small chance we stay up and hell to the consequences. Of course we would all want to stay up but not at the financial risk to the club.
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The probability is one year of pain (on the pitch) for several (at least) years of prosperity on and off the pitch. A no brainer, although if we did go up and likely suffer, this forum will be a battleground!
 
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Hobo

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #326
HungarySkyBlue said:
Of course it does if we get promoted and are serious about it only 4 maybe 5 players would stay.

Yea I forgot about BTA he would be the first out Simms to follow.
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Well, BTA has been playing with an injury. One of Lampard's remits is to develop players. We look to sell players at a profit not at a loss. I don't think Asanti will be out the door as soon as you think. Eccles is another I feel Lampard will see the potential in, to develop.
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #327
Sky Blue Harry H said:
The probability is one year of pain (on the pitch) for several (at least) years of prosperity on and off the pitch. A no brainer, although if we did go up and likely suffer, this forum will be a battleground!
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No it wouldn’t!
 
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Yorkshire SB

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #328
Don’t mind what Ipswich have done but was all a bit unimaginative, signing the best championship players. They look well set now and will cash in on Delap and make a nice profit.

Not sure if there’s opportunity to be a bit smarter, sign PL experience and some European wildcards.

Thought Kieran Maguire on the Cov Pod was interesting. Teams like Brighton, Brentford - played pretty hideous football, stunk the place out for a couple of years, and then started improving.
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #329
The thing is Lampard knows what it takes to stay up in the PL he’s done it with Everton. He also knows what it takes to be in the upper echelons of the division and what it takes to be a successful premier league player.
I’d back us to stay up if we got there and honestly wouldnt mind it being ugly if we got to celebrate a shithouse win against someone like Man U or Chelsea.
Its about building and momentum, right now FL is laying the foundations and with 2ppg so far as an average its easy to say we have momentum as well, all it takes is for us to actually start a season at the same time as everyone else
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #330
The situation Ben Sheaf finds himself in at the moment.

 
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Lamps

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #331
skybluecam said:
Haji’s better than Dovin or MVE.
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Not in goal though.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #332
There's a lot of presumption that Grimes could make the step up , just wonder why he hasn't previously?
He has the game and the skillset , my doubt would be over his physicality same as Torp and Allen
 
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Lamps

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #333
TomRad85 said:
Imagine thinking we'd even try and sign a whole first 11 if promoted. I'm sure the management have more faith in some of our first teamers than posters on here... at least i hope they do.
You need to be smart with the recruitment but you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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I totally agree.

What we do have is team togetherness. You can't buy that. They now understand what each other can do and the way they play. You can't buy/loan that. Look at the players that improved during our time climbing through the league.

Our younger players will continue to improve. If we came straight back down we would be a better side than what went up. Build a side that would complement what we already have.

The last thing we would want to do is spend a fortune on loan players that wouldn't be with us the next season. Use the windfall to improve our future.
 
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Lamps

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #334
skybluecam said:
The way the media describes the reward for winning the playoffs (richest game in football etc) can be misleading.

There's no special financial reward for winning the playoffs. The auto spots give out more prize money (although believe the actual playoff matches may earn you a fair amount in terms of ticket sales). The playoff final is just described that way due to the difference between winning and losing a one off game.
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From what I remember the done thing is for the winning side of the playoffs final to let the losing side keep all the revenue.
 
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Fergusons_Beard

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #335
Yorkshire SB said:
Don’t mind what Ipswich have done but was all a bit unimaginative, signing the best championship players. They look well set now and will cash in on Delap and make a nice profit.

Not sure if there’s opportunity to be a bit smarter, sign PL experience and some European wildcards.

Thought Kieran Maguire on the Cov Pod was interesting. Teams like Brighton, Brentford - played pretty hideous football, stunk the place out for a couple of years, and then started improving.
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Teams like Brentford and Brighton did what we are doing-gradually built there squad in the championship, didn’t have loans, bought young talented players (from under valued leagues), had progressive managers, then sold for a huge profit and bought better players.

Eventually they had a squad good enough to go up and stay up.

Not the boom and bust of Sheff Utd, Norwich, L**ster etc


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Lamps

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #336
Perennial Lurker said:
There's a lot of presumption that Grimes could make the step up , just wonder why he hasn't previously?
He has the game and the skillset , my doubt would be over his physicality same as Torp and Allen
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He was signed by a Prem side. When they got relegated he stayed with them for a total of 10 years. Who knows what offers were made for him over this time.

I'm not saying he would be a top.Prem player. But he certainly wouldn't be one of the worse. As a top Championship player he would be one of the last players I would be looking at replacing. Ever present, retains the ball and has a brilliant passing range. Just the type of player we would need in constant backs to the wall games. The bit of experience we would need.
 
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skyblue025

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #337
Balli001 said:
They may make the jump up but not all together in the same struggling team. Take Ipswich. Very good level championships players but losing every week in the premier league.
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Ipswich have spent 150 million trying and failing to stay up. Their best players will be cherry picked by the Prem teams. No guarantee they will go back up next season.
 
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skyblue025

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #338
Marty said:
Agree on the training ground but is it even worth having an academy? Anyone half decent is snatched away before we get a chance to see them play and make money on them and the vast majority don't end up good enough for the level we find ourselves at.
Would we be better off trying to find the likes of the next Morgan Rogers, that the top clubs don't think will be good enough and getting them to develop around the first team/on loan.
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We currently have a lvl2 academy. If we upgraded to a lvl 1 academy other teams wouldn't be able to pinch our players for peanuts. It would also enable us to get players from the lower academy's for peanuts.
With PSR rules it's a massive part of funding nowadays as academy graduates are pure profit.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #339
skyblue025 said:
Ipswich have spent 150 million trying and failing to stay up. Their best players will be cherry picked by the Prem teams. No guarantee they will go back up next season.
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Best not be in the shit financially if and when relegated back to the Championship. I don't think Ipswich have messed up that equation have they?
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #340
Captain Dart said:
Best not be in the shit financially if and when relegated back to the Championship. I don't think Ipswich have messed up that equation have they?
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They will recoup a big chunk back on Delap and a couple of others
 

mmttww

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #341
skyblue025 said:
Ipswich have spent 150 million...
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If you're spending that much, feel like you should be able to get a few outstanding defenders and midfielders (and a GK if needed) through the door to make the spine of the team as strong as it can be. Don't think they did that looking at who they brought it. Seems like they splashed the cash up top.
 

mmttww

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #342
for what it's worth, if we pulled it off and went up, I reckon we could make a fist of it with...

LB - basically, clone MVE, but left footed.
CB - one big ticket CB with a load of pace.
CM - find a less injury prone Ben Sheaf.
RW - a Haji-level signing with a lotta pace.
CF - sell Asante, consider upgrading Simms.

Probably still get thumped a lot but might just be enough to win 8-10 games, mostly at home.
 

Captain Dart

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #343
mmttww said:
for what it's worth, if we pulled it off and went up, I reckon we could make a fist of it with...

LB - basically, clone MVE, but left footed.
CB - one big ticket CB with a load of pace.
CM - find a less injury prone Ben Sheaf.
RW - a Haji-level signing with a lotta pace.
CF - sell Asante, consider upgrading Simms.

Probably still get thumped a lot but might just be enough to win 8-10 games, mostly at home.
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If we could clone MVE we would make a fortune.
 
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skyblue025

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #344
Perennial Lurker said:
They will recoup a big chunk back on Delap and a couple of others
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Thats true enough but you don't want to lose your best players if you want to go straight back up. It's the fringe players and the ones that didn't work out you want rid of and no guarantee that will happen. Is McKenna the genius people talk about or did he get lucky last season? He's done nothing this season to prove he's a tactical wizard.
 

ovduk78

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #345
mmttww said:
for what it's worth, if we pulled it off and went up, I reckon we could make a fist of it with...

LB - basically, clone MVE, but left footed.
CB - one big ticket CB with a load of pace.
CM - find a less injury prone Ben Sheaf.
RW - a Haji-level signing with a lotta pace.
CF - sell Asante, consider upgrading Simms.

Probably still get thumped a lot but might just be enough to win 8-10 games, mostly at home.
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I think we would also need a backup to MVE & Tats and the CM would also have loads of pace
 

mmttww

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #346
ovduk78 said:
I think we would also need a backup to MVE & Tats and the CM would also have loads of pace
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Yeah, we'll need someone to cover RB whatever league we're in but I was calling out where we'd need to spend serious cash (£10-15m each). I'd see the RW as an upgrade on Sakamoto as I don't see him cutting it as first choice in the PL.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #347
I would definitely focus on the defence in the summer, regardless of promotion or not.

LB, RB to compete with MvE and at least 1 CB. preferably two.

If we stay in the Championship then I don't think there's much needed elsewhere (maybe a RW to compete with Sakamoto), If we go up one each midfielder and forward to improve the overall quality.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #348
Far as I'm aware the championship shopping list is


LB Already in talks apparently
CB
RB Understudy
Winger
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #349
Saddlebrains said:
Far as I'm aware the championship shopping list is


LB Already in talks apparently
CB
RB Understudy
Winger
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That's great, but how is another RB not on that list? They can't seriously think we'd be fine having to play the likes of Lati there for an extended period can they? Or do they think one of the youngsters like Batanwi or Sandiford may be ready to be back up next year?

If not then they're playing a dangerous game and risk burning MvE out and him going the way of Dabo.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Mar 19, 2025
  • #350
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
That's great, but how is another RB not on that list? They can't seriously think we'd be fine having to play the likes of Lati there for an extended period can they? Or do they think one of the youngsters like Batanwi or Sandiford may be ready to be back up next year?

If not then they're playing a dangerous game and risk burning MvE out and him going the way of Dabo.
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I've put it on there mate, Right back understudy

We are seemingly looking for some L1 and L2 gems for that position to develop under Milan
 
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