Benno, there is no real divide. 90% of us fans are together in opposition to moving out of Coventry.
Any discord is purely down to the few mischief makers on here.
There you go causing divisions. I'd say 99.9% if not 100% of fans oppose the move to Sixfields (inc. RFC).
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i'm sure you're right.
its just most of us are not happy to drop our pants, bend over and stand in line in a cow shed in Northampton while getting fucked by a hedge fund.
There you go causing divisions. I'd say 99.9% if not 100% of fans oppose the move to Sixfields (inc. RFC).
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I don't necessarily disagree Stu..couple of points though..
It grates me when I'm accused of being a hypocrite for going to MK Dons with my son by some Sixfield attendees... when they in turn don't support the groundshare in Northampton and yet?.. seems like the opposite side of the same coin to me?
In addition... the notion that by not attending Sixfield automatically equals support for NOPM is fundamentally misguided, further linked to by many Sixfield attendess as probable root cause for any January player sales. Ludicrous given the choices made by SISU. Some, and I admit there was an early post from me that stated 'NOPM', I was wrong, that wasnt my clearest of thoughts/
I don't and won't attend Northampton because of the principled position that I hold that it is wrong and infinitely avoidable.no other. Some disagree...about 10% based on attendances 2012/13 to 2013/14.. in a democratic society I'm comfortable with my vote, albeit very concious of the possible circumstance not mutually exclusive from the decisions that SISU took.
I think it's more those slating those going to Sixfields accusing them of supporting 'covampton' franchise because of the temporary, but then went to MK Dons and gave money to a franchise club. That is a tad hypocritical.
Those who don't agree with the groundshare but still go to Sixfields are doing so because they want to support the lads. That's not hypocritical. We all do things we don't really want to do. Now of those people where encouraging people not to attend Sixfields but attended themselves I would class that as being hypocritical.
I agree not everyone is adopting NOPM, but the majority view is "in not going to Sixfields and giving SISU my money" and quote NOPM. For those that spout that on here but then go to cup games are being hypocritical.
low attendance = low income, so of course NOPM will be a contributing factor if we end up having to sell in January.
Similarly not everyone is boycotting, some people just can't get there, whether because of distance or time.
Fair enough that is your decision, just don't have a go those that do (not accusing you), which is very divisive.
As side note - Oldham match (modest away following) there was about 30% of 2012/13 average, so not everyone is actively boycotting 100%.
In addition to the Sixfields attendees/boycotters, staunch NOPM/those that will give sisu money, there are also lots of other divisions though, where and portion blame lies, Thoughts on new stadium, ownership of the Ricoh, those that feel ccfc is already dead and want an AFC Coventry, etc.
And also thinking about it, how many unique visitors have their been at Sixfields? How many ST's are there? Are there a lot of regulars or is there a large number of fans that have just attended 1-2 games.
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I think it's more those slating those going to Sixfields accusing them of supporting 'covampton' franchise because of the temporary, but then went to MK Dons and gave money to a franchise club. That is a tad hypocritical.
Those who don't agree with the groundshare but still go to Sixfields are doing so because they want to support the lads. That's not hypocritical. We all do things we don't really want to do. Now of those people where encouraging people not to attend Sixfields but attended themselves I would class that as being hypocritical.
I agree not everyone is adopting NOPM, but the majority view is "in not going to Sixfields and giving shitsu my money" and quote NOPM. For those that spout that on here but then go to cup games are being hypocritical.
low attendance = low income, so of course NOPM will be a contributing factor if we end up having to sell in January.
Similarly not everyone is boycotting, some people just can't get there, whether because of distance or time.
Fair enough that is your decision, just don't have a go those that do (not accusing you), which is very divisive.
As side note - Oldham match (modest away following) there was about 30% of 2012/13 average, so not everyone is actively boycotting 100%.
In addition to the Sixfields attendees/boycotters, staunch NOPM/those that will give sisu money, there are also lots of other divisions though, where and portion blame lies, Thoughts on new stadium, ownership of the Ricoh, those that feel ccfc is already dead and want an AFC Coventry, etc.
And also thinking about it, how many unique visitors have their been at Sixfields? How many ST's are there? Are there a lot of regulars or is there a large number of fans that have just attended 1-2 games.
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Wrong! Your logic is faulty.The position is, the move to Northampton of CCFC has been a financial disaster that has hit our beloved club almost to oblivion.
90% + of City fans have stayed away.
You are right, but people need to look at the long term rather than the short term.There you go causing divisions. I'd say 99.9% if not 100% of fans oppose the move to Sixfields (inc. RFC).
Strange how this thread is turning into just what the OP stated in the first place. Everyone slating each other off. C'mon guys, we all have opinions of SISU, Otium, Timmy, CCC, etc etc, but the win yesterday was all about a well won game of football. I was really proud of the team yesterday and can't wait to see who we get drawn against in the next round.
Strange how this thread is turning into just what the OP stated in the first place. Everyone slating each other off. C'mon guys, we all have opinions of SISU, Otium, Timmy, CCC, etc etc, but the win yesterday was all about a well won game of football. I was really proud of the team yesterday and can't wait to see who we get drawn against in the next round.
Stupot, for someone who doesn't support Sisu or the move to Sixfields, you're doing a very good job of it. Or trying to.
Your stats re the the Oldham attendance are laughable.
The position is, the move to Northampton of CCFC has been a financial disaster that has hit our beloved club almost to oblivion.
90% + of City fans have stayed away.
The white hankies of Sixfields are seriously undermining hopes for a return to Coventry. And not to a tinpot 12,500 ground either.
You are right, but people need to look at the long term rather than the short term.
Agreed, but isn't this was sisu are saying, short term pain for long term gain?
Coming back to the Ricoh as tenants with not access to any additional revenue is short term measure and a return to the status quo albeit on reduced rent.
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Depends whose figures you are using ?
Certainly a 12,000 seater stadium would finish us financially and ambition wise.
There you go again with your derogatory tone agains the Sixfields attendees. That's the most divisive thing.
And re: stats.
3300 vs Oldham, average in 2012/13 was 10,700.
(3300/10700) * 100 = 30.8%.
No point using Peterborough as they brought an abnormally large following.
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Actual stats are
Average 13/14 is 2427, average in 12/13 was 10948.
2427/10948 *100 = 22%.
Using your Oldham figure of 3300 against the comparable game last season (Shrewsbury) its:
3300/15185 * 100 = 21.7%
Neither are anywhere near the 30% figure your trying to state.
When will the penny drop sisu have no intrest in football , the additional revenue is not going to go into ccfcAgreed, but isn't this was sisu are saying, short term pain for long term gain?
Coming back to the Ricoh as tenants with not access to any additional revenue is short term measure and a return to the status quo albeit on reduced rent.
Wrong! Your logic is faulty.
90% + of City fans staying away has been a financial disaster that has hit our beloved club almost to oblivion!
Wrong! Your logic is faulty.
90% + of City fans staying away has been a financial disaster that has hit our beloved club almost to oblivion!
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