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Still no negotiations over a ricoh return! (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jan 6, 2014
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SavageCovCity

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #36
Couldn't ACL try and buy the club?
 

chiefdave

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #37
SavageCovCity said:
Couldn't ACL try and buy the club?
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Slight problem of SISU wanting about £60m for it!
 

Rusty Trombone

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #38
SavageCovCity said:
Couldn't ACL try and buy the club?
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They could, how much do you think it's worth. I'd say £1 at the most.
 
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SkyBlueHomer

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #39
The Reverend Skyblue said:
Torch I said this many months ago that this will happen, whether a rugby league franchise or my favoured bet an American football franchise that will host NFL games 4/5 matches a season. I know they need more than that but I can see one day a British Grid iron team playing in the NFL in the coming years as the demand is definitely here for it and the Ricoh is slap bang in the middle of the country.

If not the rugby league franchise or say the Wasps locating permantly at the Ricoh as I think they once played at Reading for a few seasons I think, though I stand to be corrected, it could have been the London Irish who I am thinking of but they soon could become the Midland Irish, and also did'nt London welsh play at Oxford last year in the Prem as their ground wasn't up to grade, and I know they are top of league 1 this season, so they will be looking at finding another ground if they go back up to meet grading issues

Just my thoughts and shows options are out there if you have a facility like the Ricoh empty and looking for business
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Rugby League - London Bronco's have recently announced their intention to leave their home Twickenham Stoop(fact, from their website). As far as i'm aware they haven't found anything yet. Nothing much going on at the Ricoh at the minute. No evidence for a move to the Ricoh but Coventry isn't that far from traditional Rugby League heartland but if we are talking franchise teams its a thought.

The new Super League fixtures are out and home game venue still shows TBA on their website....
 
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SavageCovCity

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #40
Yeah I know its a long shot but carnt see that takeover happening anyway, SISU/Otium there businesses that want there take on losses, carnt seeing them letting go unless we have a billionaire takeover.
 

Moff

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #41
SkyBlueHomer said:
Rugby League - London Bronco's have recently announced their intention to leave their home Twickenham Stoop(fact, from their website). As far as i'm aware they haven't found anything yet. Nothing much going on at the Ricoh at the minute. No evidence for a move to the Ricoh but Coventry isn't that far from traditional Rugby League heartland but if we are talking franchise teams its a thought.

The new Super League fixtures are out and home game venue still shows TBA on their website....
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The reason they are leaving is lack of income due to a near non existent fanbase, which is pretty much what would happen here so its pretty much a non starter.

No rugby club will move here as with Leicester Tigers and Northampton Saints eating up much of the local fanbase along with the Cov Rugby Club followers, who would support it?
 

chiefdave

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #42
I wouldn't be keen on another team being moved here, unless their supporters were in favour of it of course. Does the Super League have any plans to expand, could there be a new team here? Have no idea at all how things work in Rugby.

If Nuneaton were to go up is their ground up to league standard? Wonder if they would consider the Ricoh as a temporary measure if their ground needs more work doing than could be done in the close season.
 

torchomatic

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #43
Wow a round trip of 200 miles for home games. I bet their fans wouldn't be happy.

SkyBlueHomer said:
Rugby League - London Bronco's have recently announced their intention to leave their home Twickenham Stoop(fact, from their website). As far as i'm aware they haven't found anything yet. Nothing much going on at the Ricoh at the minute. No evidence for a move to the Ricoh but Coventry isn't that far from traditional Rugby League heartland but if we are talking franchise teams its a thought.

The new Super League fixtures are out and home game venue still shows TBA on their website....
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duffer

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #44
torchomatic said:
Not likely though is it? I would have thought any prospective owner would want some real estate.
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I would think that any prospective owner would be more concerned with the viability of the club, rather than the real estate. That's about income streams, expenditure and squad potential rather than owning bricks and mortar, isn't it?

It's an interesting thought though. Could there be a scenario where a potential owner in the future sees the benefit of bringing the club back to a 32,000 seater stadium in Coventry, rather than staying in a 12,000 seater stadium elsewhere? I suppose as long as the Ricoh exists as a stadium it does to some degree impact on the value of any new, smaller, poorly located ground.
 
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SkyBlueHomer

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #45
Moff said:
The reason they are leaving is lack of income due to a near non existent fanbase, which is pretty much what would happen here so its pretty much a non starter.

No rugby club will move here as with Leicester Tigers and Northampton Saints eating up much of the local fanbase along with the Cov Rugby Club followers, who would support it?
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It would be a huge gamble but if very few support them in London probably be no worse off. Like I said, no evidence but if we are talking franchise teams.
I'm sure non of us though would welcome ACL 'stealing' someones team with the hassle our club is having at the minute
 
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Spionkop

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #46
I read that London Broncos have agreed a groundshare at Barnet's 'Hive' ground.
 

duffer

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #47
Hmm... from a rugby fan's viewpoint, can I just say that I'd have no interest in watching a 'bigger' team like London Irish play at the Ricoh on a regular basis or especially instead of watching Cov RFC.

I support Cov RFC because they're Coventry's team. If Man Utd were suddenly parachuted into the Ricoh, how many here would go and watch them instead of CCFC (assuming CCFC were still in the City)?

Personally, and imho etc., 'franchise' teams in any sport are an abonimation - I'd hate it if the Ricoh got involved in anything like this.
 
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lapsed_skyblue

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #48
duffer said:
I support Cov RFC because they're Coventry's team. If Man Utd were suddenly parachuted into the Ricoh, how many here would go and watch them instead of CCFC (assuming CCFC were still in the City)?
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From what I hear, playing in Coventry would put Man Utd more convenient for many of its fans.
 

James Smith

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #49
duffer said:
Hmm... from a rugby fan's viewpoint, can I just say that I'd have no interest in watching a 'bigger' team like London Irish play at the Ricoh on a regular basis or especially instead of watching Cov RFC.

I support Cov RFC because they're Coventry's team. If Man Utd were suddenly parachuted into the Ricoh, how many here would go and watch them instead of CCFC (assuming CCFC were still in the City)?

Personally, and imho etc., 'franchise' teams in any sport are an abonimation - I'd hate it if the Ricoh got involved in anything like this.
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Why not CovRFC there instead of us if they wanted to (and I'm not saying they would)? I'm sure there would be financial stuff to be worked out but it would be better if someone was using the pitch whilst we're not. ACL should only offer the same terms as their last offer to us or it might act as a red rag to SISU.
 

gally9

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #50
Sick of it all.. bunch of clowns the lot of em'
 

Mr T - Sukka!

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #51
Nothing has changed. Close thread.
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #52
Why not I hear Coventry United are moving to the Butts next season due to bigger crowds?

James Smith said:
Why not CovRFC there instead of us if they wanted to (and I'm not saying they would)? I'm sure there would be financial stuff to be worked out but it would be better if someone was using the pitch whilst we're not. ACL should only offer the same terms as their last offer to us or it might act as a red rag to SISU.
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Como

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #53
Nothing will happen before the Judicial Review is heard.
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #54
grego_gee said:
Does it not seem like the council are biding their time waiting for something to happen?
What could that be?
Could they be hoping we will get promoted to strengthen their position in negotiations?
maybe they would try and out-wait SISU's new stadium alternative?
one season?
two seasons?
three seasons?

OMG!......
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It takes 2 to tango..
 
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Tonylinc

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #55
Como said:
Nothing will happen before the Judicial Review is heard.
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And kicked out!
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #56
letsallsingtogether said:
Why not I hear Coventry United are moving to the Butts next season due to bigger crowds?
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What gone from 10 to 20 has it? Be lots of postponements if two teams play on the same pitch.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #57
Tonylinc said:
And kicked out!
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Do you have legal training?
 

Rusty Trombone

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #58
Grendel said:
What gone from 10 to 20 has it? Be lots of postponements if two teams play on the same pitch.
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Very good, I see what you've done there. I think they get 70-80, good for their level. Rugby wouldn't be disrupted, but wouldn't fancy playing football on a rugby pitch.
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #59
Grendel said:
What gone from 10 to 20 has it? Be lots of postponements if two teams play on the same pitch.
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You can be childish & take the piss if you want, but here is clear evidence of the current crowds as posted on their twitter feed. They ain't hiding anything.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #60
Jack Griffin said:
You can be childish & take the piss if you want, but here is clear evidence of the current crowds as posted on their twitter feed. They ain't hiding anything.
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Wow nice hill there as well
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #61
Grendel said:
Wow nice hill there as well
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Actually the hill is where the photographer was standing (and usually 5 or 6 more casual spectators in the 4 or 5 times I've looked in on a game)
 
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The Gentleman

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #62
Grendel said:
Wow nice hill there as well
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Do you not think there is enough in fighting on other threads of late, why don't you just give it a fucking rest for a bit.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #63
Jack Griffin said:
Actually the hill is where the photographer was standing (and usually 5 or 6 more casual spectators in the 4 or 5 times I've looked in on a game)
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I am sure you agree then that doubling the attendance will not mean a need to groundshare with the Butts.
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #64
Grendel said:
I am sure you agree then that doubling the attendance will not mean a need to groundshare with the Butts.
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Nothing to do with me, why don't you tell the guys who run Cov Utd club how they should be managing their club..
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #65
Grendel said:
I am sure you agree then that doubling the attendance will not mean a need to groundshare with the Butts.
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Maybe they just want some seats?
 

Como

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #66
Tonylinc said:
And kicked out!
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Have you read it? Quite interesting, there may be a film in it, at least a TV series.
 

Kneeza

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #67
James Smith said:
Why not CovRFC there instead of us if they wanted to (and I'm not saying they would)? I'm sure there would be financial stuff to be worked out but it would be better if someone was using the pitch whilst we're not. ACL should only offer the same terms as their last offer to us or it might act as a red rag to SISU.
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They certainly wouldn't. They own the ground (paying peppercorn 'ground rent' to the city council), and average 1252 per match which is a fraction of the main stand's capacity, never mind the whole ground.
The Bears will also be going 'pro' within the next 12 months as they step up to the pro leagues, but it's doubtful that they'll get more than a few hundred in there until they get to the Superleague (if they don't, it won't be for the want of ambition).
The Butts is a great friendly little ground with bags of potential for expansion - I can't see either Cov or The Bears wishing to leave it any time soon!
 

James Smith

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #68
Kneeza said:
They certainly wouldn't. They own the ground (paying peppercorn 'ground rent' to the city council), and average 1252 per match which is a fraction of the main stand's capacity, never mind the whole ground.
The Bears will also be going 'pro' within the next 12 months as they step up to the pro leagues, but it's doubtful that they'll get more than a few hundred in there until they get to the Superleague (if they don't, it won't be for the want of ambition).
The Butts is a great friendly little ground with bags of potential for expansion - I can't see either Cov or The Bears wishing to leave it any time soon!
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Okay as I said only if they wanted to and if as you say they wouldn't want to then fine. It's just a shame that the Ricoh pitch isn't being used whilst we're not there.
 

Rusty Trombone

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  • Jan 6, 2014
  • #69
Kneeza said:
They certainly wouldn't. They own the ground (paying peppercorn 'ground rent' to the city council), and average 1252 per match which is a fraction of the main stand's capacity, never mind the whole ground.
The Bears will also be going 'pro' within the next 12 months as they step up to the pro leagues, but it's doubtful that they'll get more than a few hundred in there until they get to the Superleague (if they don't, it won't be for the want of ambition).
The Butts is a great friendly little ground with bags of potential for expansion - I can't see either Cov or The Bears wishing to leave it any time soon!
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If they owned the ground why would they pay ground rent? If they are paying a small ground rent, it sounds more like they have a lease.
 
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