ccfcchris
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Should be loads of people willing to go that refuse to go to City games while SISU are here?
Should be loads of people willing to go that refuse to go to City games while SISU are here?Don't they play on Saturdays when we play?
Didn’t 50% of their regular fans sign a petition. We keep being told without sisu we’d have 20,000 fans. Where is the protests from them?
Usually when we are away so plenty could go I've been 3 times without missing a City home game.Don't they play on Saturdays when we play?
How does everyone else afford it? They were offered use of the Brentford Community Stadium which is just over a mile from their original ground but turned it down. London Irish will be moving there instead.So they could have had a stadium in London how much would it have cost?
So if sisu moved to Belfast with the FL permission and they could build a cheap stadium and make a return you’d support that?
Or if Huddersfield town found that they needed to move south to a bigger stadium to be a premier club for the long term you’d support that?
Wow you and fisher are two peas from the same pod. He’d say exactly what you’ve said if we moved.
13.7.2 would be appropriate having in mind the relationship (if any) between the locality with which by its name or otherwise the applicant Club is traditionally associated and that in which such Club proposes to establish its ground;
13.7.3 would not to any material extent adversely affect such Club’s Officials, players, supporters, shareholders, sponsors and others having an interest in its activities;
Fuck off where Have I said I support them. I was just making a comment, get back to bed.So if sisu moved to Belfast with the FL permission and they could build a cheap stadium and make a return you’d support that?
Or if Huddersfield town found that they needed to move south to a bigger stadium to be a premier club for the long term you’d support that?
Wow you and fisher are two peas from the same pod. He’d say exactly what you’ve said if we moved.
How does everyone else afford it? They were offered use of the Brentford Community Stadium which is just over a mile from their original ground but turned it down. London Irish will be moving there instead.
How have clubs like Barnet and AFC Wimbledon managed it, not exactly clubs renowned for being loaded.
So if sisu moved to Belfast with the FL permission and they could build a cheap stadium and make a return you’d support that?
Or if Huddersfield town found that they needed to move south to a bigger stadium to be a premier club for the long term you’d support that?
Wow you and fisher are two peas from the same pod. He’d say exactly what you’ve said if we moved.
Didn’t 50% of their regular fans sign a petition. We keep being told without sisu we’d have 20,000 fans. Where is the protests from them?
Surely the best way to vent any anger against wasps is to get up the Butts and support Cov rugby. Not only sends a message but gives financial help to the true rugby club of this city.
No its on the site of the old dog racing stadium which was owned by Galliard Homes.Don't Wimbledon already own the land
No, the land was (and possibly still is) owned by the council. Wealdstone were planning a new ground there but their investment partner went out of business so the plug got pulled on the project. The council then put the lease up for tender and Barnet purchased it and built the stadium that planning permission already existed for. They also retained ownership of their old ground.didn't Barnet move into a ground that was built for Wealdstone FC
How does everyone else afford it? They were offered use of the Brentford Community Stadium which is just over a mile from their original ground but turned it down. London Irish will be moving there instead.
How have clubs like Barnet and AFC Wimbledon managed it, not exactly clubs renowned for being loaded.
No its on the site of the old dog racing stadium which was owned by Galliard Homes.
No, the land was (and possibly still is) owned by the council. Wealdstone were planning a new ground there but their investment partner went out of business so the plug got pulled on the project. The council then put the lease up for tender and Barnet purchased it and built the stadium that planning permission already existed for. They also retained ownership of their old ground.
Ah but they moved away after lease problems with Barnet Council.No its on the site of the old dog racing stadium which was owned by Galliard Homes.
No, the land was (and possibly still is) owned by the council. Wealdstone were planning a new ground there but their investment partner went out of business so the plug got pulled on the project. The council then put the lease up for tender and Barnet purchased it and built the stadium that planning permission already existed for. They also retained ownership of their old ground.
Didn’t 50% of their regular fans sign a petition. We keep being told without sisu we’d have 20,000 fans. Where is the protests from them?
Either way it shows that the claim it was not possible for Wasps to move back to London is completely false.Think it was London Welsh who were supposed to be moving or at least talking about moving there. Them going bust opened the door for Irish.
I think Wimbledon are putting in £7m towards the project and in return get the lease for the stadium. So a similar amount Wasps have got the lease on the Ricoh for.AFC will be leasing. The developer still owns the land as I understand it. Accommodating AFC was conditional of planning for the development, went all the way to Boris as I recall. The entire development is much larger than Wimbledon stadium.
Can everyone get a stadium that cheaply?Either way it shows that the claim it was not possible for Wasps to move back to London is completely false.
I think Wimbledon are putting in £7m towards the project and in return get the lease for the stadium. So a similar amount Wasps have got the lease on the Ricoh for.
At the end of the day the claim that it was impossible to find somewhere for a new stadium or prohibitively expensive are both clearly false.
But the point is Barnet have built and moved to a new stadium. Something we are being told was an impossibility for Wasps.Ah but they moved away after lease problems with Barnet Council.
If it wasn't in the Coventry Observer then it's bullshit.
Either way it shows that the claim it was not possible for Wasps to move back to London is completely false.
I think Wimbledon are putting in £7m towards the project and in return get the lease for the stadium. So a similar amount Wasps have got the lease on the Ricoh for.
At the end of the day the claim that it was impossible to find somewhere for a new stadium or prohibitively expensive are both clearly false.
Without examining all new stadiums I couldn't say but AFC seems to follow the model of the Ricoh in that a small amount of capital is required (in the Ricoh's case £10m) and then the rest can be access via grants and the development of adjacent land for non stadium purposes. In the case of the Ricoh the shopping centre and conference hall, in the case of AFC housing.Can everyone get a stadium that cheaply?
But did they drop lucky?But the point is Barnet have built and moved to a new stadium. Something we are being told was an impossibility for Wasps.
But the point is Barnet have built and moved to a new stadium. Something we are being told was an impossibility for Wasps.
I'm not saying that specific site, I'm saying it is possible. Other teams mange it. They even manage it incredibly close to Wasps traditional home.Didn’t Barnet take possession of the site though back in 2006? Richardson didn’t take ownership of Wasps until 2013 so it was never an option.
I'm not saying that specific site, I'm saying it is possible. Other teams mange it. They even manage it incredibly close to Wasps traditional home.
Anyway Wasps moved temporarily to High Wycombe in 2002 so could easily have got involved with any plans from that point on as other Premiership sides have done.
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Wasps fans threaten weekend protests over club's move to Coventry's Ricoh Arena
I find it funnier how nearly every thread on here mentions the wasps.Its actually hilarious watching people trying to morally justify wasps moving to 90 miles to Coventry. Lolz
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Lets not head directly down the reductio ad absurdum route. The EFL regulations prevent clubs moving more than 8 miles from the area with which it is traditionally associated.
Are you deliberately being obtuse? As I said before I wasn't just referring to those examples.On what basis though? Wasps owners clearly wanted freehold or leasehold.
I agreed with you until you tried to justify wasps moving even though you said it was wrong.
Are you deliberately being obtuse? As I said before I wasn't just referring to those examples.
There are plenty of clubs, both football and rugby, in London who have moved to new stadiums in recent years. Therefore the assertion that it was impossible for Wasps to do so doesn't stand up. Not all those projects are in the past, there are stadiums currently being built and others at the planning stage. How come all those other clubs can manage it but not Wasps.
Now you're saying they moved to find a ground that met specific requirements regarding ownership model. Does that apply to everyone, can other teams just randomly move about as and when it suits with no concern for the fans they are leaving behind?
MK Dons don't own the stadium we play in, that's the reason they get mentioned less than Wasps.
The franchising issue is a problem, because the same people who abandoned CCFC after the Northampton moved, have now jumped into bed with a sports club who have done pretty much the exact same thing.
It becomes more personal about Wasps because they are deliberately trying to hijack our fan base. Something that some wet lettuces have done without much persuasion at all, and something others are starting to give in to.
Due to the aid of them, we are also without a permanent home. They are a bunch of scumbags, and anyone who calls themselves a CCFC fan should not be seen dead at the Ricoh when there is a wasps game on.
Why are you putting additional conditions on it? That's not how it should work, an owners fancies a certain ground arrangement so they up and move across the country.Again on what basis. Wasps owners have been clear about ownership. What options have been available to wasps under their current owner that involves ownership?
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