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Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 27, 2022
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On the Assumption Kane and Walker go, as has been touted a lot recently

GK- Moore, Wilson
RWB - Dabo, Eccles, Burroughs
LWB - Adaramola, Bidwell
CB - Hyam, Rose, Fadz, Panzo, Doyle
CM - Hamer, Sheaf, Allen, Eccles, Kelly, Howley
CAM - O'Hare, Palmer
ST - Gyokores, Godden, Tavares, Waghorn


Il say it, stronger than last year. No reason a play off push cant take place
 
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AOM

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #2
Would be happy with that team overall.
Still think we're going to lose either Gyokeres, O'Hare or Hamer though before the transfer window closes. Hopefully I'm wrong...
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #3
AOM said:
Would be happy with that team overall.
Still think we're going to lose either Gyokeres, O'Hare or Hamer though before the transfer window closes. Hopefully I'm wrong...
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Lets hope not.


Even if we can kick the can to January for now, and reassess. If were midtable then of course sell one, even 2 and try and replace. Feel it would be a shame not to at least get the first half of the season out the way without giving it a proper crack
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #4
Squad looks good but main thing to be concerned of is an increase of loan players which are a short term fix. Probably not likely to sign anyone else permanently unless players are sold

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Tea & Busquets

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #5
One more definite loan coming in, hope it’s Elliot Anderson or another young attacking midfielder. Think if anyone were to leave it’d be O’Hare in which case i’d hope we can bring in both Sibley as O’Hare’s replacement and Max Bird as a Kelly replacement on cut price deals. Plange would also be very welcome on loan if Walker does go.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #6
skyblue1991 said:
Squad looks good but main thing to be concerned of is an increase of loan players which are a short term fix. Probably not likely to sign anyone else permanently unless players are sold

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I agree, and usually MR is against loans, but i think its a case of needs must for this season, as next summer there are some high earners out of contract and expecting a massive churn
 

fatso

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #7
Saddlebrains said:
Il say it, stronger than last year. No reason a play off push cant take place
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Except that the championship in general is a lot stronger than it was last year.
And your not having 2 teams with massive points deductions.
And we arnt going to be the surprise package that we were last year.


I'm not wanting to piss on your fire, but it's easy to get carried away before a ball has been kicked in anger.
If you want a reality check, go through that squad, and ask yourself how many of those players would of got into Fulhams starting line up last year.

And it's worth pointing out that a third of our squad havnt made 20 championship starts BETWEEN THEM!!!!
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #8
Saddlebrains said:
On the Assumption Kane and Walker go, as has been touted a lot recently

GK- Moore, Wilson
RWB - Dabo, Eccles, Burroughs
LWB - Adaramola, Bidwell
CB - Hyam, Rose, Fadz, Panzo, Doyle
CM - Hamer, Sheaf, Allen, Eccles, Kelly, Howley
CAM - O'Hare, Palmer
ST - Gyokores, Godden, Tavares, Waghorn


Il say it, stronger than last year. No reason a play off push cant take place
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I agree , stronger than last year
 
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skybluegod

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #9
Saddlebrains said:
I agree, and usually MR is against loans, but i think its a case of needs must for this season, as next summer there are some high earners out of contract and expecting a massive churn
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Agreed. We are going to free up a huge amount of wages next summer:
Kelly, walker, Kane, Hilsner and Waghorn all big earners out of contract. Then still have the likes of fadz, Rose, etc to add onto that.

Could be a good thing or a very bad thing!
 
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Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #10
skyblue1991 said:
Squad looks good but main thing to be concerned of is an increase of loan players which are a short term fix. Probably not likely to sign anyone else permanently unless players are sold

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I know what you're getting at but if you compare to last season we had Maatsen and JCS and we've replaced them with Adaramola and Panzo/Doyle ( i don't expect Panzo and Doyle to start together regularly). If Bidwell is 1st choice then we may actually be less reliant on loans...time will tell.
 

Skybluedownunder

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #11
skyblue1991 said:
Squad looks good but main thing to be concerned of is an increase of loan players which are a short term fix. Probably not likely to sign anyone else permanently unless players are sold

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Forest went up on half their team being loans.


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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #12
Skybluedownunder said:
Forest went up on half their team being loans.


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And have had to spend up to £120m to fix the issue this summer. Doubt we’d be able to afford that if we got promoted.
 

Hobo

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #13
SeaSeeEffCee said:
And have had to spend up to £120m to fix the issue this summer. Doubt we’d be able to afford that if we got promoted.
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And having to gel so many signings may affect their early form. We all know in the Premier League a poor start is usually disaterous. Even with parachute payments can they afford the new signings if they come straight back down? I can see Forest being the whipping boys this season.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #14
SeaSeeEffCee said:
And have had to spend up to £120m to fix the issue this summer. Doubt we’d be able to afford that if we got promoted.
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Also they had loans like Keinan Davis and Zinckernagel who were experienced and probably paying loan fees for. Spence had 70 games at Boro too
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #15
fatso said:
Except that the championship in general is a lot stronger than it was last year.
And your not having 2 teams with massive points deductions.
And we arnt going to be the surprise package that we were last year.


I'm not wanting to piss on your fire, but it's easy to get carried away before a ball has been kicked in anger.
If you want a reality check, go through that squad, and ask yourself how many of those players would of got into Fulhams starting line up last year.

And it's worth pointing out that a third of our squad havnt made 20 championship starts BETWEEN THEM!!!!
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That’s my thinking too.
I guess a counter argument (I’ve had with myself) is that the majority of our players are possibly going to be improving all the time, so potentially those retained will be even better than last year?
 
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Marty

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #16
Think we need more in CM, once you get past Sheaf and Hamer, we're scraping the barrel a bit, both Allen and Kelly can do jobs at this level, just not constantly and the 2 younger lads are still fairly unknown.
 
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SBT

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #17
Our big problems last season were erratic defending and a lack of proven backup options in midfield. Hard to say we’ve solved either of those at this point.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #18
I would like a specialist rwb in and maybe one more midfielder.

Let's see if robins can get anything over the line
 
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Nick

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #19
covcity4life said:
I would like a specialist rwb in and maybe one more midfielder.

Let's see if robins can get anything over the line
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Obviously depends if we offload Kane or not.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #20
Nick said:
Obviously depends if we offload Kane or not.
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Yeah. Hopefully we do. As a player he's a fine squad player but sounds like it's not a good fit
 

robbiekeane

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #21
Nick said:
Obviously depends if we offload Kane or not.
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Based solely on ability I’d have Kane in the squad as decent cover. There were times last season when he was in better form than Dabo. Good to have them two fighting for a place.

Not if he’s disruptive though
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #22
SBT said:
Our big problems last season were erratic defending and a lack of proven backup options in midfield. Hard to say we’ve solved either of those at this point.
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I’d say we’ve done a good job at solving the erratic defending with the young lads we’ve got in. But yeh asking a lot to have sheaf and Hamer play every game all season but I don’t think we can realistically have a third option who is just as good on our budget
 

covcity4life

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #23
Allen can cover both cm and AMC I guess which could come in handy
 
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Skybluedownunder

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #24
SeaSeeEffCee said:
And have had to spend up to £120m to fix the issue this summer. Doubt we’d be able to afford that if we got promoted.
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They definitely didn’t need to spend what they’ve spent… it’s been excessive!


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SBT

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #25
robbiekeane said:
I’d say we’ve done a good job at solving the erratic defending with the young lads we’ve got in. But yeh asking a lot to have sheaf and Hamer play every game all season but I don’t think we can realistically have a third option who is just as good on our budget
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How much better are Panzo and Doyle going to be than JCS? (Considering that only one of them is likely to be playing at once)

I’m glad we finally have a backup option at LCB, but I’m not convinced that our starting back three has improved much from last season. It might even get worse.
 

Paxman II

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #26
fatso said:
Except that the championship in general is a lot stronger than it was last year.
And your not having 2 teams with massive points deductions.
And we arnt going to be the surprise package that we were last year.


I'm not wanting to piss on your fire, but it's easy to get carried away before a ball has been kicked in anger.
If you want a reality check, go through that squad, and ask yourself how many of those players would of got into Fulhams starting line up last year.

And it's worth pointing out that a third of our squad havnt made 20 championship starts BETWEEN THEM!!!!
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Think we thumped fulham twice last year did we not?
 

robbiekeane

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #27
SBT said:
How much better are Panzo and Doyle going to be than JCS? (Considering that only one of them is likely to be playing at once)

I’m glad we finally have a backup option at LCB, but I’m not convinced that our starting back three has improved much from last season. It might even get worse.
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Think a lot of people have rose tinted glasses with regards to JCS because he’s the one that got away. He was a fantastic tackler on his feet but he also definitely had a clanger in him waiting.

Not seen panzo or Doyle play in pre season but apparently Panzo was class and I know we’ve been after him for a while. Doyle kept saying in his interview that he’s known for being a ball playing defender and comfortable with it at his feet.

Time will tell I guess but I’m confident that’s at least been attempted to be addressed
 

robbiekeane

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #28
Paxman II said:
Think we thumped fulham twice last year did we not?
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Yes AND I am not sure anyone is saying we are going to win the league
 

Tea & Busquets

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #29
robbiekeane said:
Think a lot of people have rose tinted glasses with regards to JCS because he’s the one that got away. He was a fantastic tackler on his feet but he also definitely had a clanger in him waiting.

Not seen panzo or Doyle play in pre season but apparently Panzo was class and I know we’ve been after him for a while. Doyle kept saying in his interview that he’s known for being a ball playing defender and comfortable with it at his feet.

Time will tell I guess but I’m confident that’s at least been attempted to be addressed
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Panzo scored 3 goals from headers. That alone is something we’ve needed.
 

fatso

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #30
Paxman II said:
Think we thumped fulham twice last year did we not?
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We did, so even with them gifting us a 6 point headstart, they still pissed the league!

Our problem was that we are horribly inconsistent, which happens when you have so many inexperienced players and young loanees.

So yes we were able to beat Fulham twice, but then again we had our pants pulled down twice by Luton!
 
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slowpoke

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #31
Our problem last season was not converting early game dominance into points on the board, squad looks okay to me bit inexperienced here and there but once we are up to speed I think we’ll be a decent team and I’d be disappointed if we don’t challenge the top end. Need more goals from areas other than Gyokeres & Godden.
 
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rhino1002

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #32
slowpoke said:
Our problem last season was not converting early game dominance into points on the board, squad looks okay to me bit inexperienced here and there but once we are up to speed I think we’ll be a decent team and I’d be disappointed if we don’t challenge the top end. Need more goals from areas other than Gyokeres & Godden.
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i agree that we need more goals from players other than Gyokeres and Godden
Midfielders should be chipping in with more goals at least 5-6 each
Full backs/Wing back should contribute 3 or 4 goals a season
Dabo has been here for 3 seasons and is still yet to score
 
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Samo

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #33
skyblue1991 said:
Squad looks good but main thing to be concerned of is an increase of loan players which are a short term fix. Probably not likely to sign anyone else permanently unless players are sold

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I think this is strategic and that next summer will be the time to rebuild.
 
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Bad Boy

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #34
rhino1002 said:
i agree that we need more goals from players other than Gyokeres and Godden
Midfielders should be chipping in with more goals at least 5-6 each
Full backs/Wing back should contribute 3 or 4 goals a season
Dabo has been here for 3 seasons and is still yet to score
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Been saying the same for a long time rhino1002.
Central defenders should be scoring 4/5 a season from corners and free kicks, fullbacks weighing in with 2/3, midfield 7/8.
 
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SBT

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  • Jul 27, 2022
  • #35
bad boy said:
Been saying the same for a long time rhino1002.
Central defenders should be scoring 4/5 a season from corners and free kicks, fullbacks weighing in with 2/3, midfield 7/8.
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Only six CBs in the entire division managed more than three goals last season. Of the 17 centre backs who managed three goals, two of them are ours.

Championship - List of goalscorers 21/22

This statistic show the goal scorer list of the Championship in the 21/22, sorted by the amount of goals.
www.transfermarkt.co.uk
 
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