Of the players who started a league game last year, and were here in the first half of the season, I reckon we've lost:
Vincelot 45
Fleck 40
Martin 29
JOB 20
Phillips 17
Maddison 14
MAF 14
Johnson 12
in their place we have
Jones, Turnbull, Bigi, Rose, Reid, Gadzhev, Sordell, K Thomas, Sayoud (although he's more an academy player)
and of course the loans:
Armstrong 38
Murphy 29
Kent 10
Bigi 9
Morris 1
they've been replaced with
Page, Sterry, McCann, Agyei, McBean
Is it the disaster some are making it out to be? Are the players that have come in up to replacing Vincelot, Fleck, Martin, JOB, Armstrong and Murphy? Not sure the loss of the others will really make much difference. Not to say that we haven't lost good players just that, through injury, they didn't feature much.
And of course we can still pick up free agents or anyone who gets released.
Key for me is to stay in touch with the play offs until the window opens again and see what Mowbray and Venus can do next time round.
Still wish we'd have kept Martin mind.......
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I think that adds to a lot of people's perception that we're weaker. For example it's easy to forget Fleck's weaknesses because you're picking him for his strengths when listing your starting XI whereas with new players they still have everything to prove to people. So the natural feeling is we're weaker.Hope it is stronger.
TBH I hadn't heard of many of the players we have brought in so can't comment if they will be any good or not.
I happened to watch the Sheff Utd V Oxford game last week.
Martin was on the subs bench and came on at HT.
He looked the same as he did at City-a big lump that gets bullied.
Oxford went from being 1-0 up to losing game 2-1. Both goals Martin out of position and in the build up he'd got beaten in the air by a player a lot smaller than him.
Martin is just too nice, he hasn't got a vicious side and positioning all over the place.
Great decision to let him go, just like Phillips.
In went in off Ferguson's beard....
Just had a quick look at a sheffield united forum to find out what they think about Fleck. Got sidetracked by a thread on Chris Hussey and it appears he's been found out already.
They've already realised he's the next Bale?Got sidetracked by a thread on Chris Hussey and it appears he's been found out already.
Let's be honest, Fleck had done his time here and both parties need a fresh challenge. I felt it was a big season for him last year, to put himself in the shop window. It never really happened.
The January or summer transfer to the Championship never happened...sideways move to Sheffield United.
Of the players who started a league game last year, and were here in the first half of the season, I reckon we've lost:
Vincelot 45
Fleck 40
Martin 29
JOB 20
Phillips 17
Maddison 14
MAF 14
Johnson 12
in their place we have
Jones, Turnbull, Bigi, Rose, Reid, Gadzhev, Sordell, K Thomas, Sayoud (although he's more an academy player)
and of course the loans:
Armstrong 38
Murphy 29
Kent 10
Bigi 9
Morris 1
they've been replaced with
Page, Sterry, McCann, Agyei, McBean
One or more championship clubs made contact in January though. Strange that he didn't go then or that we didn't cash in.
Martin so overated by some of our dumb fansI happened to watch the Sheff Utd V Oxford game last week.
Martin was on the subs bench and came on at HT.
He looked the same as he did at City-a big lump that gets bullied.
Oxford went from being 1-0 up to losing game 2-1. Both goals Martin out of position and in the build up he'd got beaten in the air by a player a lot smaller than him.
Martin is just too nice, he hasn't got a vicious side and positioning all over the place.
Great decision to let him go, just like Phillips.
In went in off Ferguson's beard....
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Martin so overated by some of our dumb fans
All I know is Phillips must be better than sterry!Quite telling that neither Aaron started for their respective new clubs last weekend.
All I know is Phillips must be better than sterry!
Sisu havw ruined this squad! Last season was perfect after all. No moaning last season...
Where do you think we'll finish this season?
Clearly based on last year it's poorer. League table speaks volumesOf the players who started a league game last year, and were here in the first half of the season, I reckon we've lost:
Vincelot 45
Fleck 40
Martin 29
JOB 20
Phillips 17
Maddison 14
MAF 14
Johnson 12
in their place we have
Jones, Turnbull, Bigi, Rose, Reid, Gadzhev, Sordell, K Thomas, Sayoud (although he's more an academy player)
and of course the loans:
Armstrong 38
Murphy 29
Kent 10
Bigi 9
Morris 1
they've been replaced with
Page, Sterry, McCann, Agyei, McBean
Is it the disaster some are making it out to be? Are the players that have come in up to replacing Vincelot, Fleck, Martin, JOB, Armstrong and Murphy? Not sure the loss of the others will really make much difference. Not to say that we haven't lost good players just that, through injury, they didn't feature much.
And of course we can still pick up free agents or anyone who gets released.
Key for me is to stay in touch with the play offs until the window opens again and see what Mowbray and Venus can do next time round.
Clearly based on last year it's poorer. League table speaks volumes
Does it mean that Sheff Utd have the 3rd worst squad in the league?
Because the league table speaks volumes....What has Sheffield Utd got to do with us? This time last season we were top 4 just beat burton away. Now we're bottom 4. We've scored 2 goals in the league in 6 games. That stat alone shows how poorer the team is this season compared to last.
What has Sheffield Utd got to do with us? This time last season we were top 4 just beat burton away. Now we're bottom 4. We've scored 2 goals in the league in 6 games. That stat alone shows how poorer the team is this season compared to last.
yes it does but I'm comparing Cov not Sheffield utd. This thread is about our squad being better compared to last season? So far The table clearly shows it's not as good. Time will tell but based on performances and results no way near as good as last seasons team. That is a factBecause the league table speaks volumes....
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