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Spain v England U21 European Championship Qtr Final. (2 Viewers)

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oscillatewildly

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  • Saturday at 10:03 PM
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Wished I'd started this thread prior to the KO.
Anyway, yet another well drilled performance to see the Spanish off.
Nice little cameo from Norton Cuffey.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Saturday at 10:13 PM
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Spain took that badly
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Saturday at 10:17 PM
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Somebody must have mentioned Gibraltar.
 
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wingy

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  • Saturday at 10:37 PM
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They've had enough of all our tourists!!
 
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wingy

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  • Saturday at 10:39 PM
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Big shift that was but got to it late, was a tad surprised that he got away with the penalty claim and did wonder about the one for us?
 

SBAndy

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  • Saturday at 11:07 PM
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Gutted we didn’t sign Charlie Cresswell a couple of years ago. Absolute rock. Hilarious when he had about 4 of them at once during the antics at the end.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Saturday at 11:52 PM
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If Carsley wins the U21 Euros again… surely he’s the man post-Tuchel to take the role.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Sunday at 1:03 AM
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Mucca Mad Boys said:
If Carsley wins the U21 Euros again… surely he’s the man post-Tuchel to take the role.
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Apples and oranges.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Sunday at 1:04 PM
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oscillatewildly said:
Apples and oranges.
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Well, his stint with the first team was good minus one blip following an experimental team.

Frankly speaking, the best international managers do not tend to be elite managers from the club game. It seems England fans in particular are obsessed with having ‘elite’ managers.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Sunday at 7:32 PM
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Mucca Mad Boys said:
Well, his stint with the first team was good minus one blip following an experimental team.

Frankly speaking, the best international managers do not tend to be elite managers from the club game. It seems England fans in particular are obsessed with having ‘elite’ managers.
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I have nothing against Carsley, in fact he was one of very few who I genuinely warmed to as a possible replacement for MR.
It would just appear that the leap from a junior level of international football management to the senior level is one that the powers that be consider to be a bridge too far.
See also Peter Taylor.
 

SBAndy

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  • Sunday at 8:08 PM
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oscillatewildly said:
I have nothing against Carsley, in fact he was one of very few who I genuinely warmed to as a possible replacement for MR.
It would just appear that the leap from a junior level of international football management to the senior level is one that the powers that be consider to be a bridge too far.
See also Peter Taylor.
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See also Luis De La Fuente…oh.
 

Alkhen

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  • Sunday at 8:36 PM
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Just watching Germany v Italy in the Semis. Germany's shirt is quality

 
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wingy

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  • Sunday at 8:45 PM
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Brighton's signing that Italian Coppello looks good business.
And that winger who's now played for three team's look's useful,but he won't finish the game the amount they're using him.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Sunday at 9:45 PM
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Is this apparent strict level of officiating at this level a benefit to these players development? Because it certainly isn't for the game in general.
Just seen Gnonto's straight red for a late challenge - Again in mine (might be an age thing) but hopefully in the vast majority of fellow observers, no more than a yellow.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Sunday at 9:48 PM
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oscillatewildly said:
Is this apparent strict level of officiating at this level a benefit to these players development? Because it certainly isn't for the game in general.
Just seen Gnonto's straight red for a late challenge - Again in mine (might be an age thing) but hopefully in the vast majority of fellow observers, no more than a yellow.
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And there we go again!
 
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wingy

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  • Sunday at 9:49 PM
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And that.
 

Alkhen

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  • Sunday at 9:53 PM
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Wow, I love football sometimes!
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Sunday at 9:54 PM
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How on earth did this second half happen from the first?
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Sunday at 9:55 PM
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SBAndy said:
See also Luis De La Fuente…oh.
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Well there's your one.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sunday at 11:15 PM
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Alkhen said:
Just watching Germany v Italy in the Semis. Germany's shirt is quality

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Looks like the vests I used to have to wear when I was kid.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Yesterday at 9:41 AM
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oscillatewildly said:
Well there's your one.
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The last World Cup and Euro winning teams have managers who were their national team’s U21/20 team managers before. Even Southgate, for all his faults, lead to our best results in tournaments came from the U21s.

Then consider winning managers like Löw and Santos had experience in the international setup either internally or with other nations.

The managers with success at club football, like Deschamps and Mancini, wouldn’t be considered ‘elite’ in the club game when they become international managers.

Final point, Germany have tried hiring elite managers like Nagelsmann and Flick, with both of them failing to get deep into tournaments. Nagelsmann gets the BOD for losing to Spain but as a host nation…

Hiring managers with international experience seems to be a better route to success than elite club managers new to the international scene.

The FA probably panicked when Carsley lost to Greece to hire Tuchel. Carsley also gave some odd responses in the media so perhaps the senior role was perhaps too soon.
 
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