Gynnsthetonic
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Because he's the Prime Minister allegedly, he was telling the judges what sentences to hand out
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Gynnsthetonic
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No he didn't, he got 5 and a half years.
Gynnsthetonic
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Sky Blue Pete
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False equivalence they haven’t admitted inciting racial hatred
Yes and this woman is to serve a year.
Busy man!
Sky Blue Pete
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What I don’t understand is what has two tier justice or starmer making his speech on far right hate speech got to do with someone pleading guilty to inciting racial hatred
Why aren’t they picking on the solicitor who gave such shocking advice?
Sky Blue Pete
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Nothing to do with starmer it’s a Tory givebrment set of legislation
I have great trouble someone being imprisoned for what is said but this has to have boundaries
Fundamentally though you’d hope a good solicitor would be able to show that there was no incitement behind the words however hideous and offensive
Gynnsthetonic
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Sky Blue Pete
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He was not that would be a huge over reach
I have no problem with the government doing all in its power to bring the rioting to swift conclusion but the judiciary are a-political
Sky Blue Pete
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That’s true and I think right
Which surprises me again what the appeal was and on what ground was it refused
31 months is less than 66 months.
12 months is less than 25 months.
Absolutely nobody is putting them on a par except you.
rob9872
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Whatever the denial, clearly she is a racist (they almost went for the 'but I've got a black friend') and she's not a very nice person, but plenty of other racists and other horrible people who get far less. She'll lose her job, will be forever tarnished, has received her shock sentence and I see no benefit to anyone in keeping her locked up.
Tbh I do think it's a bit much to lock anyone up on either side of any divide for a few hurty words, but if that's the law then so be it. However full prisons supposedly and I'd much rather resources were spent on catching, killers, rapists and nonces.
Tbh I do think it's a bit much to lock anyone up on either side of any divide for a few hurty words, but if that's the law then so be it. However full prisons supposedly and I'd much rather resources were spent on catching, killers, rapists and nonces.
Sky Blue Pete
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Again I think the point is correct the sentences are incomparable for the action but that doesn’t take into account what was happening or what Lucy Connolly was advised to plead guilty too
on a Facebook group someone said they’d read that 30000 current prisoners were guilty of social media comments
that’s the level of fuckwittery and nonsense people will believe
only 1500 were convicted in the last 12 months and when the country isn’t in the middle of rioting nightly I doubt the others received prison time
We can both acknowledge that it’s inhumane for this woman’s child to not have her with her for almost a year and still think that when someone pleads guilty to inciting racial hatred and people around the country are throwing bricks at police and setting fire to hotels that a prison sentence is appropriate
Sky Blue Pete
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Interesting comment the three judges said the sentence wasn’t manifestly wrong and …
"was substantially based on a version of events put forward by the applicant which we have rejected".
"was substantially based on a version of events put forward by the applicant which we have rejected".
Yeah she knew full well what she was doing:
The court heard that the day before Connolly was arrested, she sent a WhatsApp message saying the “raging tweet about burning down hotels has bit me on the arse lol”.
She also said she would “play the mental health card” if arrested, and would deny responsibility for the post if asked.
rob9872
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Yet Tommy Robinson who has served less due out imminently. Yes I understand different crimes and sentences, but to compare the two and leave one in and release the other, you have to question the sensibility.
Sky Blue Pete
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Yep agreed
Cause very few ‘middle class’ people ever have any experience of court or the law lots seems contradictory or out of date or unfair
rob9872
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Surely bravado though. This was unprecedented and nobody could've forseen what was to follow or the sentences passed. Presumably and hopefully a deterrent for the future to others, although the cunts that threw bricks at the police obviously have no rationale and I'd wager would do so again at any other civil disorder.
fernandopartridge
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She was told she'd serve 40% of her sentence as well
Gynnsthetonic
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The only good thing is it will just point more people towards Reform and consign Labour to the dustbin
Sick Boy
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So you don't think the laws of the land should apply? Is it a Reform policy to revoke them?
Gynnsthetonic
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So your happy with that. They released prisoners early so proper criminals out and replaced them with people like her. Glad your happy
rob9872
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Disagree. Until there is proportional representation it will push more of the centre right further to the right but ultimately split the vote further and in a three party split will give Labour continued control.
Gynnsthetonic
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What putting nasty things on the Internet after one of the worst atrocities this country has ever seen. Lineker can do it and get away with it.
Sick Boy
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He can do what and get away with it? Aren't you talking about the woman encouraging people to burn down hotels and effectively murder people?
rob9872
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I blame Eni Aluko
Captain Dart
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It has been said she took the legal advice to plead guilty believing it was the surest and quickest way to return to her family life and 12 yr old daughter, but it was turned out to be quite the opposite.
Sick Boy
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It's ironic that people go on about people coming to the UK should respect it's laws etc but don't actually like it when they're applied.
Sky Blue Pete
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Wow
The transcript is really eye opening
The appeal is that the solicitor misled her which is utterly rejected
They found Lucy Connolly evidence on the important matters to be incredible.
Hugely badly informed and an eye opener for anyone else who thinks they can publicly say what they like without consequence
Hard lesson to learn though
The transcript is really eye opening
The appeal is that the solicitor misled her which is utterly rejected
They found Lucy Connolly evidence on the important matters to be incredible.
Hugely badly informed and an eye opener for anyone else who thinks they can publicly say what they like without consequence
Hard lesson to learn though
Sky Blue Pete
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How??
Please read the judgement and then come back and explain how this is on the government in any way