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Joy Division

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  • Yesterday at 12:00 PM
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DT-R said:
so the fact they've not announced anything yet suggests to me they're clearly middle Eastern, more than likely been given leave to stay recently.

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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 12:01 PM
  • #4,307
Saddlebrains said:
Was there?

I recall different, no one gave a shit because they worked and paid tax
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how old were you 20 years ago out of curiosity.
 
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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 12:01 PM
  • #4,308
DT-R said:
Not white! If they were white/British, it would've been announced immediately to "stop racial tensions arising" so the fact they've not announced anything yet suggests to me they're clearly middle Eastern, more than likely been given leave to stay recently.

But the same old people will come along and call me racist and say that we cant jump to conclusions.

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You do realise you could avoid getting this angry by reading even just one article about this story in the past hour?
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Yesterday at 12:02 PM
  • #4,309
Ccfcisparks said:
how old were you 20 years ago out of curiosity.
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16
 
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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 12:05 PM
  • #4,310
Saddlebrains said:
Was there?

I recall different, no one gave a shit because they worked and paid tax
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If you honestly don’t remember this kind of stuff then no wonder you think the world is worse today.
 
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DT-R

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  • Yesterday at 12:05 PM
  • #4,311
Ccfcisparks said:
They are black british.
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I mean, Axel Rudibicana or however you spell it was black British. Lee Rigbys murderers were black British.

They throw the "British" part in there to make it sound like its not Islamic terror related.

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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 12:06 PM
  • #4,312
DT-R said:
I mean, Axel Rudibicana or however you spell it was black British. Lee Rigbys murderers were black British.

They throw the "British" part in there to make it sound like its not Islamic terror related.

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We dont know either way yet if its islamic or not
 
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PVA

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  • Yesterday at 12:06 PM
  • #4,313
DT-R said:
Not white! If they were white/British, it would've been announced immediately to "stop racial tensions arising" so the fact they've not announced anything yet suggests to me they're clearly middle Eastern, more than likely been given leave to stay recently.

But the same old people will come along and call me racist and say that we cant jump to conclusions.

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It was announced they were born in the UK to stop social media going into overdrive about Muslims and immigrants. Didn't stop plenty of people though.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Yesterday at 12:08 PM
  • #4,314
DT-R said:
I mean, Axel Rudibicana or however you spell it was black British. Lee Rigbys murderers were black British.

They throw the "British" part in there to make it sound like its not Islamic terror related.

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You saying black people aren't British? You also said they were "middle eastern" which they are not.
 

rob9872

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  • Yesterday at 12:08 PM
  • #4,315
SBT said:
If you honestly don’t remember this kind of stuff then no wonder you think the world is worse today.
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To be fair to him, it's only one example, but my mates Mrs is Polish, she's been here about 20 years and always worked, but even she is fed up of how things have changed in that time and looking now to return to Poland. Originally she came here for a better standard of living. As soon as my mate has a bit more grasp of the language, they'll be off.
 
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DT-R

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  • Yesterday at 12:09 PM
  • #4,316
PVA said:
It was announced they were born in the UK to stop social media going into overdrive about Muslims and immigrants. Didn't stop plenty of people though.
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They announced Axel Rudibicana was born in Wales too, to stop social media coming to conclusions, but those conclusions were still true! The fact the media and government tried to hide what he was, was so disrespectful to those little girls and their families!

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David O'Day

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  • Yesterday at 12:10 PM
  • #4,317
DT-R said:
They announced Axel Rudibicana was born in Wales too, to stop social media coming to conclusions, but those conclusions were still true! The fact the media and government tried to hide what he was, was so disrespectful to those little girls and their families!

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The social media conclusions about him were that he was a muslim immigrant when he was someone of no real religion born in the uk to a christian family
 
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DT-R

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  • Yesterday at 12:11 PM
  • #4,318
David O'Day said:
You saying black people aren't British? You also said they were "middle eastern" which they are not.
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I never said they were, I said it suggested they were.
I also never said black people arent British. Im saying, they throw the British part in to it to diffuse tensions with Islamic communities. Because if theyre British, theyre clearly not Islamic terrorists? When in fact, all these people were exactly that. Being born in Britain doesn't change that.

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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 12:12 PM
  • #4,319
The police really are on a hiding to nothing with this new transparency on suspect ethnicity if this is the kind of conspiratorial stuff they’re up against
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Yesterday at 12:12 PM
  • #4,320
David O'Day said:
The social media conclusions about him were that he was a muslim immigrant when he was someone of no real religion born in the uk to a christian family
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The son of the Rwandan warlord given British status
 
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PVA

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  • Yesterday at 12:13 PM
  • #4,321
SBT said:
The police really are on a hiding to nothing with this new transparency on suspect ethnicity if this is the kind of conspiratorial stuff they’re up against
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It's nuts. They can't win can they.
 

rob9872

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  • Yesterday at 12:14 PM
  • #4,322
David O'Day said:
The social media conclusions about him were that he was a muslim immigrant when he was someone of no real religion born in the uk to a christian family
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Agreed that was wrong, but equally the photo put out of him like butter wouldn't melt and the portrayal in yhe media of the Welsh Choir boy and how could this happen was just as absurd, when he was on watch lists.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 12:16 PM
  • #4,323
Gynnsthetonic said:
The son of the Rwandan warlord given British status
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Was he really a warlord. Can you share the article on that. Thats shocking if true.
 

Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 12:16 PM
  • #4,324
PVA said:
It's nuts. They can't win can they.
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Wasn’t it the Liverpool incident when it first happened and the government advised this should continue?
 
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David O'Day

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  • Yesterday at 12:17 PM
  • #4,325
DT-R said:
I never said they were, I said it suggested they were.
I also never said black people arent British. Im saying, they throw the British part in to it to diffuse tensions with Islamic communities. Because if theyre British, theyre clearly not Islamic terrorists? When in fact, all these people were exactly that. Being born in Britain doesn't change that.

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Nothing suggested they were middle eastern though.

The southport killer wasn't related to islam? Why are you saying it was?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Yesterday at 12:17 PM
  • #4,326
SBT said:
The police really are on a hiding to nothing with this new transparency on suspect ethnicity if this is the kind of conspiratorial stuff they’re up against
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Ah yes the police , who famously havent let people down because they fear backlash on race or religion

Maybe they should just be honest every time that would help.
Trust doesnt happen overnight
 
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David O'Day

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  • Yesterday at 12:19 PM
  • #4,327
Ccfcisparks said:
Was he really a warlord. Can you share the article on that. Thats shocking if true.
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Alphonse Rudakubana wasn't a warlord. He was an officer in the Rwanda Patriotic Army, the force that fought to end the Rwandan Genocide and basically the people who the last government wanted to send immigrants to.
 
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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 12:19 PM
  • #4,328
Evo1883 said:
Ah yes the police , who famously havent let people down because they fear backlash on race or religion

Maybe they should just be honest every time , that would help.
Trust doesnt happen overnight
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What am I missing here? They’ve changed their policy in the face of public outcry and released the ethnicity of the suspects at the earliest opportunity, but you’re still not happy?
 
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PVA

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  • Yesterday at 12:19 PM
  • #4,329
David O'Day said:
Nothing suggested they were middle eastern though.
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His X feed probably suggested it.
 

Evo1883

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  • Yesterday at 12:20 PM
  • #4,330
SBT said:
What am I missing here? They’ve changed their policy in the face of public outcry and released the ethnicity of the suspects at the earliest opportunity, but you’re still not happy?
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And im suggesting public trust in the establishment is rock bottom and rightly so
 
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rob9872

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  • Yesterday at 12:21 PM
  • #4,331
What I have noticed, is that every single one of these events that are being argued about, was committed by a man. The answer therefore, is surround yourself by women and you might even get stinky fingers.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Yesterday at 12:28 PM
  • #4,332
Saddlebrains said:
Was there?

I recall different, no one gave a shit because they worked and paid tax
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Sorry but that’s utter bollocks.
 
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SBT

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  • Yesterday at 12:28 PM
  • #4,333
Evo1883 said:
And im suggesting public trust in the establishment is rock bottom and rightly so
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Fair enough - I personally think the greater transparency from the police is a good thing. But there are clearly some people who will never be satisfied.
 

Evo1883

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  • Yesterday at 12:30 PM
  • #4,334
SBT said:
Fair enough - I personally think the greater transparency from the police is a good thing. But there are clearly some people who will never be satisfied.
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Its a good thing
 

Marty

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  • Yesterday at 12:30 PM
  • #4,335
rob9872 said:
To be fair to him, it's only one example, but my mates Mrs is Polish, she's been here about 20 years and always worked, but even she is fed up of how things have changed in that time and looking now to return to Poland. Originally she came here for a better standard of living. As soon as my mate has a bit more grasp of the language, they'll be off.
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What part? We're seriously looking at it too.
 
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rob9872

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  • Yesterday at 12:31 PM
  • #4,336
Marty said:
What part? We're seriously looking at it too.
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Near Krakow, back to where her family are.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Yesterday at 12:35 PM
  • #4,337
Marty said:
What part? We're seriously looking at it too.
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Why aren't Poland, Czechia, Hungary, Slovakia etc not suffering with these awful atrocities i wonder
 
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Macca

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  • Yesterday at 12:36 PM
  • #4,338
Worry folks it's not terrorism related apparently just some gentle stabbing
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 12:38 PM
  • #4,339
Ccfcisparks said:
We dont know either way yet if its islamic or not
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Very unlikely not many Muslims in the Caribbean I don’t think
Not out the question of course
 

DT-R

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  • Yesterday at 12:38 PM
  • #4,340
David O'Day said:
Nothing suggested they were middle eastern though.

The southport killer wasn't related to islam? Why are you saying it was?
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He downloaded an Al-Qaeda training manual ffs! How much more Islam do you need to get?

Also, both of Lee Rigbys murderers were british born Christians, that murdered a British soldier on the streets to the name of Allah! So saying he was Christian doesnt even wash anymore!

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