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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Tuesday at 2:19 PM
  • #3,921
fernandopartridge said:
She pleaded guilty? What's it got to do with Starmer?
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Because he's the Prime Minister allegedly, he was telling the judges what sentences to hand out
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Tuesday at 2:22 PM
  • #3,922
PVA said:
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She didn't fck about, a few little hurty words on the Internet. Anjem Choudry got less for supporting Islamic State. Handy when your a trained solicitor
 
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PVA

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  • Tuesday at 2:28 PM
  • #3,923
Gynnsthetonic said:
She didn't fck about, a few little hurty words on the Internet. Anjem Choudry got less for supporting Islamic State. Handy when your a trained solicitor
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No he didn't, he got 5 and a half years.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Tuesday at 2:32 PM
  • #3,924
PVA said:
No he didn't, he got 5 and a half years.
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He served just over 2 years getting let out early
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Tuesday at 2:34 PM
  • #3,925
Gynnsthetonic said:
What a waste of resources, I'm sure she's served long enough, what good is it doing with her locked up inside. Meanwhile Ricky Jones walks free so do the 2 pakistani airport attackers. Its all so wrong.
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False equivalence they haven’t admitted inciting racial hatred
 
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PVA

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  • Tuesday at 2:37 PM
  • #3,926
Gynnsthetonic said:
He served just over 2 years getting let out early
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Yes and this woman is to serve a year.
 
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SBT

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  • Tuesday at 2:38 PM
  • #3,927
Gynnsthetonic said:
Because he's the Prime Minister allegedly, he was telling the judges what sentences to hand out
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Busy man!
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Tuesday at 2:40 PM
  • #3,928
Gynnsthetonic said:
Lucy Connelly got fast tracked the others havnt that's what I'm on about!
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What I don’t understand is what has two tier justice or starmer making his speech on far right hate speech got to do with someone pleading guilty to inciting racial hatred
Why aren’t they picking on the solicitor who gave such shocking advice?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Tuesday at 2:42 PM
  • #3,929
Gynnsthetonic said:
A school teacher and mother of a young child. She said something in the heat of the moment which she then took down. It's pathetic and just being made an example of. How many hotels got burnt down on her say so, none. Starmer is just a c**t. Two tiers example at its finest!
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Nothing to do with starmer it’s a Tory givebrment set of legislation
I have great trouble someone being imprisoned for what is said but this has to have boundaries

Fundamentally though you’d hope a good solicitor would be able to show that there was no incitement behind the words however hideous and offensive
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Tuesday at 2:42 PM
  • #3,930
PVA said:
Yes and this woman is to serve a year.
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So you put these 2 on a par then, both similar characters?
 
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wingy

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  • Tuesday at 2:43 PM
  • #3,931
SBT said:
Busy man!
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It's storing up problems in the future and everyone involved in these particular cases,or most of them have served enough time and need to be released, not blight their lives forever,a short sharp shock is all that was required and that point has passed by now.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Tuesday at 2:44 PM
  • #3,932
Gynnsthetonic said:
Because he's the Prime Minister allegedly, he was telling the judges what sentences to hand out
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He was not that would be a huge over reach
I have no problem with the government doing all in its power to bring the rioting to swift conclusion but the judiciary are a-political
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Tuesday at 2:47 PM
  • #3,933
wingy said:
It's storing up problems in the future and everyone involved in these particular cases,or most of them have served enough time and need to be released, not blight their lives forever,a short sharp shock is all that was required and that point has passed by now.
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That’s true and I think right
Which surprises me again what the appeal was and on what ground was it refused
 
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PVA

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  • Tuesday at 2:50 PM
  • #3,934
Gynnsthetonic said:
So you put these 2 on a par then, both similar characters?
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31 months is less than 66 months.

12 months is less than 25 months.


Absolutely nobody is putting them on a par except you.
 

rob9872

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  • Tuesday at 2:54 PM
  • #3,935
Whatever the denial, clearly she is a racist (they almost went for the 'but I've got a black friend') and she's not a very nice person, but plenty of other racists and other horrible people who get far less. She'll lose her job, will be forever tarnished, has received her shock sentence and I see no benefit to anyone in keeping her locked up.

Tbh I do think it's a bit much to lock anyone up on either side of any divide for a few hurty words, but if that's the law then so be it. However full prisons supposedly and I'd much rather resources were spent on catching, killers, rapists and nonces.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Tuesday at 2:56 PM
  • #3,936
PVA said:
31 months is less than 66 months.

12 months is less than 25 months.


Absolutely nobody is putting them on a par except you.
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Again I think the point is correct the sentences are incomparable for the action but that doesn’t take into account what was happening or what Lucy Connolly was advised to plead guilty too

on a Facebook group someone said they’d read that 30000 current prisoners were guilty of social media comments

that’s the level of fuckwittery and nonsense people will believe

only 1500 were convicted in the last 12 months and when the country isn’t in the middle of rioting nightly I doubt the others received prison time

We can both acknowledge that it’s inhumane for this woman’s child to not have her with her for almost a year and still think that when someone pleads guilty to inciting racial hatred and people around the country are throwing bricks at police and setting fire to hotels that a prison sentence is appropriate
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Tuesday at 3:00 PM
  • #3,937
Interesting comment the three judges said the sentence wasn’t manifestly wrong and …

"was substantially based on a version of events put forward by the applicant which we have rejected".
 
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PVA

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  • Tuesday at 3:03 PM
  • #3,938
rob9872 said:
Whatever the denial, clearly she is a racist (they almost went for the 'but I've got a black friend') and she's not a very nice person, but plenty of other racists and other horrible people who get far less. She'll lose her job, will be forever tarnished, has received her shock sentence and I see no benefit to anyone in keeping her locked up.
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Yeah she knew full well what she was doing:

The court heard that the day before Connolly was arrested, she sent a WhatsApp message saying the “raging tweet about burning down hotels has bit me on the arse lol”.

She also said she would “play the mental health card” if arrested, and would deny responsibility for the post if asked.
 

rob9872

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  • Tuesday at 3:04 PM
  • #3,939
Sky Blue Pete said:
Interesting comment the three judges said the sentence wasn’t manifestly wrong and …

"was substantially based on a version of events put forward by the applicant which we have rejected".
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Yet Tommy Robinson who has served less due out imminently. Yes I understand different crimes and sentences, but to compare the two and leave one in and release the other, you have to question the sensibility.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Tuesday at 3:04 PM
  • #3,940
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Lucy-Connolly-v-The-King.pdf
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Tuesday at 3:06 PM
  • #3,941
rob9872 said:
Yet Tommy Robinson who has served less due out imminently. Yes I understand different crimes and sentences, but to compare the two and leave one in and release the other, you have to question the sensibility.
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Yep agreed
Cause very few ‘middle class’ people ever have any experience of court or the law lots seems contradictory or out of date or unfair
 
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rob9872

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  • Tuesday at 3:06 PM
  • #3,942
PVA said:
Yeah she knew full well what she was doing:

The court heard that the day before Connolly was arrested, she sent a WhatsApp message saying the “raging tweet about burning down hotels has bit me on the arse lol”.

She also said she would “play the mental health card” if arrested, and would deny responsibility for the post if asked.
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Surely bravado though. This was unprecedented and nobody could've forseen what was to follow or the sentences passed. Presumably and hopefully a deterrent for the future to others, although the cunts that threw bricks at the police obviously have no rationale and I'd wager would do so again at any other civil disorder.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Tuesday at 3:08 PM
  • #3,943
Gynnsthetonic said:
He served just over 2 years getting let out early
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She was told she'd serve 40% of her sentence as well
 

Gynnsthetonic

Well-Known Member
  • Tuesday at 3:08 PM
  • #3,944
The only good thing is it will just point more people towards Reform and consign Labour to the dustbin
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Tuesday at 3:09 PM
  • #3,945
Gynnsthetonic said:
The only good thing is it will just point more people towards Reform and consign Labour to the dustbin
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So you don't think the laws of the land should apply? Is it a Reform policy to revoke them?
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Tuesday at 3:10 PM
  • #3,946
fernandopartridge said:
She was told she'd serve 40% of her sentence as well
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So your happy with that. They released prisoners early so proper criminals out and replaced them with people like her. Glad your happy
 

rob9872

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  • Tuesday at 3:10 PM
  • #3,947
Gynnsthetonic said:
The only good thing is it will just point more people towards Reform and consign Labour to the dustbin
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Disagree. Until there is proportional representation it will push more of the centre right further to the right but ultimately split the vote further and in a three party split will give Labour continued control.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Tuesday at 3:12 PM
  • #3,948
Sick Boy said:
So you don't think the laws of the land should apply? Is it a Reform policy to revoke them?
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What putting nasty things on the Internet after one of the worst atrocities this country has ever seen. Lineker can do it and get away with it.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Tuesday at 3:17 PM
  • #3,949
Gynnsthetonic said:
What putting nasty things on the Internet after one of the worst atrocities this country has ever seen. Lineker can do it and get away with it.
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He can do what and get away with it? Aren't you talking about the woman encouraging people to burn down hotels and effectively murder people?
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Tuesday at 3:20 PM
  • #3,950
Sick Boy said:
He can do what and get away with it? Aren't you talking about the woman encouraging people to burn down hotels and effectively murder people?
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I blame Eni Aluko
 

Captain Dart

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  • Tuesday at 3:23 PM
  • #3,951
Sky Blue Pete said:
What I don’t understand is what has two tier justice or starmer making his speech on far right hate speech got to do with someone pleading guilty to inciting racial hatred
Why aren’t they picking on the solicitor who gave such shocking advice?
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It has been said she took the legal advice to plead guilty believing it was the surest and quickest way to return to her family life and 12 yr old daughter, but it was turned out to be quite the opposite.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Tuesday at 3:29 PM
  • #3,952
Captain Dart said:
It has been said she took the legal advice to plead guilty believing it was the surest and quickest way to return to her family life and 12 yr old daughter, but it was turned out to be quite the opposite.
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It's ironic that people go on about people coming to the UK should respect it's laws etc but don't actually like it when they're applied.
 
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PVA

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  • Tuesday at 3:32 PM
  • #3,953
Captain Dart said:
It has been said she took the legal advice to plead guilty believing it was the surest and quickest way to return to her family life and 12 yr old daughter, but it was turned out to be quite the opposite.
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Of course she's guilty, it's right there in black and white
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Tuesday at 3:40 PM
  • #3,954
Wow

The transcript is really eye opening

The appeal is that the solicitor misled her which is utterly rejected

They found Lucy Connolly evidence on the important matters to be incredible.

Hugely badly informed and an eye opener for anyone else who thinks they can publicly say what they like without consequence

Hard lesson to learn though
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Tuesday at 3:41 PM
  • #3,955
Gynnsthetonic said:
The only good thing is it will just point more people towards Reform and consign Labour to the dustbin
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How??
Please read the judgement and then come back and explain how this is on the government in any way
 
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