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Match Thread Southampton - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 20th Dec (352 Viewers)

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shepardo01

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  • Yesterday at 6:12 PM
  • #281
SwanLane said:
Hoping the speculation about missing players tomorrow is just mind games from FL. In general, elite athletes have a slightly lower immunity while training intensively according to various stuff I remember reading. Sorry, no links as got to head to the pub
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It's not. EMC let it be known in the press conference also.

This is a tough tough ask at full strength.
If we aren't - I fear a bit of a struggle.
 

torchomatic

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  • Yesterday at 6:21 PM
  • #282
Brighton Sky Blue said:
EMC said it in the presser
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Ah, OK. Fair enough. As long as it's not Grimes or Rushworth. Or Jay. Or Kitch. Or Thomas. Or Torp.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Yesterday at 6:23 PM
  • #283
mmttww said:
do you mean to be this ironic? satirical maybe?
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You are really in no position to lecture other people on their behaviour.
 

Captain Dart

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  • Yesterday at 6:37 PM
  • #284
blunted said:
That is bollocks. 90%? no way is that accurate, just some online bullshit. It is a surprisingly high number considering their profession and experiences but interestingly the numbers are not often published.
Flu kills people, as does Covid. The "Spanish" Flu epidemic killed millions, peculiarly mainly young, fully fit, healthy people. That strain never went away and only vaccination will protect you. Covid much the same, only the "at risk" suffered worse.
Polio used to be a common illness that has been virtually eradicated by vaccination. See also Measles that can kill children or send them blind, lead to brain damage and immunity problems with other diseases. Cases were falling dramatically but are on the rise due to the Kennedy stupidity in the USA..
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How can Kennedy have had any effect in the less than one year he has been HHS?
Clearly the cases in the USA are by and large in the already vaccinated population.

Johns Hopkins University claims the MMR vaccination rates in the USA in 2025 were 92.5% (and the AI answer below about 2025 MMR rates concurs) and there have been many years where the rates have been lower without any outbreaks. I did an AI search and these were the numbers I got.






What do you think about the measles case numbers from Canada? Their vaccination rates are high too but they have 3 times the number of cases there than in the USA in a much smaller population. Canada loses measles elimination status, with US on track to follow

It seem to me that the new strain around in the Americas breaks through the vaccinations and there is no obvious effect caused by the current administration's stance. In fact Kennedy not that long ago said in the linked post on X that "The most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine,"


Anyway it wasn't me that started this aside, can we get back to FOOTBALL PLEASE.
 
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wingy

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  • Yesterday at 6:42 PM
  • #285
torchomatic said:
Ah, OK. Fair enough. As long as it's not Grimes or Rushworth. Or Jay. Or Kitch. Or Thomas. Or Torp.
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A bit of blitz spirit should do us good, I've suddenly realised I've been a right negative pillock in my general demeanor so this is a positive one,we will win, the god's will be with us!
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Yesterday at 6:43 PM
  • #286
blunted said:
That is bollocks. 90%? no way is that accurate, just some online bullshit. It is a surprisingly high number considering their profession and experiences but interestingly the numbers are not often published.
Flu kills people, as does Covid. The "Spanish" Flu epidemic killed millions, peculiarly mainly young, fully fit, healthy people. That strain never went away and only vaccination will protect you. Covid much the same, only the "at risk" suffered worse.
Polio used to be a common illness that has been virtually eradicated by vaccination. See also Measles that can kill children or send them blind, lead to brain damage and immunity problems with other diseases. Cases were falling dramatically but are on the rise due to the Kennedy stupidity in the USA..
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I’m definitely not an anti-vaxxer but believe people should choose whether or not they take a vaccine.

It comes to risk profile, most people on this forum, for example, probably didn’t need the COVID vaccine. This seasons flu isn’t killing fit and healthy people so just because someone like MVE may miss a football game doesn’t mean all footballers should have vaccine mandates. The comparison to the ‘Spanish Flu’ (which killed more people than WW1) and COVID is a bit much. The flu vaccine changes year by year so isn’t even specific to the strain that’s season. For the that reason, it’s not the same as mumps, measles and so on.

If any other employer forced its workers to take a vaccine, I’d consider that violation of that individuals rights. So the suggestion footballers should be deducted wages is just plainly dumb and authoritarian.

A general point, if people want to be anti-vaxxers and they/their children get ill, let them be an unfortunate example to others. Vaccine mandates don’t breed trust in them. People opt in because the data tells us they are generally much better than not taking them.

On the ‘90% stat’, it’s definitely not UK specific but even the NHS numbers show a minority of NHS frontline staff take vaccines.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 6:46 PM
  • #287
wingy said:
A bit of blitz spirit should do us good, I've suddenly realised I've been a right negative pillock in my general demeanor so this is a positive one,we will win, the god's will be with us!
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Despite being hit by illness at Ipswich we probably should have gone in front in the first half anyway. Obviously depends who's been hit by it and how badly, but this is a more resilient group than we give it credit for sometimes.

If it's a bridge too far so be it
 
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clint van damme

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  • Yesterday at 6:46 PM
  • #288
Sky Blue Wozza said:
This is the first year I’ve not had a heavy cold/ flu. Been taking Vitamin B12/ D supplements and running 4 times a week - coincidence ?

Then again, I discovered my wife was having an affair with a friend of a friend so my mental health is absolutely fucked and I’m mainlining antidepressants

Anyway, Soton 1 Cov 1
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I didn't see that twist coming when I was enjoying the 1st paragraphs positive message and feel good factor.

Hopefully things soon take a turn for the better for you.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Yesterday at 6:47 PM
  • #289
There being full in the camp doesn't mean anyone is out, just that people have been unwell at times.

There was clearly flu in the camp for a while with Torp then MVE being out but we still managed to but out a best XI last week. We'll see tomorrow who is well enough to play.
 
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Trueskyblue20

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  • Yesterday at 6:50 PM
  • #290
I’d love to get everyone’s thoughts on the Covid vaccine if you’ve got a few minutes
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 6:52 PM
  • #291
Sky Blue Wozza said:
This is the first year I’ve not had a heavy cold/ flu. Been taking Vitamin B12/ D supplements and running 4 times a week - coincidence ?

Then again, I discovered my wife was having an affair with a friend of a friend so my mental health is absolutely fucked and I’m mainlining antidepressants

Anyway, Soton 1 Cov 1
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Anything we can do to help just shout.
 
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wingy

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  • Yesterday at 6:53 PM
  • #292
Captain Dart said:
How can Kennedy have had any effect in the less than one year he has been HHS?
Clearly the cases in the USA are by and large in the already vaccinated population.

Johns Hopkins University claims the MMR vaccination rates in the USA in 2025 were 92.5% (and the AI answer below about 2025 MMR rates concurs) and there have been many years where the rates have been lower without any outbreaks. I did an AI search and these were the numbers I got.

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What do you think about the measles case numbers from Canada? Their vaccination rates are high too but they have 3 times the number of cases there than in the USA in a much smaller population. Canada loses measles elimination status, with US on track to follow

It seem to me that the new strain around in the Americas breaks through the vaccinations and there is no obvious effect caused by the current administration's stance. In fact Kennedy not that long ago said in the linked post on X that "The most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine,"


Anyway it wasn't me that started this aside, can we get back to FOOTBALL PLEASE.
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How about the symptoms of it,can you find the number suffering blindness and death etc?
 

clint van damme

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  • Yesterday at 6:54 PM
  • #293
Trueskyblue20 said:
I’d love to get everyone’s thoughts on the Covid vaccine if you’ve got a few minutes
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Playing 4 at the back with 2 or more vaccinated players is asking for trouble.
Definitely stick with a 3 and a couple of wing backs, at least one of whom has had the typhoid jab
 
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shmmeee

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  • Yesterday at 6:56 PM
  • #294
Trueskyblue20 said:
I’d love to get everyone’s thoughts on the Covid vaccine if you’ve got a few minutes
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Hang on mate just asking my GP whether we should play 3 ATB tomorrow.
 
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Sky Blue Wozza

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  • Yesterday at 7:00 PM
  • #295
clint van damme said:
I didn't see that twist coming when I was enjoying the 1st paragraphs positive message and feel good factor.

Hopefully things soon take a turn for the better for you.
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Anything we can do to help just shout.
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Thanks Fellas - I’m ok, in a much better place than I was a month ago. At least the football is good!
 
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JSL

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  • Yesterday at 7:21 PM
  • #296
Brighton Sky Blue said:
EMC said it in the presser
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Not quite. He said that there is a bit of flu about. He didnt mention the squad
 
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clint van damme

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  • Yesterday at 7:38 PM
  • #297
JSL said:
Not quite. He said that there is a bit of flu about. He didnt mention the squad
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He couldn't, he was too bunged up
 

Tommo1993

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  • Yesterday at 7:55 PM
  • #298
Worry not about football. It’s a complete waste of worry.
 
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mmttww

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  • Yesterday at 7:57 PM
  • #299
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
You are really in no position to lecture other people
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 8:00 PM
  • #300
JSL said:
Not quite. He said that there is a bit of flu about. He didnt mention the squad
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Think he mentioned Kitching daring Woolf to sneeze into Rushworth's gloves?
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Yesterday at 8:07 PM
  • #301
Sky Blue Wozza said:
This is the first year I’ve not had a heavy cold/ flu. Been taking Vitamin B12/ D supplements and running 4 times a week - coincidence ?

Then again, I discovered my wife was having an affair with a friend of a friend so my mental health is absolutely fucked and I’m mainlining antidepressants

Anyway, Soton 1 Cov 1
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Hope things get better Wozza! The community is here to help you through an awful thing!

Look, if you’re being fit and healthy, you’re moving on in life for the better! Keep it up mate!
 
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CovveeBreak

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  • Yesterday at 8:19 PM
  • #302
Just seen the other fixtures tomorrow. We lose tomorrow could be a real leveller for the teams behind us!
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 8:21 PM
  • #303
CovveeBreak said:
Just seen the other fixtures tomorrow. We lose tomorrow could be a real leveller for the teams behind us!
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No games are won or lost on paper…
 
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ccfc1292

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  • Yesterday at 8:38 PM
  • #304
Any spares for tomorrow? Will meet at ground/Southampton.
 

clint van damme

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  • Yesterday at 8:44 PM
  • #305
Brighton Sky Blue said:
No games are won or lost on paper…
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Sudoku?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 8:46 PM
  • #306
clint van damme said:
Sudoku?
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Correspondence chess
 
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clint van damme

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  • Yesterday at 8:49 PM
  • #307
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Correspondence chess
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I bow to your superior knowledge on that one!
 

eyesee

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  • Yesterday at 8:53 PM
  • #308
Brighton Sky Blue said:
EMC said it in the presser
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...frank's given emc a dose of flu, so that he can play wright on the wing, and simmo up front?
genius, i'll take that.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 8:54 PM
  • #309
clint van damme said:
I bow to your superior knowledge on that one!
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I used to play for the county at it but was kicked off the team for forgetting to send a move in! Perfectly understandable tbf.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 8:58 PM
  • #310
eyesee said:
...frank's given emc a dose of flu, so that he can play wright on the wing, and simmo up front?
genius, i'll take that.
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When the sneezing fit starts today
Makes me sway
Mason Clarke’s coughing on my nan
Spreading germs makes the City sick
Aaaaaaaa choo, aaaaaaaa choo
 
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clint van damme

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  • Yesterday at 9:44 PM
  • #311
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I used to play for the county at it but was kicked off the team for forgetting to send a move in! Perfectly understandable tbf.
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Did your fans riot?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 9:47 PM
  • #312
clint van damme said:
Did your fans riot?
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Very quietly, can’t disturb the other players.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Yesterday at 9:56 PM
  • #313
wingy said:
How about the symptoms of it,can you find the number suffering blindness and death etc?
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I had it and ISTR it was a few days with an itchy rash and having to take 2 table spoons of penicillin every day for a week (horrible bitter pink stuff in a clear glass corked bottle).
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Yesterday at 9:59 PM
  • #314
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I used to play for the county at it but was kicked off the team for forgetting to send a move in! Perfectly understandable tbf.
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Surely the second rule of chess club is "Have you sent your move in? CHECK!"
 
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CCFC96

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  • Yesterday at 10:38 PM
  • #315
Just listened to the EMC interview and think a few are running away with his throwaway comment on the flu a bit.

Torp/MvE have had it recently so wouldn’t be surprised if someone else has picked something up but the way some of you lot are going on you’d think we’ve had to bring Clive Platt back on an emergency short-term deal.
 
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