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Match Thread Southampton - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 20th Dec (45 Viewers)

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 1:01 PM
  • #246
Viktor17 said:
Sounds like flu has claimed some more people tomorrow, Lampard sounded downbeat on that.
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Hopefully not the only team struggling with it.
 
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skyblueelephant76

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  • Today at 1:02 PM
  • #247
Speedies_Chips said:
If that's the case, is there a reason why professional footballers don't have the flu jab? Genuine question.
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Lampard was asked about it before, he said it was the players choice. He didn't sound keen on having to have it.
 
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Warwickhunt

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  • Today at 1:33 PM
  • #248
keep the opposition guessing! dont want them to sniff hope!
 
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Viktor17

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  • Today at 1:33 PM
  • #249
Speedies_Chips said:
If that's the case, is there a reason why professional footballers don't have the flu jab? Genuine question.
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That’s a big rabbit hole.

however they may have had it, but also personal choice right, but again that’s a convo best left in 2021!
 
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clint van damme

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  • Today at 1:51 PM
  • #250
Speedies_Chips said:
If that's the case, is there a reason why professional footballers don't have the flu jab? Genuine question.
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So bill Gates can't control their movements on the pitch
 
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TomRad85

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  • Today at 1:53 PM
  • #251
Doesn't have to be flu specially, a bad cold can absolutely wipe you out and there's nothing you can do other than wait it out.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 2:01 PM
  • #252
TomRad85 said:
Doesn't have to be flu specially, a bad cold can absolutely wipe you out and there's nothing you can do other than wait it out.
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If there has to be a bug going round better now than when we have 4 games in 9 days.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Today at 2:04 PM
  • #253
StrettoBoy said:
I don't disagree with what you say but you won't stop we worrying. I'm still haunted by that season under Mowbray when we collapsed after Christmas.
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Though the reality was that we'd already collapse in December. We only started that month second on goal difference and finished it fourth, four points off second having played a game more
 

skybluelee

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  • Today at 2:11 PM
  • #254
Speedies_Chips said:
If that's the case, is there a reason why professional footballers don't have the flu jab? Genuine question.
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Probably been talking to Le Tissier
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Today at 2:13 PM
  • #255
fernandopartridge said:
Though the reality was that we'd already collapse in December. We only started that month second on goal difference and finished it fourth, four points off second having played a game more
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From memory it actually started in November then as you say went into December.

Also, it was an incredibly young side with zero depth and no real hope of recruiting well in January.

Beyond the Starting XI we had next to no quality. Couple that with Armstrong's form dropping off a cliff it ended up being a perfect storm for our collapse.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Today at 2:22 PM
  • #256
Can see another Ipswichesque result if we have a flu outbreak.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Today at 2:46 PM
  • #257
Missus is jabbed and has still had it as bad as me. Not sure the vaccine helps this particular strain but being unvaccinated as a footballer is ridiculous. I hope the club reclaim any wages when they aren’t playing from their ow stupid decisions.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Today at 3:01 PM
  • #258
Speedies_Chips said:
If that's the case, is there a reason why professional footballers don't have the flu jab? Genuine question.
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I’m pretty sure about 90% of hospital doctors and nurses don’t take it either.

As a principle, unless you’re immuneo-compromised I don’t think fit and healthy people should be inoculated for common illnesses.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Today at 3:05 PM
  • #259
Mucca Mad Boys said:
I’m pretty sure about 90% of hospital doctors and nurses don’t take it either.

As a principle, unless you’re immuneo-compromised I don’t think fit and healthy people should be inoculated for common illnesses.
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You might think that but all available evidence would disagree. Any anyone who has met a nurse would know they’re hardly immune (lol) from internet madness.
 
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jto123

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  • Today at 3:11 PM
  • #260
Cba with the vaccine debates. Reminds me of my Covid family Xmas again. Clearly nobody on either side going to be convinced. As for the football, very worrying that flu is running through us. They’re not an immediate recovery either as Torp has shown. Would snap your hand off for a point with that news.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 3:13 PM
  • #261
jto123 said:
Cba with the vaccine debates. Reminds me of my Covid family Xmas again. Clearly nobody on either side going to be convinced. As for the football, very worrying that flu is running through us. They’re not an immediate recovery either as Torp has shown. Would snap your hand off for a point with that news.
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As I said, better this week than next.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Today at 3:15 PM
  • #262
shmmeee said:
You might think that but all available evidence would disagree. Any anyone who has met a nurse would know they’re hardly immune (lol) from internet madness.
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Rather condescending as per, people should have choice whether or not they take a vaccine. If people choose to not take something and they get ill, you reap what you sow.

In any case, elite athletes aren’t exactly people who need to be pressured into getting a flue jab that might not even stop getting ill. They’re fit and healthy people who aren’t gonna get seriously ill if they catch said virus.

No, this isn’t anti-vaxxer nonsense. I’m entitled to a free flu jab and got the COVID jabs pretty early, but decided against getting the jab this year.
 
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wingy

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  • Today at 3:17 PM
  • #263
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
From memory it actually started in November then as you say went into December.

Also, it was an incredibly young side with zero depth and no real hope of recruiting well in January.

Beyond the Starting XI we had next to no quality. Couple that with Armstrong's form dropping off a cliff it ended up being a perfect storm for our collapse.
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I get most of that but I still felt Joe Cole didn't have the desired effect, was it beat Barnsley on a twelve game losing streak for top of the table on his debut, after being 2-0 up the losing 4- 3 or drawing 4-4?
Not a criticism of his talent but just the wrong mix?
 

pusbccfc

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  • Today at 3:22 PM
  • #264
This flu is wiping people out even with the vaccine and even if they are fit and healthy. Most of my colleagues have been off work for a week with it and can't get out of bed.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 3:30 PM
  • #265
pusbccfc said:
This flu is wiping people out even with the vaccine and even if they are fit and healthy. Most of my colleagues have been off work for a week with it and can't get out of bed.
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Flu vaccine is made based on best guesses from the southern hemisphere, can't always get it right and this year having the vaccine would probably not have helped. Got this flu about 6 weeks ago and it wiped me out for a week, our players should be more robust so you'd hope wouldn't be out for as long.
 
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Otis

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  • Today at 3:40 PM
  • #266
shmmeee said:
Not confident for this one. But the last game I got confident for was Ipswich so not doing that again. Think we’re in “limp to January” mode and they’re finding their feet. One of the toughest games of the season remaining for me.
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Now I wasn't at all confident on Ipswich. I was convinced we would lose. The Saints game, I am a lot more confident on and can well see us getting something from the game
 
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Chris1987

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  • Today at 3:45 PM
  • #267
JSL said:
Not that I'm that worried, but the elephant in the room is that Sheffield United were top this time last year and they didn't make it.
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We don't have a manager that tries to defend 1-0's for 70 minutes
 

shepardo01

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  • Today at 3:59 PM
  • #268
So who is out/missing if George Shepherd (who has only just returned from injury himself!) is in the squad!?!!
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 4:00 PM
  • #269
shepardo01 said:
So who is out/missing if George Shepherd (who has only just returned from injury himself!) is in the squad!?!!
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Going to be a decimating tomorrow. Worrying times
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Today at 4:03 PM
  • #270
JSL said:
Not that I'm that worried, but the elephant in the room is that Sheffield United were top this time last year and they didn't make it.
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They got 94 points last year which in most seasons pretty much guarantees a top 2 finish.

There’s 75 points left to play for which means that it’s literally only possible for teams below us and Boro to hit 100 points with a near 100% record.

For context, Ipswich and Southampton need to win 20 and 21 games respectively to hit 94 points.

By contrast, we need win 16 games from 25 to hit 96 points. The parachute team would need to be undefeated for the rest of the season to have a realistic chance of surpassing 90 points, let alone 94+ points.
 

torchomatic

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  • 55 minutes ago
  • #271
Who said we've had a flu outbreak in the squad or is someone just putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • 31 minutes ago
  • #272
torchomatic said:
Who said we've had a flu outbreak in the squad or is someone just putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5?
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EMC said it in the presser
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • 25 minutes ago
  • #273
wingy said:
I get most of that but I still felt Joe Cole didn't have the desired effect, was it beat Barnsley on a twelve game losing streak for top of the table on his debut, after being 2-0 up the losing 4- 3 or drawing 4-4?
Not a criticism of his talent but just the wrong mix?
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We won 4-3! Barnsley themselves then went on an amazing run and got promoted.

Although as has been pointed out we had already started to slip, the January transfer window cemented it. Bringing in 'old heads' in the shape of Ramage, Henderson and Hunt was counter productive, and Maddison wasn't the same player for us after his deadline transfer.

I'm pretty sure we were still in a decent enough position to challenge after the transfer window closed, but I remember us soon after playing home games against Walsall and Burton in the same week, who were promotion rivals and lost both.

Ben Turner getting injured was also a kick in the teeth as he was just what we needed at that time.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • 18 minutes ago
  • #274
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Rather condescending as per, people should have choice whether or not they take a vaccine. If people choose to not take something and they get ill, you reap what you sow.

In any case, elite athletes aren’t exactly people who need to be pressured into getting a flue jab that might not even stop getting ill. They’re fit and healthy people who aren’t gonna get seriously ill if they catch said virus.

No, this isn’t anti-vaxxer nonsense. I’m entitled to a free flu jab and got the COVID jabs pretty early, but decided against getting the jab this year.
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'My body, my choice' but I'll pick and choose when it applies. Funnily enough, it always seems to be the ones who act holier than thou who are constantly hypocritical, and who's compassion goes about five yards.
 
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Covcraig@bury

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  • 8 minutes ago
  • #275
On a positive note 3-2 away win
 

blunted

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  • 1 minute ago
  • #276
Mucca Mad Boys said:
I’m pretty sure about 90% of hospital doctors and nurses don’t take it either.

As a principle, unless you’re immuneo-compromised I don’t think fit and healthy people should be inoculated for common illnesses.
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That is bollocks. 90%? no way is that accurate, just some online bullshit. It is a surprisingly high number considering their profession and experiences but interestingly the numbers are not often published.
Flu kills people, as does Covid. The "Spanish" Flu epidemic killed millions, peculiarly mainly young, fully fit, healthy people. That strain never went away and only vaccination will protect you. Covid much the same, only the "at risk" suffered worse.
Polio used to be a common illness that has been virtually eradicated by vaccination. See also Measles that can kill children or send them blind, lead to brain damage and immunity problems with other diseases. Cases were falling dramatically but are on the rise due to the Kennedy stupidity in the USA..
 
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