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Something to piss a few off , XG table (1 Viewer)

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Evo1883

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  • Nov 14, 2023
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For those that thinks it means nothing , that's fine

for those that think it does , that's fine too .

Here it is
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 14, 2023
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The table is showing how many wins draws and losses we would be on based on expected goals for and against .

Long story short , we're creating alot
 

Otis

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  • Nov 14, 2023
  • #3
Evo1883 said:
For those that thinks it means nothing , that's fine

for those that think it does , that's fine too .

Here it is
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And what about for those who don't understand it?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 14, 2023
  • #4
Otis said:
And what about for those who don't understand it?
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Just added another post
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 14, 2023
  • #5
Evo1883 said:
The table is showing how manybwins draws and losses we would be on based on expected goals for and against .

Long story short , we're creating alot
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Ahh, thanks. That's all I needed to know.
 
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CV22SBA

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  • Nov 14, 2023
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Evo1883 said:
The table is showing how many wins draws and losses we would be on based on expected goals for and against .

Long story short , we're creating alot
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So basically are strikers are shit. We’re creating enough chances to be in the playoffs but we’re 5th bottom because we can’t score.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 14, 2023
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CV22SBA said:
So basically are strikers are shit. We’re creating enough chances to be in the playoffs but we’re 5th bottom because we can’t score.
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Atm , yes
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 14, 2023
  • #8
To be fair Ayari scoring with his knob from point blank is about 69 xG
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 14, 2023
  • #9
Brighton Sky Blue said:
To be fair Ayari scoring with his knob from point blank is about 69 xG
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I like the way you got 69's and knobs in the same sentence there.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 14, 2023
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
To be fair Ayari scoring with his knob from point blank is about 69 xG
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It's generally though quite consistent
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 14, 2023
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CV22SBA said:
So basically are strikers are shit. We’re creating enough chances to be in the playoffs but we’re 5th bottom because we can’t score.
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Plus opposition strikers have finished exceptionally well against us (or our keeper has let in some howlers).
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 14, 2023
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PVA said:
Plus opposition strikers have finished exceptionally well against us (or our keeper has let in some howlers).
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Only seen one decent not offside goal against us all season to be honest
 
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Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • Nov 14, 2023
  • #13
I don't know whether to feel reassured or not!
 

skyblueeyesrevisited

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  • Nov 14, 2023
  • #14
There should be another table for expected referee cock ups and apologies. We might be top of that table.
 
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CV22SBA

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  • Nov 14, 2023
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PVA said:
Plus opposition strikers have finished exceptionally well against us (or our keeper has let in some howlers).
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probably evened out by some of the world class saves he made. Especially QPR, that goes in and no way we would have gone on to win the game and would probably find ourselves in the bottom 3 now.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Nov 14, 2023
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CV22SBA said:
probably evened out by some of the world class saves he made. Especially QPR, that goes in and no way we would have gone on to win the game and would probably find ourselves in the bottom 3 now.
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“World class”
 

SBAndy

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  • Nov 14, 2023
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CV22SBA said:
probably evened out by some of the world class saves he made. Especially QPR, that goes in and no way we would have gone on to win the game and would probably find ourselves in the bottom 3 now.
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No, not evened out. Statistically towards the bottom of the pile this season with -2.8 ‘Goals Prevented’.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 14, 2023
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Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon said:
I don't know whether to feel reassured or not!
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I guess it shows tactically we are pretty much on the ball ...you could also argue we're a good side being let down by poor finishing .

Either way we are where we are
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 14, 2023
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skyblueeyesrevisited said:
There should be another table for expected referee cock ups and apologies. We might be top of that table.
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Us and everyone else in the league
 
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Ashdown

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  • Nov 14, 2023
  • #20
Just reiterates what most of us have already alluded to.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Nov 14, 2023
  • #21
Backs up three points I think are relevant to us. Our strikers need to settle, when we’re around the box we need to be a bit less intricate and possession in itself wins you nothing.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 14, 2023
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SBAndy said:
No, not evened out. Statistically towards the bottom of the pile this season with -2.8 ‘Goals Prevented’.
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Wait. So he’s created 2.8 goals that wouldn’t have happened without him?
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 14, 2023
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Cally Fedora said:
Backs up three points I think are relevant to us. Our strikers need to settle, when we’re around the box we need to be a bit less intricate and possession in itself wins you nothing.
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Surely it’s the opposite of the last two because we’re creating good chances?
 
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ProfessorbyGrace

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  • Nov 14, 2023
  • #24
There should be a CAB rating incorporated into this system: a Cow’s Arse Banjo set of results, of which (currently) would reveal that our players have the best overall ability in the league, to statistically miss a cow’s arse with a very large banjo, at optimal hitting range.

Top of the league. ⚽️
 
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edgy

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  • Nov 14, 2023
  • #25
So the midfield isn't the problem then?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 14, 2023
  • #26
Said the same Saturday. Look at the table, lots of teams (14) are within 3 places of where they ought to be based on xg, 19 teams within 4 places in a very tight league.

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SBAndy

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  • Nov 14, 2023
  • #27
shmmeee said:
Wait. So he’s created 2.8 goals that wouldn’t have happened without him?
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It’s an extrapolation of xGOT (expected goals on target). The basis of it is that an ‘average’ keeper would have stopped 2.8 more goals (obviously broken down into numerous fractions).

My gut feel is that we’re conceding very few glaring chances, but when we do they are scored.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 14, 2023
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SBAndy said:
It’s an extrapolation of xGOT (expected goals on target). The basis of it is that an ‘average’ keeper would have stopped 2.8 more goals (obviously broken down into numerous fractions).

My gut feel is that we’re conceding very few glaring chances, but when we do they are scored.
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Makes sense. It really does feel that with the new back line and hopefully the forwards starting to fire and we’ll be OK.
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 14, 2023
  • #29
shmmeee said:
Makes sense. It really does feel that with the new back line and hopefully the forwards starting to fire and we’ll be OK.
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All the stats are pointing in the right direction
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Nov 14, 2023
  • #30
But I thought it was all Eccles fault and all we had to do was drop him and all would be fine? Of course the strikers and am have been the problem.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 14, 2023
  • #31
Deleted member 9744 said:
But I thought it was all Eccles fault and all we had to do was drop him and all would be fine? Of course the strikers and am have been the problem.
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I don’t think anyone has said that and the strikers have had plenty of criticism
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 14, 2023
  • #32
Thing that confuses me is there seems different data

Championship xG (Expected Goals) (England) | FootyStats

Expected Goals data for the England Championship - including xG, xG Against (Conceded), and xG at home and away. Stats use advanced xG modelling for the Championship.
footystats.org

xG League Tables - compares xG points versus actual points

Expected Goals (xG) league tables for major leagues including England, Spain, France, Germany, Italy, Brazil, Argentina, USA and many more.
footballxg.com
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 14, 2023
  • #33
Also if your forwards do misfire it may be they are just inferior and need more chances to convert
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 14, 2023
  • #34
Grendel said:
Thing that confuses me is there seems different data

Championship xG (Expected Goals) (England) | FootyStats

Expected Goals data for the England Championship - including xG, xG Against (Conceded), and xG at home and away. Stats use advanced xG modelling for the Championship.
footystats.org

xG League Tables - compares xG points versus actual points

Expected Goals (xG) league tables for major leagues including England, Spain, France, Germany, Italy, Brazil, Argentina, USA and many more.
footballxg.com
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The data in the picture above is done on a game by game basis

Basically should we have won drew or lost that match based on quality of chances created
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 14, 2023
  • #35
Evo1883 said:
The data in the picture above is done on a game by game basis

Basically should we have won drew or lost that match based on quality of chances created
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Does every data set have the same original source?
 
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