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skybluecam

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I know plenty that miss the Saturday 12.30 games because of work.if you can't finish an hour early on the 29th I'd look for another job
Saturday isn’t a working day. Monday is.

Perfectly happy with my job- I’ve literally never heard of a football match kicking of at 6pm on a working day before? It’s ridiculous.
 

Robinshio

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Saturday isn’t a working day. Monday is.

Perfectly happy with my job- I’ve literally never heard of a football match kicking of at 6pm on a working day before? It’s ridiculous.
miners strike 1974, I think we had a 2.30 pm kick off on a weekday at Man city
 

Gleneagles65

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Xmas Day games were commonplace back in the day (not sure until when though ? Maybe 1950s) but Cmas wouldn’t have been anywhere near as commercialised then of course. I think they were morning kick offs
We were the last professional club to host a home match on Christmas Day 1959 beating Wrexham at HR. Played them at the Racecourse ground on Boxing Day too and won again.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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Saturday isn’t a working day. Monday is.

Perfectly happy with my job- I’ve literally never heard of a football match kicking of at 6pm on a working day before? It’s ridiculous.
People who work Saturdays is a working day, same as people who work sundays. This isn't 1925 lol
 

chiefdave

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Saturday is a normal working day for loads
'loads' is still very much a minority. The majority of people work Monday to Friday and get public holidays off. Of the people who don't work Monday to Friday a big chunk are people on flexible working or compressed hours (eg Monday to Thursday).

Not sure why people are trying to make out having a game kick off at 6pm on a regular workday is normal. Doing Sky's work for them.

How long before we get, well it was fine that one time we did it so lets have midweek games at 6pm because it works for the tv schedule.
 

SkyBluePower

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'loads' is still very much a minority. The majority of people work Monday to Friday and get public holidays off. Of the people who don't work Monday to Friday a big chunk are people on flexible working or compressed hours (eg Monday to Thursday).

Not sure why people are trying to make out having a game kick off at 6pm on a regular workday is normal. Doing Sky's work for them.

How long before we get, well it was fine that one time we did it so lets have midweek games at 6pm because it works for the tv schedule.

It’s just fucking greedy of Sky. They have a full slate of 7.45 kickoffs that day plus an 8.15. That includes Derby/Leicester and Blues/Southampton. Gets people locked in from 5.30 until 10 I suppose but even so is a weird time.
 

Potbellypig

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'loads' is still very much a minority. The majority of people work Monday to Friday and get public holidays off. Of the people who don't work Monday to Friday a big chunk are people on flexible working or compressed hours (eg Monday to Thursday).

Not sure why people are trying to make out having a game kick off at 6pm on a regular workday is normal. Doing Sky's work for them.

How long before we get, well it was fine that one time we did it so lets have midweek games at 6pm because it works for the tv schedule.
The Internet says that around 63% of UK workers work a typical Monday to Friday work week.
 

chiefdave

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The Internet says that around 63% of UK workers work a typical Monday to Friday work week.
Indeed, which is already a majority. It then goes on to say that the reason that figure is dropping is people working flexible or compressed hours which is still working on 'normal' working days rather than weekends.

Nobody is suggesting that working patterns aren't changing or that more people aren't working weekends. But if the majority work Monday to Friday and the game is on a non-bank holiday it might not be a bad idea to have kick off at a time that enables people to get there after work.

We are literally the only game in the country that kicks off before 7:30pm on a working day between Christmas and New Year, its not the norm despite people wanting to insist it is.
 

SkyBluePower

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I genuinely believe Sky pick these kick off times and do things such as having us play Norwich on a Monday night in the hope that match going fans cave in and in the end back scrapping the 3pm Blackout

Sky is turning back into a monopoly again. TNT is on its last gasp and no Amazon Prime games this year.
 

Potbellypig

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Indeed, which is already a majority. It then goes on to say that the reason that figure is dropping is people working flexible or compressed hours which is still working on 'normal' working days rather than weekends.

Nobody is suggesting that working patterns aren't changing or that more people aren't working weekends. But if the majority work Monday to Friday and the game is on a non-bank holiday it might not be a bad idea to have kick off at a time that enables people to get there after work.

We are literally the only game in the country that kicks off before 7:30pm on a working day between Christmas and New Year, its not the norm despite people wanting to insist it is.
No-one is suggesting it's the norm, so you can forget anyone is.

The outrage (faux or not) isn't warranted. The UK isn't working 9-5 Monday to Friday like it was probably only a couple of decades ago. Those annoyed about it being 6pm on a Monday aren't up in arms about 12.30pm on a Saturday because it doesnt suit their own personal preferences. It actually comes across very much like those who moan about the away games points.
 

skybluecam

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No-one is suggesting it's the norm, so you can forget anyone is.

The outrage (faux or not) isn't warranted. The UK isn't working 9-5 Monday to Friday like it was probably only a couple of decades ago. Those annoyed about it being 6pm on a Monday aren't up in arms about 12.30pm on a Saturday because it doesnt suit their own personal preferences. It actually comes across very much like those who moan about the away games points.
How do people not see the difference between a weekend and a weekday?

9-5 Monday to Friday are still by far the most common hours for people to be working.
 

alexccfc99

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What do you mean by'cave in'?
If you take your normal match going fan - A lot of these games get moved to 12:30, or Friday/Monday nights as they cannot be shown at 3pm, which I would say inconveniences a large majority of people

Sky would obviously love the 3pm blackout to be scrapped, they could show every EFL game of the season and also every Premier League match that isn't given to TNT

By choosing inconvenient games (ie long trips) to be early kick offs or Friday night games I think they expect more people to rally for the end of the 3pm Blackout - As with no blackouts these trips could stay at 3pm and be televised

I don't know if that come out right - But I am sure you get my jist
 

chiefdave

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I would guess maybe a minority. I don't personally know of any businesses back in on that Monday and Tuesday. Just an uneducated guess though.
Doesn't seem to be a lot of stats but it looks like if you're a factory worker you're far more likely to be off as production shuts down.

For office workers the stats I can find suggest 61.5% work between Christmas and New Year.

The overriding sentiment seems to be its a complete waste of time because you can't get anything done with so many people using their annual leave.
 

clint van damme

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If you take your normal match going fan - A lot of these games get moved to 12:30, or Friday/Monday nights as they cannot be shown at 3pm, which I would say inconveniences a large majority of people

Sky would obviously love the 3pm blackout to be scrapped, they could show every EFL game of the season and also every Premier League match that isn't given to TNT

By choosing inconvenient games (ie long trips) to be early kick offs or Friday night games I think they expect more people to rally for the end of the 3pm Blackout - As with no blackouts these trips could stay at 3pm and be televised

I don't know if that come out right - But I am sure you get my jist

Gotcha.
 

CovRes

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If you take your normal match going fan - A lot of these games get moved to 12:30, or Friday/Monday nights as they cannot be shown at 3pm, which I would say inconveniences a large majority of people

Sky would obviously love the 3pm blackout to be scrapped, they could show every EFL game of the season and also every Premier League match that isn't given to TNT

By choosing inconvenient games (ie long trips) to be early kick offs or Friday night games I think they expect more people to rally for the end of the 3pm Blackout - As with no blackouts these trips could stay at 3pm and be televised

I don't know if that come out right - But I am sure you get my jist
They may want to show 3pm games, but they wouldn't want too many games on at the same time.

That would mean paying for extra infrastructure at their end to do that many live transmissions, even with most of them on a glorified streaming service. It would also leave them with little life action to cover the rest of the weekend.

If they can make the weekend games basically run from 8pm on Friday to 9:50pm on Monday (with it being between noon to 9:50pm on Saturday and Sunday), then they'll be happy.
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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I genuinely believe Sky pick these kick off times and do things such as having us play Norwich on a Monday night in the hope that match going fans cave in and in the end back scrapping the 3pm Blackout
I'd rather get rid of Sky and all the money that comes with it, then we can keep the 3pm KO.

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alexccfc99

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They may want to show 3pm games, but they wouldn't want too many games on at the same time.

That would mean paying for extra infrastructure at their end to do that many live transmissions, even with most of them on a glorified streaming service. It would also leave them with little life action to cover the rest of the weekend.

If they can make the weekend games basically run from 8pm on Friday to 9:50pm on Monday (with it being between noon to 9:50pm on Saturday and Sunday), then they'll be happy.
I don’t think it would cost that much in infrastructure - The EFL have cameras at every game anyway, Sky just piggyback these for their Sky Sports+ games and pay the EFL for that right

I think they’d show every game if they could - if you could theoretically watch every game your club plays legitimately on Sky then I think their subscriptions would shoot up, particularly amongst armchair Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea fans etc.
 

CovRes

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I don’t think it would cost that much in infrastructure - The EFL have cameras at every game anyway, Sky just piggyback these for their Sky Sports+ games and pay the EFL for that right

I think they’d show every game if they could - if you could theoretically watch every game your club plays legitimately on Sky then I think their subscriptions would shoot up, particularly amongst armchair Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea fans etc.
But they'd still want them spread out from Friday to Monday. Games at inconvenient times had nothing to do with breaking the 3PM embargo. It's to fill airtime.
 

alexccfc99

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But they'd still want them spread out from Friday to Monday. Games at inconvenient times had nothing to do with breaking the 3PM embargo. It's to fill airtime.
They would probably revert back to one showpiece game at 12.30pm like they used to for years before and maybe a Friday or Sunday game during the run in
 

EalingSB

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It's the Christmas break though, a lot of businesses will be closed for longer than the standard 3 days of Christmas and New Year, factories, building sites, offices etc
Can’t believe it took so many replies in this thread to say this. When all the kids are off, surely it’s way better to kick-off at 18.00 rather than 20.00? Personally, it works out a lot better being two hours earlier.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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The Ipswich kick off is perfect for me as I will be starting work at 10pm and 7-45 is a bit of a push. Either way I would be there though as I would go in late I used to have a lot of flat tyres but now I just say I’m watching the football and will be in when it’s over.
 

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