Don't try f**king squirming your way out of this Nick. No mention whatsoever about the price being for a Season Ticket. I see you conveniently omitted to say anything about the "Crewe" debacle. You and a few others on here deserve each other absolute shithouses :jerkit:
A fair point but thats a different argument really. Given our reliance on ticket revenues is proportionally higher than every other club we aren't really in the position to be leading the way on ticket prices.
Have a look at what I was quoting / replying to for fuck sake. It isn't hard is it?
Squirming out of what? Somebody said something about season ticket pricing, somebody then replied saying it was too expensive for the average man with kids, I then replied saying the price wasn't too much. It is quite clear.
As you are so angry about the pricing, you would think you would have known which pricing I was referring to anyway?
Why has Crewe in the JPT suddenly come into a discussion about ST prices?
As you also knew that I was talking about playing Crewe again in the JPT. but arseholes that you and a few others are tried your hardest to take the piss. you give it. but can't take it.
I know the perceived knowledge is that there is a huge difference between CCFC and the rest of the League about the %age of match day income to total income
To be fair an increasing number of people are supportive of the owners and happy with what gets served up so it is what it is
Following on from my last post over the years the percentage of match day income to total group turnover at CCFC has been (= turnover)
2015 37.7% (4.8m)
2014 30.3% (3.8m)
2013 45.6% (6.6m)
2012 48.8% (10.8m)
2011 24.5% (16.0m)
2010 30.8% (14.1m)
and yet the club and others have repeatedly hidden behind "the only income we get is matchday income"
Just to clear I am not saying we couldn't do with more income. I just think it has to be some degree been convenient to hide the claim because it masked piss poor performance on and off the pitch
What's going on at Crewe??? If you drill down on the figures we must be outperforming a lot of teams in other areas, do the accounts show what areas they are?
What would be interesting to know would be the spend per head other teams get from the revenue streams we don't get. We'd then get a clear picture on the amount we are missing out on.
Just at least be correct when you try to "give it" else you just look silly.
It is a bit like having a clue about things you are ranting about.
You're a cheeky fuck. you join in threads without reading what's gone on and been said before but claim to know what you're talking about. I've picked you up on it 3 or 4 times in the past. Your excuse... "I couldn't be arsed to read the previous pages" I think you need to be correct on things before you "Give it" mate. You do it all the fucking time, you take the piss, answer questions with at least 2 questions in reply, and you call me silly? Still no reply to the Crewe shit that you gave out! I'll stick by what I said previously. You and a few others on here are a bunch of shithouses!
You're a cheeky fuck. you join in threads without reading what's gone on and been said before but claim to know what you're talking about. I've picked you up on it 3 or 4 times in the past. Your excuse... "I couldn't be arsed to read the previous pages" I think you need to be correct on things before you "Give it" mate. You do it all the fucking time, you take the piss, answer questions with at least 2 questions in reply, and you call me silly? Still no reply to the Crewe shit that you gave out! I'll stick by what I said previously. You and a few others on here are a bunch of shithouses!
You forget the favourite saying.......
"Show me a link".
That is always a good one when they are at a loss "show me a link"
Think what Bob is getting at is, We don't even give the "Kids" a chance to mature in the first team squad before our arsehole owners sell 'em for peanuts, as opposed to getting possibly 10 times more by keeping hold for a while longer
You're a cheeky fuck. you join in threads without reading what's gone on and been said before but claim to know what you're talking about. I've picked you up on it 3 or 4 times in the past. Your excuse... "I couldn't be
Well yeah, when people make stuff up the general reply is to see proof isn't it?
It is hardly at a loss is it? If you make shit up, you get asked for a link, you can't find one...
No just a cop out used to often.
Who the fuck wants to trawl throu a load of old threads? Bad enough keeping up to date with present ones.
You're a cheeky fuck. you join in threads without reading what's gone on and been said before but claim to know what you're talking about. I've picked you up on it 3 or 4 times in the past. Your excuse... "I couldn't be
No just a cop out used to often.
Who the fuck wants to trawl throu a load of old threads? Bad enough keeping up to date with present ones.
How is it a cop out?
Person 1 : "yeah, you said that person x was a twat"
Person 2 : "did I, when?"
Person 1 : "thats just a cop out"
The cop out is not being able to prove stuff after making stuff up, surely?
How is it a cop out?
Person 1 : "yeah, you said that person x was a twat"
Person 2 : "did I, when?"
Person 1 : "thats just a cop out"
The cop out is not being able to prove stuff after making stuff up, surely?
No mate, the "Cop out is when you can't be arsed to go back a COUPLE OF PAGES. You're a lazy fuck at the best of times!
No mate, the "Cop out is when you can't be arsed to go back a COUPLE OF PAGES. You're a lazy fuck at the best of times!
Great to see SBK back on the meths and in fine form.
I know the perceived knowledge is that there is a huge difference between CCFC and the rest of the League about the %age of match day income to total income, but I just wonder how true that is
If you take the CCFC accounts for 2015 at Companies House and compare other L1 teams 2015 that disclose the split then (turnover figs where available are in the brackets) ......
CCFC 37.7% of turnover is match day income (turnover 4.8m)
Wigan 36.8% (6.6m excluding premier league distribution 21.3m)
Millwall 41% (11.2m)
Walsall 28% (turnover 5.6m)
Sheff united no split (turnover 10.8m)
Burton no split (2.7m)
Bradford no details filed
Barnsley no split given (4.8m)
Scunthorpe 35% (2.78m)
Gillingham 34% (4.7m)
Rochdale no details filed
Port Vale no details filed
Peterborough no split given (6.2m)
Southend (2014 figs 2015 not filed yet) 36.5% (3.4m)
Bury 2015 no yet filed and no details available - late
Swindon no details filed
Oldham no details filed
Chesterfield no details filed
shrewsbury no split (4m)
Fleetwood no split given (4.6m)
Blackpool 32.9% ( turnover 8.2m excl 10m premier league) 2014 figs 2015 are late
Doncaster no details filed
Colchester no split given (3.8m)
Crewe 78.5% (3.5m)
No split and no details means that they have used the regs legally and properly not to disclose the information at companies house. There is no clear definition as to what constitutes match day income. Income from player sales is excluded
Conclusions
we are not the worst for relying on match day income. I would suggest that 30 to 35% is the norm in L1 for those that disclose the split - we are not far off that at 37.7%
Our turnover in L1 is not the best but certainly not the worst
Our turnover should in theory mean a larger SCMP budget than most
Final thought as CCFC have decided to franchise the shop and programme sales then the %age of match income to total will rise - due to a club decision
ps (not directed at anyone in particular) I wish people would stop saying we only have ticket income we clearly do have other incomes - infact the majority, 62.3% of it, is other incomes
Wouldn't a large proportion of our non match day income be transfer payments and payment clauses from sales like Wilson?
Great to see SBK back on the meths and in fine form.
Not Meths Grenduffy... A large dose of "Don't give a fuck about arseholes like you" pal.
Wouldn't a large proportion of our non match day income be transfer payments and payment clauses from sales like Wilson?
Wouldn't a large proportion of our non match day income be transfer payments and payment clauses from sales like Wilson?
I know the perceived knowledge is that there is a huge difference between CCFC and the rest of the League about the %age of match day income to total income, but I just wonder how true that is
That's last seasons finances....I know turn over isn't the same as budget available for players but there are 6 clubs there with a higher turn over than us.
So I can't see why so many people struggle with the idea that our spend on player budget maybe 6th or less.......
That's last seasons finances.......
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That list does because its the latests accounts, not this years.So are we comparing last years against teams that were in the championship?
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