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So Do All Teams Need Time to Gel? (9 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Grendel
  • Start date Aug 23, 2012
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craigSKYBLUE

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  • Aug 23, 2012
  • #106
Grendel said:
Puerile statement. Not really worthy of response but I will. No I wouldn't moan but we haven't so I can only put this down as an attempt at diverting a question you have no answer to.
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You cannot deny that the teams with maximum points probably wouldn't have them if they had our first two fixtures
 
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CCFC_Charlie

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  • Aug 23, 2012
  • #107
This is beyond a joke and getting pathetic now. Just because we didn't win our first two games of the season doesn't mean we're going to struggle. Some teams get off to better starts than others, how many times have we been up their after a few games and finished near the bottom? We cannot read anything into these early results.
 
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craigSKYBLUE

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  • Aug 23, 2012
  • #108
CCFC_Charlie said:
This is beyond a joke and getting pathetic now. Just because we didn't win our first two games of the season doesn't mean we're going to struggle. Some teams get off to better starts than others, how many times have we been up their after a few games and finished near the bottom? We cannot read anything into these early results.
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no point saying that here.although correct you will be flamed lol
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 23, 2012
  • #109
craigSKYBLUE said:
no point saying that here.although correct you will be flamed lol
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No it is correct. However the performance levels do matter. Lack of attempts on goal, inability to hold on to leads, questionable substitutions, players out of position - these are still evident and are far more concerning than the actual results.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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  • Aug 23, 2012
  • #110
Grendel said:
Has anyone had a vendetta against any manager? Must be at least one you thought was not up to it. Hardly a vendetta, just a conclusion you draw from what you witness.
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No but you have to admit you are a stuck record. You don't like Thorn, and wanted him gone last season, and that clouds your view of this season.
 

Otis

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  • Aug 23, 2012
  • #111
Grendel said:
No it is correct. However the performance levels do matter. Lack of attempts on goal, inability to hold on to leads, questionable substitutions, players out of position - these are still evident and are far more concerning than the actual results.
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Agree. I don't mind us losing if we have put in a good performance. You just accept that if we continue to put in good performances the results should come, though there are other factors too, like last season and having no-one to put the ball in the back of the net etc., but usually if you usually perform consistently well the the performances should be reflected in results.

On Tuesday though in that first half we had no shots on goal and not a single corner. Very odd stat that for a home team to have.

I am rather concerned because that is 3 games in, not one good performance and should we lose on Saturday the picture would then look very bleak.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Aug 23, 2012
  • #112
Nice post, Otis. If we carry on putting in these sorts of performances, we can forget about promotion. I predict we will end up around 15th due the Thorn factor.

Some people are blind to his obvious flaws, yet they are unable to tell us what makes him a good manager and worth pursuing with in the long-term.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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  • Aug 23, 2012
  • #113
If he doesn't win in the next two games I say get rid. But I'm pro-Thorn, yeah?
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Aug 23, 2012
  • #114
ClarrieB said:
Is everyone who thinks Thorn is clueless accused of having a vendetta - you can think him clueless and even unworthy with having a vendetta.
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No just Grendel who attacks the manager if he sneezes too loudly
 

Otis

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  • Aug 23, 2012
  • #115
He does sneeze like a walrus though.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 23, 2012
  • #116
CCFC said:
No just Grendel who attacks the manager if he sneezes too loudly
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He can sneeze like an elephant if he wins football matches. He doesn't. I'd love to see him prove me wrong and we do well. He has yet to do so.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 24, 2012
  • #117
Grendel said:
Other than the 3 who are top of the league with maximum points.:facepalm:
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Who won't maintain the form, especially Tranmere :jerkit:

Vendetta: A prolonged bitter quarrel with or campaign against someone.

On that definition; the likes of Sick Boy, Grendal, Carrie B have a clear vendetta against AT :claping hands:
 
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Sutty

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  • Aug 24, 2012
  • #118
Vendetta - It's a type of ice cream isn't it?
 
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ClarrieB

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  • Aug 24, 2012
  • #119
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
Who won't maintain the form, especially Tranmere :jerkit:

Vendetta: A prolonged bitter quarrel with or campaign against someone.

On that definition; the likes of Sick Boy, Grendal, Carrie B have a clear vendetta against AT :claping hands:
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wingy

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  • Aug 24, 2012
  • #120
ClarrieB said:
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Ooh my favourite tipple.:claping hands: must get down the OFFY
 

cloughie

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  • Aug 24, 2012
  • #121
Grendel said:
No the facts relate to League games - for all I know

For all you know
enough said
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cloughie

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  • Aug 24, 2012
  • #122
Grendel said:
Those that don't have Thorn as manager.
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you are obviously dissapointed that after 6 pages nobody has slagged thorn off as was the intention of the thread

just couldn't help yourself
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 24, 2012
  • #123
Grendal and co's argument:

No teams need time to gel, their early form dictates the final finish.

Reading got off to a great start last season... Weren't they something like 21pts off 1st in Jan? And they won the league.

Man U most seasons where they're 7th in August and come back to win the league or push it to the final 2 games?

But yeah, no such thing as 'gelling', it's a myth...
 

smouch1975

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  • Aug 25, 2012
  • #124
Mixing it with the top two.
Given that we play Bury today, win expected.
Doncaster play Yeovil on the 1st draw expected

Then us against Tranmere on the 15th
That's one the present top teams playing a game we drew, us playing a game where one of them won.

So the 15th is D day. Gelling over with, we win or lose. We can be right up there or not. I'll see how things are traveling by then
 
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