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luwalla · Aug 26, 2016

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sp...ews/im-scratching-head-coventry-city-11803145

Sold for peanuts , no rumours of unrest, one of the players of the season ( in the first 2/3 of the season at least ) and a player we could have done with in the squid for sure... totally baffling.

Wish the club would just come out and say he done a john terry and gave mowbrays missus a foot massage, then at least we could understand it!

Nick · Aug 26, 2016

Mowbray said it was his choice didn't he?

fernandopartridge · Aug 26, 2016

You musn't have been at the match Saturday, Mascherano he was not! Nearly gave away a goal to Reid in the first half dithering on the ball - Reid really should have scored, then he and his other centre back were miles apart for the Agyei goal.

Still, it's another negative story about CCFC from the Telegraph.

Kingokings204 · Aug 26, 2016

Nick said:
Mowbray said it was his choice didn't he?

Was it really?

Nick · Aug 26, 2016

Kingokings204 said:
Was it really?

So he is lying?

It is getting a bit embarrassing at how keen people are to keep the rage up.

luwalla · Aug 26, 2016

Nick said:
Mowbray said it was his choice didn't he?

Genuine question.. Did he?

If he did then that answers the question I guess, but thought he was still under contract with us... So wasn't really his choice

Nick · Aug 26, 2016

luwalla said:
Genuine question.. Did he?

If he did then that answers the question I guess, but thought he was still under contract with us... So wasn't really his choice

I mean Mowbray's choice

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Aug 26, 2016

Like with Aaron Martin, I can accept letting him go if we bring someone in that is at least of the same standard if not better.

The thing is, we'll have to wait until Wednesday to find out if that's happened.

I am worried at the lack of people in the team willing to make a tackle though, we'd get out muscled by the Coventry United Ladies team at the moment.

Nick · Aug 26, 2016

We have been like it for years, even last season Vincelot turned into a bit of a pussy.

It took Lamieries to wind Millwall up, he is about the only one who seems to get a bit wound up and stick a boot in.

Grendel · Aug 26, 2016

Mowbray wouldn't even play him in midfield towards the end of last season and results improved.

Fucking hell he's past 30 and has played for mediocre clubs all his life and now can't even play in his correct position.

luwalla · Aug 26, 2016

Ahh Mowbray let him go... Understand now, still, strange decision then. Can only presume he had someone better lined up & that either fell through or is still waiting to happen, but either way he needed to free up Vincent's wages maybe

Martin180 · Aug 26, 2016

Another ex-player who suddenly becomes amazing ......

ajsccfc · Aug 26, 2016

I'd have happily kept him, but there were a few times where he gave the ball away in the worst possible positions so I'd hope for Bradford's sake they don't intend on him playing at the back for them all season.

Martin180 · Aug 26, 2016

Would someone like Lawton be seen as his long term replacement?

Nick · Aug 26, 2016

Martin180 said:
Would someone like Lawton be seen as his long term replacement?

Have never seen him play, but from the way he has been described and from how he comes across he would bring a bit of passion into the team.

Martin180 · Aug 26, 2016

As dire as things are currently it might force Moggas hand and play more of our academy .Who knows we might unearth 2-3 gems

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Aug 26, 2016

Martin180 said:
As dire as things are currently it might force Moggas hand and play more of our academy .Who knows we might unearth 2-3 gems

And lose every game between now and next Christmas...

italiahorse · Aug 26, 2016

Nick said:
So he is lying?

No, he is under contract

Martin180 · Aug 26, 2016

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
And lose every game between now and next Christmas...

You really believe that would happen ?

afan4life · Aug 26, 2016

Nick said:
Mowbray said it was his choice didn't he?

let me give you a scenario;
TM; I have to have more players and soon
Sisu : Sorry whatever your name is but we don't have any money
TM: What about the sales of Maddison.etc etc etc ?
Sisu: Don't concern yourself with that Tom, its gone
TM: but I don't have enough players to even stay in Div One
Sisu: Well Bradford have offered some money for the French chap with the beard if you say yes you can have some of the dosh Tim
TM; Do it

SO Tony's choice then????

Nick · Aug 26, 2016

afan4life said:
let me give you a scenario;
TM; I have to have more players and soon
Sisu : Sorry whatever your name is but we don't have any money
TM: What about the sales of Maddison.etc etc etc ?
Sisu: Don't concern yourself with that Tom, its gone
TM: but I don't have enough players to even stay in Div One
Sisu: Well Bradford have offered some money for the French chap with the beard if you say yes you can have some of the dosh Tim
TM; Do it

SO Tony's choice then????

First, who is Tom.

Second, we brought in a player after he went didn't we?

Joy Division · Aug 26, 2016

Grendel said:
Mowbray wouldn't even play him in midfield towards the end of last season and results improved.

Fucking hell he's past 30 and has played for mediocre clubs all his life and now can't even play in his correct position.

What does his past history of clubs have to do with anything. Do all our other players have a history of playing for great clubs?

ajsccfc · Aug 26, 2016

afan4life said:
let me give you a scenario;
TM; I have to have more players and soon
Sisu : Sorry whatever your name is but we don't have any money
TM: What about the sales of Maddison.etc etc etc ?
Sisu: Don't concern yourself with that Tom, its gone
TM: but I don't have enough players to even stay in Div One
Sisu: Well Bradford have offered some money for the French chap with the beard if you say yes you can have some of the dosh Tim
TM; Do it

SO Tony's choice then????

afan4life invents ascenario4awhine

SkyBlueCharlie · Aug 26, 2016

The real issue for me is letting both Fleck and Vincelot go without effectively replacing either of them. When you rip the heart out of your midfield you just have expect problems.

Nick · Aug 26, 2016

SkyBlueCharlie said:
The real issue for me is letting both Fleck and Vincelot go without effectively replacing either of them. When you rip the heart out of your midfield you just have expect problems.

Isn't that why he brought Gadzev / Rose in and then added McCann?

luwalla · Aug 26, 2016

Martin180 said:
Another ex-player who suddenly becomes amazing ......

Don't think anyone is saying that...

Deleted member 2477 · Aug 26, 2016

Its funny how most last season were saying vincelot was the player we had been missing for several years and his performancies were making him a contender for player of the season are now saying he was crap and average. If we had the choice im sure he would get in our team now and improve it but as usual some on here and cet site seem to think they know best aka grendel.

Vincelot showed passion and agression in our midfield which we lack now. He only slumped when the rest of team did so going on grendels comments we should have got rid of them all as they were shit

Nick · Aug 26, 2016

marcusp said:
Its funny how most last season were saying vincelot was the player we had been missing for several years and his performancies were making him a contender for player of the season are now saying he was crap and average. If we had the choice im sure he would get in our team now and improve it but as usual some on here and cet site seem to think they know best aka grendel.

Vincelot showed passion and agression in our midfield which we lack now. He only slumped when the rest of team did so going on grendels comments we should have got rid of them all as they were shit

The first lot of games (maybe 10 - 15) he was a warrior. He was going in on people and usually taking a yellow. He was winning most things in the air and scored a couple of goals.

Then the second half he was nowhere, I cant remember which game it was where he got absolutely bullied (It could have been Morsy when he was at Chesterfield) but Vincelot stood about 10-15 yards away from him every time. He was petrified of him.

SkyBlueCharlie · Aug 26, 2016

Nick said:
Isn't that why he brought Gadzev / Rose in and then added McCann?

I did say ' effectively'!

Nick · Aug 26, 2016

SkyBlueCharlie said:
I did say ' effectively'!

Then again it is on Mowbray, it is not as if they were panicked as he knew in advance and got them in ready.

Grendel · Aug 26, 2016

Classic!

John it's a no brainer really.On the Monday TM was explaining his plans for the midfield which when reading his comments was obviously being built around Vincelot.On the Wednesday he was on his way to Bradford for what TM described as footballing reasons.No Mr Mowbray he was sold for cash reasons. Seppala it seems made you sell him if that was not the case why did you not keep him,footballing reasons my a**e. There are two lots of guilty parties here.Firstly the fans who have selfishly supported SISU when they must know they are prolonging the agony.When supporters refused to go to Northampton CCFC were brought to heel despite the wicked witch claiming she would never return as a tenant.Had the fans adopted the same attitude at the Ricoh then SISU would have been forced to act Obviously SISU are the main cause of our decline,when will the fans realise that hedgefunders are like vultures.They pick the carcass clean then leave it to wither away.Sadly the withering process has begun.

fernandopartridge · Aug 26, 2016

marcusp said:
Its funny how most last season were saying vincelot was the player we had been missing for several years and his performancies were making him a contender for player of the season are now saying he was crap and average. If we had the choice im sure he would get in our team now and improve it but as usual some on here and cet site seem to think they know best aka grendel.

Vincelot showed passion and agression in our midfield which we lack now. He only slumped when the rest of team did so going on grendels comments we should have got rid of them all as they were shit

He was awful after christmas. I remember posting on here after the Barnsley away game about how bad he was.

Deleted member 2477 · Aug 26, 2016

So were murphy, armstrong and others. His dip in form started when the rest of the team did

hill83 · Aug 26, 2016

I rated him. I would have kept him. Mowbray obviously didn't rate him and hasn't kept him.

Lovely beard though.

What I will say though, I defended Mowbrays decision at the time and still just about do. But the longer the shitshow of results carries on the less inclined I'll be to do that.

Otis · Aug 26, 2016

hill83 said:
I rated him. I would have kept him. Mowbray obviously didn't rate him and hasn't kept him.

Lovely beard though.

What I will say though, I defended Mowbrays decision at the time and still just about do. But the longer the shitshow of results carries on the less inclined I'll be to do that.

I liked him. He was a different player though in the new year as Fernando said.

It was like having two different players. First half of the season he was my favourite player. Second half he became a liability.

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