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Podcast Sky Blues Fans TV interview with Grace McKenna from the Sky Blue Trust (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Oct 8, 2021
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #71
usskyblue said:
I’m calling bullshit. For a start, unless you lived in or nr Coventry and were free on a Monday night, no one could do fuckall.

We have asked the Trust for years to create online inclusion to make involvement easier. Guess how that went?

And for those that can’t or don’t want to be involved, is it too much to expect some semblance of objectivity? Balance?

What your saying is; … it’s okay they’re arseholes but it’s everyone else’s fault because they don’t want to run it instead.
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Really is that what I’m saying. Have a look through the thread!

The last agm was on line, communication is by email and they’ve updated the website to enable what you say to happen. Looks like they’ve done everything you wanted.

They are much more balanced in their outlook these last 18 months.

I’m really not saying what you’ve just said at all

And have you listened to the interview. Grace isn’t an arsehole
 
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usskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #72
Sky Blue Pete said:
Really is that what I’m saying. Have a look through the thread!

The last agm was on line, communication is by email and they’ve updated the website to enable what you say to happen. Looks like they’ve done everything you wanted.

They are much more balanced in their outlook these last 18 months.

I’m really not saying what you’ve just said at all

And have you listened to the interview. Grace isn’t an arsehole
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So the core of the Trust has changed and members can vote online now ?
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #73
usskyblue said:
So the core of the Trust has changed and members can vote online now ?
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If by core you mean dave Eyles the council guy and Bruce no they are involved. But all the other board members are new and there are no votes on line but there are meetings on line
 
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usskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #74
Sky Blue Pete said:
And have you listened to the interview. Grace isn’t an arsehole
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I didn’t call her one, it was a scenario.

And yes, I did. She sounds ‘nice’. 15 minutes of ‘Who’s your favorite player/game/away game blah blah. We’ve got a new website (whoop)… away prices etc. No indication of any real change in approach.

Sky Blue Pete said:
If by core you mean day Eyles the council guy and Bruce no they are involved. But all the other board members are new and there are no votes on line but there are meetings on line
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Call me when they actually want fan involvement
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #75
Sky Blue Pete said:
If by core you mean day Eyles the council guy and Bruce no they are involved. But all the other board members are new and there are no votes on line but there are meetings on line
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Lionel Bird still involved?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #76
usskyblue said:
I didn’t call her one, my issue is with the core.
And yes, I did. She sounds ‘nice’. 15 minutes of ‘Who’s your favorite player/game/away game blah blah. We’ve got a new website (whoop)… away prices etc. No indication of any real change in approach.



Call me when they actually want fan involvement
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Genuinely what makes you think they don’t? Is it just a power thing you think?
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #77
Frostie said:
Lionel Bird still involved?
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Not on the board
 
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Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #78
Sky Blue Pete said:
Not on the board
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Really? He was "elected" (co-opted) in 2020, term is 2-3 years & no mention in AGM of him standing down?
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #79

skybluetrust.co.uk

Dit domein kan te koop zijn!
www.skybluetrust.co.uk
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #80
What’s Tim Kalns up to nowadays?
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #81
Sky Blue Pete said:

skybluetrust.co.uk

Dit domein kan te koop zijn!
www.skybluetrust.co.uk
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"Bruce reported that Ian Devoy and Frank Smith had left the Board. The Chair wished to thank them for the time and effort which they had put into the Trust’s work. Jamie Gordon had also left the Board."

No mention of Bird so obviously still there.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #82
You’re absolutely right frostie sorry

Lionel bird is still involved

skybluetrust.co.uk

Dit domein kan te koop zijn!
www.skybluetrust.co.uk
 
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Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #83
Sky Blue Pete said:
You’re absolutely right frostie sorry

Lionel bird is still involved

skybluetrust.co.uk

Dit domein kan te koop zijn!
www.skybluetrust.co.uk
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #84
Frostie said:
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Who are the bad ones?
 

BUSA

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #85
To be fair if you listened to the pod grace said the Trust want more fans who go home and away on board alongside getting new members as well so they get more input on the problems cov fans are experiencing. They seem willing to take on board people’s comments & constructive feedback. Supporters trusts work well at other clubs so why can’t ours work for us fans ?
 

usskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #86
BUSA said:
To be fair if you listened to the pod grace said the Trust want more fans who go home and away on board alongside getting new members as well so they get more input on the problems cov fans are experiencing. They seem willing to take on board people’s comments & constructive feedback. Supporters trusts work well at other clubs so why can’t ours work for us fans ?
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BUSA said:
I’ve just joined yesterday
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #87
BUSA said:
To be fair if you listened to the pod grace said the Trust want more fans who go home and away on board alongside getting new members as well so they get more input on the problems cov fans are experiencing. They seem willing to take on board people’s comments & constructive feedback. Supporters trusts work well at other clubs so why can’t ours work for us fans ?
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A start would be to stop entertaining Roger Ellis - he is seen as an unsavoury character and not someone I think is fit to speak on behalf of fans
 
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RegTheDonk

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  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #88
Sky Blue Pete said:
Or how this board views the trust rather than the public. I think some posters would be surprised and I don’t think it would be me
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Thing is Pete I wouldn't be surprised. Here, while we have some colourful debates to say the least, you have a reasonably intelligent group of people looking into the activities and interests of the Trust, its Board and it's connections. I speak to family and friends, who don't bother much with social media or the web in general, but still are City fans. Their knowledge of the Trust is down to reading the Telegraph or a sound bite on CWR or Central, who see the Trust as the go to guys with their fingers on the pulse of the fan base. I've yet to hear any of these media outlets question the Trusts motives or alliances. I'm really grateful you are in a position to give honest feedback to us when you go to the supporters clubs meetings but I'll bet secretly there are a few there who don't want people who represent any kind of fan base who have active discussions that might not follow the established direction.... and wish you would bugger off.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #89
What annoys me is that they originally said they don’t want to represent the fans, they represent their members.

once there is an opportunity to have an online platform where we can vote a more accessible way than the squirrel on a Monday night - ill take them seriously
 
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Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #90
BUSA said:
To be fair if you listened to the pod grace said the Trust want more fans who go home and away on board alongside getting new members as well so they get more input on the problems cov fans are experiencing. They seem willing to take on board people’s comments & constructive feedback. Supporters trusts work well at other clubs so why can’t ours work for us fans ?
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Most of the same people that caused all the issues in the past are still pulling the strings now hence why nobody else wants to be involved with their little echo chamber.

Lionel Bird (and his right hand man David Johnson) is literally the guy having meetings with Mutton & the council about putting the club into administration, having a phoenix club etc. & here he is claiming to represent the best interests of the club. Couldn't make it up.

Until it's ALL new blood there will be no trust in the Trust from me.
 
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BUSA

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #91

skybluetrust.co.uk

Dit domein kan te koop zijn!
www.skybluetrust.co.uk
 

BUSA

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2021
  • #92
BUSA said:

skybluetrust.co.uk

Dit domein kan te koop zijn!
www.skybluetrust.co.uk
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No mention of Ellis or Johnson being involved in meetings at Trust based on those minutes
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 10, 2021
  • #93
BUSA said:
No mention of Ellis or Johnson being involved in meetings at Trust based on those minutes
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Where have you been for years?
 
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BUSA

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2021
  • #94
Nick said:
Where have you been for years?
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I meant recent meetings
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2021
  • #95
I'm amazed no one has asked how the Trust knows if you have opened one of their emails or not.
 

BUSA

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2021
  • #96
In all seriousness we are looking to have other ppl from the Trust on a future podcast so if there are questions that ppl want to ask we can collate them and ask the Trust to answer them
 

ccfctommy

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2021
  • #97
Frostie said:
Most of the same people that caused all the issues in the past are still pulling the strings now hence why nobody else wants to be involved with their little echo chamber.

Lionel Bird (and his right hand man David Johnson) is literally the guy having meetings with Mutton & the council about putting the club into administration, having a phoenix club etc. & here he is claiming to represent the best interests of the club. Couldn't make it up.

Until it's ALL new blood there will be no trust in the Trust from me.
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I have to agree. Change the membership prices to a yearly fee and start afresh with new faces. Lionel Bird hasn't been to a home game in years.
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2021
  • #98
BUSA said:
In all seriousness we are looking to have other ppl from the Trust on a future podcast so if there are questions that ppl want to ask we can collate them and ask the Trust to answer them
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They have had thousands of survey results telling them exactly what people think, what do you think changed?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 10, 2021
  • #99
Philosorapter said:
I'm amazed no one has asked how the Trust knows if you have opened one of their emails or not.
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Presumably they’re using email marketing software, it’s a common feature.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Oct 10, 2021
  • #100
Sick Boy said:
Presumably they’re using email marketing software, it’s a common feature.
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You mean spy trackers?

'Spy pixels in emails have become endemic'

Email app Hey reveals that two-thirds of the messages it handles contain the hidden trackers.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 10, 2021
  • #101
Philosorapter said:
You mean spy trackers?

'Spy pixels in emails have become endemic'

Email app Hey reveals that two-thirds of the messages it handles contain the hidden trackers.
www.bbc.co.uk
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No it’s something completely different.
It’s a common feature in email marketing platforms. You can see the open and click rates, where users have clicked in the emails and even which email addresses have opened the emails with the date and time.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 10, 2021
  • #102
BUSA said:
In all seriousness we are looking to have other ppl from the Trust on a future podcast so if there are questions that ppl want to ask we can collate them and ask the Trust to answer them
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Other people like who?
 
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BUSA

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2021
  • #103
Whoever the trust can provide for our pods - is there anyone in particular you’d like to hear from Nick ?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 10, 2021
  • #104
BUSA said:
Whoever the trust can provide for our pods - is there anyone in particular you’d like to hear from Nick ?
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I'm asking, who else is there?
 

BUSA

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2021
  • #105
I believe there is at least one other person who does the media for the trust who was mentioned when we were in discussions re getting someone on the pod. Like I said Nick or anyone who do you want on it ? I can ask the question and see if said person(s) are available to join a pod & field questions?
 
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