So you wanted Sisu to win it ?
Not really. I think the common meaning of the phrase "I/we welcome the verdict" is that it was the correct verdict. I don't think that's in dispute is it?
I'm not saying that the words wasn't chosen carefully but it's certainly not saying lets crack open the bubbly and all hail the all conquering council. You're putting that spin on it all by yourself.
So by correct verdict you been the one you wanted, ie as it's said by victims families when people get sent down etc.
Did you welcome the fact they were allowed to appeal?Better than TF's previous quote on a past decision - "wrong in law and wrong on fact" - when the decision went against SISU. Obviously several high ranking legal people seem to think otherwise. We should welcome the decision as it brings clarity to the dispute. Nothing wrong with welcoming clarity in this saga. Now that we have clarity on the past, it would be sensible for SISU to divert their resources into moving forward on the stadium issue. We need long term stability through some form of security of tenure.
So what you mean is you don't like being disagreed with? Strange though, not many complaints from you or Steve when people got hammered for going to sixfields? Must be that it's fine as long as it agreeing with you.
People disagree all the time, it's part of a forum.
It was about justice, the law wasn't broken and it was correct that sisu paid court fees.
I wasn't shouting about wanting anybody to win, I said I wanted justice for what they were there for.
The court case wasn't about morals was it? Just because something isn't breaking the law, it doesn't mean they are being morally right does it?
Do you think that the verdict was incorrect?
Feck me ,all this shit because the trust put out a statement . Well done Trust ,keep up the work ! Dont listen to the whingers
The release from SBT says - "The Sky Blue Trust welcomes the announcement of the Appeal Court verdict regarding the Judicial Review into Coventry City Council providing financial support for Arena Coventry Limited (ACL)."
Why are people turning this to "We welcome the verdict"?
The rest of the statement goes on to say people are now wanting to draw a line under this and let's move forward.
Therefore, welcoming the announcement that a verdict has been reached means this process could now start, not offering an opinion about the verdict.
I'm not arguing wiht 4 judges, they know more than me
however, welcoming the verdict means it is the one you wanted. Like how people welcomed the hillsborough verdict etc. It is worded to read they wanted SISU to lose.
The fact there was no statement when they won the right to appeal is telling, what would the statement have been if the council had lost? I'd give good odds there wouldn't be one.
So you agree that the four judges delivered the right verdict. Surely you welcome it then? The only reason not to welcome it would be if you think it's wrong. It's that simple really. Why you feel the need to spin it into something else is beyond me.
so why wasn't the verdict of allowing an appeal welcomed?
It isn't so much what they are trying to get across I disagree with, it is the way they go about it and only speak out when it is against SISU. (which is all well and good, but at least balance it out with good things about the club..)
The best feedback is the negative, constructive feedback isn't it?
I won't hold my breathe
Spin, spin, spin, spin. Allowing an appeal to progress isn't a verdict - it's not the conclusion - it's just a decision there are merits in an appeal being heard.
However, why have you posted above that they'd said they welcomed the verdict when this isn't the case?
I agree with nick "welcolme" gives the impression that they are pleased with the outcome, if they meant that they are pleased that this is the end of a legal process and all its implications for the club they they should have made that clearer, what difference does JR1 finishing make when JR2 is just around the corner.
I think there anti-SISU bias is too obvious. We need the SBT to call out all sides WASP CCC SISU to determine a long term solution for the club. As an example when Higgs or ACL or CCC referred to SISU they always called them the Mayfair Hedge Fund. Going forward can the SBTrust refer to the ricoh in all correspondence as "the stadium built originally for CCFC" - I'm not being childish I think WASPS CCC need reminding of this.
It isn't spin is it? The trust didn't mention the right to appeal, they would know as they were outside the court handing flyers out to people but didn't mention what happened or make a statement? By verdict, I clearly meant the decision to let them appeal.
Welcoming the announcement of the verdict, same thing
I agree with the actual point they are trying to get across, just disagree with the way they do it.
But the thing is, you can't make statements like welcoming the verdict then wonder why the club don't work with them.
Keep it a neutral statement, you can say things in different ways.
Like "we hope the court battles stop" without all of the digs as well.
All well and good having the digs and snipes, just can't really moan when people point out it's all about being anti sisu or that the club don't work with them.
Then there is the complete silence about the appeal going ahead, just put out neutral statements as the trust, then by all means hate them as individuals.
Strange how the actual statement "The Sky Blue Trust welcomes the announcement ofthe Appeal Court verdict" has become abbreviated to "The Trust welcomes the verdict" in your posts.
Yes it is spin. You've questioned why they've dealt with the two 'verdicts' different - well that'll be because the first one wasn't a verdict!
Strange how the actual statement "The Sky Blue Trust welcomes the announcement ofthe Appeal Court verdict" has become abbreviated to "The Trust welcomes the verdict" in your posts.
Strange how the actual statement "The Sky Blue Trust welcomes the announcement ofthe Appeal Court verdict" has become abbreviated to "The Trust welcomes the verdict" in your posts.
Coventry City FC's largest supporter group welcomed the Court of Appeal's decision yesterday clearing Coventry City Council of any wrong doing
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/sky-blue-trust-urge-coventry-11332359
This does raise an issue with the Trust. Very little has been seen or heard for a while now. The regular open meetings seem to have become far less frequent, can't even remember when the last one was. As I member its been a long time since I was asked for my opinion on anything.
For me the trust either needs to be active and visible at all times or stay silent. They shouldn't be there at the beck and call of the local media, only summoned when there is something that shows the owners in a poor light.
Laughed when I realised the CT has done the same.
Apparently, according to Nick, they're the same thing. Personally not quite sure how he's worked that out.
Apparently, according to Nick, they're the same thing. Personally not quite sure how he's worked that out.
OK, the first "decision".
They were outside court handing out flyers but didn't mention the "decision" at all?
Except for the interview with a Trust Spokesperson on BBC Cov & Warwick on Phil Upton that evening
I guess it will be corrected, as they obviously read it the same way...
This does raise an issue with the Trust. Very little has been seen or heard for a while now. The regular open meetings seem to have become far less frequent, can't even remember when the last one was. As I member its been a long time since I was asked for my opinion on anything.
For me the trust either needs to be active and visible at all times or stay silent. They shouldn't be there at the beck and call of the local media, only summoned when there is something that shows the owners in a poor light.
Did they? Maybe it was spin, I know Les Reid always deploys heavy calibre adjectives in support of his strong opinions.
This lass has skilfully deleted a vital noun, in the first paragraph and again further down as if to drive the idea home.
As for you, I don't think you even realised what you did, I didn't notice it either, it took lamtara's forensic skills to point it out.
Why did their leaders get given VIP tickets to watch Wasps?
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