Sky blue trust motion (1 Viewer)

Grendel · Jun 25, 2019

I would like to know as a member of the trust how you can put a policy motion in that will be discussed at one of the upcoming meetings? Does it require a number of other members to support the motion?

Can a motion be suggested on line and then this can be confirmed by the board the meeting date that this will then be discussed? How can it be made to be discussed?

Then can someone please explain the process for approval of the motion? Is this a ballot of all members of restricted to those who end the meeting at which the motion is discussed?

Pete in Portugal · Jun 25, 2019

Grendel said:
I would like to know as a member of the trust how you can put a policy motion in that will be discussed at one of the upcoming meetings? Does it require a number of other members to support the motion?

Can a motion be suggested on line and then this can be confirmed by the board the meeting date that this will then be discussed? How can it be made to be discussed?

Then can someone please explain the process for approval of the motion? Is this a ballot of all members of restricted to those who end the meeting at which the motion is discussed?

The Trust Secretary, whoever that is, should be able to answer these questions. Easier than having to plough through the Trust's standing orders.

Edit: Roger Ellis is Secretary, according to their web-site.

Grendel · Jun 25, 2019

Pete in Portugal said:
The Trust Secretary, whoever that is, should be able to answer these questions. Easier than having to plough through the Trust's standing orders.

Edit: Roger Ellis is Secretary, according to their web-site.

Mr Ellis does not use this forum - he is very active on Twitter however.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Jun 25, 2019

Grendel said:
Mr Ellis does not use this forum - he is very active on Twitter however.

Then fucking ask him rather than coming on here acting the twat. Then you can come back on here with the answer can't you

fernandopartridge · Jun 25, 2019

Grendel said:
I would like to know as a member of the trust how you can put a policy motion in that will be discussed at one of the upcoming meetings? Does it require a number of other members to support the motion?

Can a motion be suggested on line and then this can be confirmed by the board the meeting date that this will then be discussed? How can it be made to be discussed?

Then can someone please explain the process for approval of the motion? Is this a ballot of all members of restricted to those who end the meeting at which the motion is discussed?

You know as well as I do that motions must be moved exclusively by members of the echo chamber.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Jun 25, 2019

fernandopartridge said:
You know as well as I do that motions must be moved exclusively by members of the echo chamber.

Just how many people can you get in your head?

usskyblue · Jun 25, 2019

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Then fucking ask him rather than coming on here acting the twat. Then you can come back on here with the answer can't you

Grendel · Jun 25, 2019

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Then fucking ask him rather than coming on here acting the twat. Then you can come back on here with the answer can't you

How do I contact roger? Why are you so defensive?

torchomatic · Jun 25, 2019

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Then fucking ask him rather than coming on here acting the twat. Then you can come back on here with the answer can't you

Must defend the Trust. Must defend the Trust. Must defend the Trust...

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Jun 25, 2019

As it goes - aren’t they due a statement defending the council and Wasps

skybluetony176 · Jun 25, 2019

Have you tried emailing the Trust and asking them? Or messaged CJ on here?

Grendel · Jun 25, 2019

skybluetony176 said:
Have you tried emailing the Trust and asking them? Or messaged CJ on here?

Well as I’ve messaged on here I’d assume he will see it. I’ll put twitter message to roger so we can see what the response is.

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Jun 25, 2019

skybluetony176 said:
Have you tried emailing the Trust and asking them? Or messaged CJ on here?

The trust will be busy, Grendel will be looking to criticise the council/wasps - weirdly, The Trust are always busy when this happens.

If SISU were talking bollocks - they’d be all over it

torchomatic · Jun 25, 2019

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
As it goes - aren’t they due a statement defending the council and Wasps

I imagine they're drafting it at the moment.

skybluetony176 · Jun 25, 2019

Grendel said:
Well as I’ve messaged on here I’d assume he will see it. I’ll put twitter message to roger so we can see what the response is.

Try emailing them directly. Here’s a link to their contact page on their website Sky Blue Trust - Contact Us

oldskyblue58 · Jun 25, 2019

Its on the website G. Under the drop down of constitution

RIGHTS AND POWERS OF MEMBERS 25. The members have the rights and powers available to them under the law relating to Community Benefit Societies and are to decide in particular the issues specifically reserved to them by these Rules.
26. The members may by a resolution carried by not less than two-thirds of the members voting at a general meeting but not otherwise give directions to the Society Board. A member wishing to propose a members’ resolution for consideration at a general meeting shall give notice in writing to the Secretary of such wish, and of the justification for, form and content of the resolution, not later than noon 28 days before that meeting is to be held. The following provisions apply to any directions given:
26.1. any direction must:
26.1.1. be consistent with these Rules and with the Society’s contractual, statutory and other legal obligations;
and 26.1.2. not affect the powers and responsibilities of the Society Board under Rule 27.
26.2. Any person who deals with the Society in good faith and is not aware that a direction has been given may deal with the Society on the basis that no direction has been given.

chiefdave · Jun 25, 2019

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
As it goes - aren’t they due a statement defending the council and Wasps

Doubt they'll have time, hear AC and Inter have called them in to cost the San Siro replacement.

chiefdave · Jun 25, 2019

oldskyblue58 said:
The members may by a resolution carried by not less than two-thirds of the members voting at a general meeting

Grendel wasn't joking, unless you're one of the handful of people who can turn up to a meeting in a pub on a Monday night you don't get a say.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Jun 25, 2019

Grendel said:
How do I contact roger? Why are you so defensive?

I'm not you're the one who said he's on twitter I'm not you obviously are so contact him. I haven't talked to anyone from the trust for ages. Haven't been to meetings but already told you I'm going to the next one to call various people out.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Jun 25, 2019

torchomatic said:
Must defend the Trust. Must defend the Trust. Must defend the Trust...

Same reply to you as I've just given to Grendel.

win9nut · Jun 25, 2019

Can't help you Grendel, I got banned on Twitter for calling LiesReid a twat...

Ricketts · Jun 25, 2019

win9nut said:
Can't help you Grendel, I got banned on Twitter for calling LiesReid a twat...

Surely that's classed as fair comment?

Ricketts · Jun 25, 2019

So can we all join the Trust, vote them out, then it could do what the original intention was (or should've been)

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Jun 25, 2019

Ye

Ricketts said:
So can we all join the Trust, vote them out, then it could do what the original intention was (or should've been)

yes

Deleted member 5849 · Jun 25, 2019

chiefdave said:
Grendel wasn't joking, unless you're one of the handful of people who can turn up to a meeting in a pub on a Monday night you don't get a say.

You coming to the next one?

Ricketts · Jun 25, 2019

At the moment the Trust does not seem to be adhering to its aims and objectives.

Sky Blue Trust - About The Trust

Ricketts · Jun 25, 2019

Last AGM was 16 July, so need to crack on

Deleted member 5849 · Jun 25, 2019

Ricketts said:
Last AGM was 16 July, so need to crack on

It would be nice if their website actually made it easy to find when their next meeting is...

skybluetony176 · Jun 25, 2019

Deleted member 5849 said:
You coming to the next one?

Oh here we go again with the usual if you don’t get involved you only have yourself to blame nonsense.

skybluetony176 · Jun 25, 2019

Deleted member 5849 said:
It would be nice if their website actually made it easy to find when their next meeting is...

June and July calendar both empty at the moment.

chiefdave · Jun 25, 2019

Deleted member 5849 said:
You coming to the next one?

Hopefully but if its a weekday evening again then possibly not. Generally don't get back from work until 7pm or later.

Deleted member 5849 · Jun 25, 2019

chiefdave said:
Hopefully but if its a weekday evening again then possibly not. Generally don't get back from work until 7pm or later.

Excellent. From memory that's about when they start, so assuming you're in Coventry, there ought to at least be plenty of time left in a meeting by the time you get there.

Grendel · Jun 25, 2019

Deleted member 5849 said:
Excellent. From memory that's about when they start, so assuming you're in Coventry, there ought to at least be plenty of time left in a meeting by the time you get there.

What’s the point if the motion is not approved for discussion

If you are in a union are you allowed to vote without going to a social club?

Deleted member 5849 · Jun 25, 2019

Grendel said:
What’s the point if the motion is not approved for discussion

If you are in a union are you allowed to vote without going to a social club?

Well franbkly I'm not that bothered about your motion If it coincides with me, great, but if not there'll be an AOB where I can give my view as to their support (or lack of) for certain Wasps protests, and how it's imperative they do more (and better!) going forward.

It seems I won't be alone in that view, either.

Grendel · Jun 25, 2019

Deleted member 5849 said:
Well franbkly I'm not that bothered about your motion If it coincides with me, great, but if not there'll be an AOB where I can give my view as to their support (or lack of) for certain Wasps protests, and how it's imperative they do more (and better!) going forward.

It seems I won't be alone in that view, either.

It does t even bother you that the secretary - roger Ellis - has to approve a motion and even if it gets that far 66% of attendees have to approve as policy?

I could put a motion together and have 500 trust members agree this and then it still gets rejected?

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