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Florence1898

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  • Dec 12, 2013
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http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/football-news/sky-blue-thinking-blogs-links-6400024. Alan Poole fans hero of Coventry Telegraph chances his luck on the back of The Guardian Article, great read and at last we Cov Fans can say we have a local journalist friend, Reid I hope you take great JOY in your behaviour
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 12, 2013
  • #2
http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/39975-Just-the-link-just-in-case!!

Yours has a better title though.
 
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Florence1898

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  • Dec 12, 2013
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Call it a combined effort to spread the word, we have a voice at last in the CT
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Dec 12, 2013
  • #4
Well if you like it try sending a compliment to..
Editor

Alun Thorne

Email: alun.thorne@trinitymirror.com

Tel: 024 76 500353

Send your news stories to:news@coventrytelegraph.net

Ring the Coventry news desk on 024 76 500457 or 024 76 500316

Contact our Nuneaton news desk on 02476 500 302

Send your sports stories to: sport@coventrytelegraph.net

Ring the sports desk on 024 76 500 323
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Grendel

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  • Dec 12, 2013
  • #5
I thought journalists who work for a crappy paper like the CET are all crap old hacks?
 

ohitsaidwalker king power

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  • Dec 12, 2013
  • #6
Grendel said:
I thought journalists who work for a crappy paper like the CET are all crap old hacks?
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Normal distribution and outliers.
 
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simple_simon

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  • Dec 12, 2013
  • #7
Grendel said:
I thought journalists who work for a crappy paper like the CET are all crap old hacks?
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Very decent article, by someone who does not work directly for the Telegraph.
 

torchomatic

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  • Dec 12, 2013
  • #8
Good article that.
 
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georgehudson

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  • Dec 12, 2013
  • #9
a very interesting set of viewpoints, based largely on historic 'own goals' from our owners,
imho, that is;
of course if JS delves into the actions of those she employs,
who knows what could be revealed, & will they keep their job(s) ?

spoke with a vile fan tonight, & despite our obvious differences,
he was unable to comprehend any reason for our owners,
to have continually acted in such a way, other that the 'obvious distress / grab' manoevre,
PUSB
 
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Noggin

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  • Dec 13, 2013
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Grendel said:
I thought journalists who work for a crappy paper like the CET are all crap old hacks?
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damn you're an idiot, you really have to be the most destructive poster, so if your plan is to be a wum congrats, if your plan is to argue your points you could hardly be worse at it. You take a comment from someone to such a ludicrous extreme level to which it doesn't remotely compare to what they actually said and criticise it, it's done by people completely incapable of proper debating.

The CET and Les Reid in particular have deserved and thus have received criticism, when the paper does something right as in this case they deserve and have received praise. That shows the people who both complain and praise to be well balanced, unbiased and reasonable people who are judging on actions alone. You could take a huge leaf out of this book.
 
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Astute

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  • Dec 13, 2013
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Grendel said:
I thought journalists who work for a crappy paper like the CET are all crap old hacks?
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Didn't know you worked as a journalist for the CET.
 
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will am i

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  • Dec 13, 2013
  • #12
Grendel said:
I thought journalists who work for a crappy paper like the CET are all crap old hacks?
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Why is it you always feel the need to defend things from a SISU perspective? Not exactly done a good job at running your club have they. Im assuming you are not just a Leicester fan having a laugh.
 

GaryPendrysEyes

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  • Dec 13, 2013
  • #13
It really is a very good article from Alan Poole.
Not content with 'falling out' with Coventry Council, a Coventry charity, Coventry MP's, ignoring 1000's of Coventry fans (and The Coventry Telegraph) calling for no move to Northants, they have now started on the Coventry Skyblue Trust and pissing off of a Coventry journalist..

Sisu vs Coventry is building more day after day.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 13, 2013
  • #14
It is quite funny though, like Grendel has pointed out, once Les Reid lost the plot he became a small time hack.

Who knows what Poole will become once he disagrees with the SBT consensus.
 

GaryPendrysEyes

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  • Dec 13, 2013
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fernandopartridge said:
It is quite funny though, like Grendel has pointed out, once Les Reid lost the plot he became a small time hack.

Who knows what Poole will become once he disagrees with the SBT consensus.
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Any comment on what Alan Poole actually said?? or the threatening atmosphere Sisu are creating at the moment re open discussion and debate??
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 13, 2013
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GaryPendrysEyes said:
Any comment on what Alan Poole actually said?? or the threatening atmosphere Sisu are creating at the moment re open discussion and debate??
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No this lot specialise in vague comments and accusations and no actual facts or defensible argument.

Much like Sisu really.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 13, 2013
  • #17
shmmeee said:
No this lot specialise in vague comments and accusations and no actual facts or defensible argument.

Much like Sisu really.
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What I think Is changing to an extent Is Poole, Turner and possibly Clive @ CWR are changing /tack and starting to emphasise the Disdain and Disregard shown to the vast body of fans and blatant economic sense to the "Clubs" financial position a Ricoh return makes.

Edit; Meaning *of * to * shown to*
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 13, 2013
  • #18
GaryPendrysEyes said:
Any comment on what Alan Poole actually said?? or the threatening atmosphere Sisu are creating at the moment re open discussion and debate??
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No, I haven't read it.
 
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Noggin

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  • Dec 13, 2013
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fernandopartridge said:
It is quite funny though, like Grendel has pointed out, once Les Reid lost the plot he became a small time hack.

Who knows what Poole will become once he disagrees with the SBT consensus.
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Again, once les reid lost the plot he started to get criticised, if he finds the plot again he will be praised, thats exactly how we should be acting, it's not funny in the slightest.

It's the people who criticise even when someone is doing something good, and the people who praise and defend even when someone is doing something bad, those are the unreasonable people.

Now I'm sure you will come back saying even when sisu do right they receive criticism and to a certain extent that is a fair point, however what they have done wrong is so vast and so damaging to Coventry City football club that what they do right pails so strongly in comparison as to make it almost meaningless and they are continuing to do the main wrong thing of moving us out of the city. So it's completely understandable and probably even right that they receive criticism on every thread involving them perhaps even when they have done something very right like bringing home the academy especially if the criticizers acknowledges they have done a good thing here while criticising.
 
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The Gentleman

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  • Dec 13, 2013
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fernandopartridge said:
It is quite funny though, like Grendel has pointed out, once Les Reid lost the plot he became a small time hack.

Who knows what Poole will become once he disagrees with the SBT consensus.
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To be honest, from what I have read of Les Reid's in the past, I don't rate what he puts down on paper. If he was that good, why isn't he a big time journalist reporting on international affairs for all the big news agencies around the world, or does he just love Coventry that much ?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 13, 2013
  • #21
shmmeee said:
No this lot specialise in vague comments and accusations and no actual facts or defensible argument.

Much like Sisu really.
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'This lot'

I wish I could deal in fact like you do- like the other week when you wrote off the appeal to get the JR heard before the case had even reached court.....
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 13, 2013
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The Gentleman said:
To be honest, from what I have read of Les Reid's in the past, I don't rate what he puts down on paper. If he was that good, why isn't he a big time journalist reporting on international affairs for all the big news agencies around the world, or does he just love Coventry that much ?
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I don't rate him either. He's lost the plot (like I said in my post).

I think the reality of the situation is somewhere between the general consensus on here and the picture painted by Les Reid.
 

magic82ball

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  • Dec 13, 2013
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fernandopartridge said:
It is quite funny though, like Grendel has pointed out, once Les Reid lost the plot he became a small time hack.

Who knows what Poole will become once he disagrees with the SBT consensus.
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God you SISU lot are thick aren't you. Ever stop to think it is the losing of said plot that makes them no longer credible? And that he was just a small time hack before losing the plot? or have I missed something, is he a leading journalist for renowned national newspapers and winning awards? Oh no, that would be David Conn, he's very good, you should give his article a read, highlights our plight perfectly.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 13, 2013
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magic82ball said:
God you SISU lot are thick aren't you. Ever stop to think it is the losing of said plot that makes them no longer credible? And that he was just a small time hack before losing the plot? or have I missed something, is he a leading journalist for renowned national newspapers and winning awards? Oh no, that would be David Conn, he's very good, you should give his article a read, highlights our plight perfectly.
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Was Les Reid a small time hack prior to losing the plot then? Yes or No. He either is and he lost the plot or isn't an lost the plot.
 
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The Gentleman

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  • Dec 13, 2013
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fernandopartridge said:
I don't rate him either. He's lost the plot (like I said in my post).

I think the reality of the situation is somewhere between the general consensus on here and the picture painted by Les Reid.
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I think the reality of the situation is where no one has the slightest clue what is going on, we hear snipets from people like Fisher, Labovitch, Reid, Waggot and there is never a firm party line between them, it's always slighty different and fragmented from them all the time. The reason I haven't put ACL/CCC in that bracket is because we have heard very little at all from them so all we have to go on is what we are feed from the ones I mentioned. It's what makes this whole saga so confusing, if you want the Ricoh make an offer, if you want a new stadium, buy a plot of land and go from there. As we don't get either, what is anyone supposed to make from all this god only knows (and that's because Joy told him).
 

Astute

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  • Dec 13, 2013
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fernandopartridge said:
It is quite funny though, like Grendel has pointed out, once Les Reid lost the plot he became a small time hack.

Who knows what Poole will become once he disagrees with the SBT consensus.
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So yes, a lot of us lost respect for him once he met Joy then became another mouthpiece for them.
 

Astute

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  • Dec 13, 2013
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fernandopartridge said:
Was Les Reid a small time hack prior to losing the plot then? Yes or No. He either is and he lost the plot or isn't an lost the plot.
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Don't you find it funny that a multi award winning investigative journalist who has next to nothing to do with Coventry can see things so differently than Les?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 13, 2013
  • #28
The Gentleman said:
I think the reality of the situation is where no one has the slightest clue what is going on, we hear snipets from people like Fisher, Labovitch, Reid, Waggot and there is never a firm party line between them, it's always slighty different and fragmented from them all the time. The reason I haven't put ACL/CCC in that bracket is because we have heard very little at all from them so all we have to go on is what we are feed from the ones I mentioned. It's what makes this whole saga so confusing, if you want the Ricoh make an offer, if you want a new stadium, buy a plot of land and go from there. As we don't get either, what is anyone supposed to make from all this god only knows (and that's because Joy told him).
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The one thing we've never heard is "We're going to make an offer" from the SISU side and "We're going to name our price" from the CCC side. We get talk of meetings about meetings, discussions about discussions, deals about deals.

Sorry, I meant my side, not SISU side.
 

magic82ball

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  • Dec 13, 2013
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fernandopartridge said:
Was Les Reid a small time hack prior to losing the plot then? Yes or No. He either is and he lost the plot or isn't an lost the plot.
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I wasn't wrong when I said you SISU lot are thick was I...

Treat yourself and have another read of my post, for there in lies the answer to your rudimentary question. I will give you a clue though for it is clear that you struggle, the answer is in the bit that reads "that he was just a small time hack BEFORE losing the plot"
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 13, 2013
  • #30
Astute said:
Don't you find it funny that a multi award winning investigative journalist who has next to nothing to do with Coventry can see things so differently than Les?
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No, it depends what you've been exposed to doesn't it? Has David Conn approached the club or SISU or has he reported the argument from one side? It isn't or wasn't clear in his article. He reported nothing new but just re-presented various other pieces of information already in the public domain.
 

Astute

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  • Dec 13, 2013
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magic82ball said:
I wasn't wrong when I said you SISU lot are thick was I...

Treat yourself and have another read of my post, for there in lies the answer to your rudimentary question. I will give you a clue though for it is clear that you struggle, the answer is in the bit that reads "that he was just a small time hack BEFORE losing the plot"
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This is so wrong. He is much bigger than Conn as he stands up for SISUE whatever they do or say. Just like a few people we have on here.
 

Astute

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  • Dec 13, 2013
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fernandopartridge said:
No, it depends what you've been exposed to doesn't it? Has David Conn approached the club or SISU or has he reported the argument from one side? It isn't or wasn't clear in his article. He reported nothing new but just re-presented various other pieces of information already in the public domain.
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That only mainly people in Coventry know about. And in a paper that SISUE investors will read. And you must admit well put together as well.
 

magic82ball

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  • Dec 13, 2013
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fernandopartridge said:
No, it depends what you've been exposed to doesn't it? Has David Conn approached the club or SISU or has he reported the argument from one side? It isn't or wasn't clear in his article. He reported nothing new but just re-presented various other pieces of information already in the public domain.
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Where as Les Reid gave a well thought out piece based on sitting down with SISU/ACL/CCC and putting across some hard hitting questions to all parties? I fail to see your very weak point.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 13, 2013
  • #34
magic82ball said:
I wasn't wrong when I said you SISU lot are thick was I...

Treat yourself and have another read of my post, for there in lies the answer to your rudimentary question. I will give you a clue though for it is clear that you struggle, the answer is in the bit that reads "that he was just a small time hack BEFORE losing the plot"
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You've missed the all important question mark:
"that he was just a small time hack BEFORE losing the plot?"
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He was, of course, but posters on here for a period seemed to think he was something else.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 13, 2013
  • #35
magic82ball said:
Where as Les Reid gave a well thought out piece based on sitting down with SISU/ACL/CCC and putting across some hard hitting questions to all parties? I fail to see your very weak point.
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The very weak point is that they both present arguments based on evidence heavily weighted on either side. The problem is with Reid is that he's been sucked into the argument too much and has lost his impartiality.
 
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