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SISU/Otium to sell to Byng & the Chinese ??? (1 Viewer)

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CarpyCov84

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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See Byng was at the game last night with SISU/Otium directors...

Anything in this ??? Possible sale ???
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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Hope not. The guy can't even organise a proper bid and AFAIK had no plans for fan involvement/ownership, vital IMO if we're going to avoid the crap we've been through in the last 25 years.
 
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CarpyCov84

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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shmmeee said:
Hope not. The guy can't even organise a proper bid and AFAIK had no plans for fan involvement/ownership, vital IMO if we're going to avoid the crap we've been through in the last 25 years.
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Good point but it don't hide the fact he was there last night with SISU directors...

Why would that be..........
 

Bennets Afro

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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Didn't he sit in the directors box most of last season???
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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CarpyCov84 said:
Good point but it don't hide the fact he was there last night with SISU directors...

Why would that be..........
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Well I have a sneaky feeling the JR decision, and the finality of the tone to it, might just have changed SISUs master plan and selling up is next on the list. Of course this being Sisu Id expect them to sell anything of value first.

Or maybe he's just a City fan with friends in high places.
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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I think its safe to assume that he can organise a bid but just didnt for whatever reason.

Perhaps Tim had a quiet word in his lughole that if he dropped his bid SISU would do a deal with him once they regained control. Pure speculation but its feasible and would explain why he is seemingly still around.
 
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CarpyCov84

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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I just don't get why he was there last night at Leyton Orient of all places ok it's London he could be based there but it still is very odd...
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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CarpyCov84 said:
I just don't get why he was there last night at Leyton Orient of all places ok it's London he could be based there but it still is very odd...
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He's based in Leamington I believe.
 
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Sba180

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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Hope not. Already openly stated that they have no interest in the football club, which would explain why SISU would want to deal with them and not PH4
 

jimmyhill

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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It could also explain why Mr Byng wasn't too happy with CCC/ACLs tactics regarding the CVA
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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halftimebovril said:
Hope not. Already openly stated that they have no interest in the football club, which would explain why SISU would want to deal with them and not PH4
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Did they? I dont remember seeing that.
 
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CarpyCov84

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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I've just read on les reid's twitter he was told Byng & Chinese only interested if was 100% CCFC & Ricoh together
 

Bennets Afro

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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Then Sisu need to pay the going rate for it
 
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skybluesam66

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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CarpyCov84 said:
I've just read on les reid's twitter he was told Byng & Chinese only interested if was 100% CCFC & Ricoh together
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he could line up 2 side by side transactions
 

skyblueman

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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Don't care at this point who it might be - If SISU don't sell out real quick it's really going to be all over soon
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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skybluesam66 said:
he could line up 2 side by side transactions
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this is what I don't get. whenever he makes a comment he seems to be massively over complicating things. Make a deal to buy everything SISU has and make a deal to buy ACL. If he can't grasp this concept then there's not much hope with him really is there.
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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chiefdave said:
this is what I don't get. whenever he makes a comment he seems to be massively over complicating things. Make a deal to buy everything SISU has and make a deal to buy ACL. If he can't grasp this concept then there's not much hope with him really is there.
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Didnt he say previously that he had a deal in principle agreed with the Higgs to buy their half?
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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Manchester_sky_blue said:
Didnt he say previously that he had a deal in principle agreed with the Higgs to buy their half?
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No idea but he seems to keep moaning about it being 2 separate entities at the moment which doesn't seem that big of a deal to me, it's not the most complex business transaction in the world to buy 2 things and then merge them into 1!!
 
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maxweller

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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Get it done asap, and move on
 
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Sutty

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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Wasn't Byng talking about investing in the club, as opposed to an outright takeover? Would also align with what SISU have been saying for a few years that they'd be interested in co-investment, but not a takeover.
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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chiefdave said:
No idea but he seems to keep moaning about it being 2 separate entities at the moment which doesn't seem that big of a deal to me, it's not the most complex business transaction in the world to buy 2 things and then merge them into 1!!
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Well really, they dont even have to be merged, as long as the two entities are owned by the same people it doesnt really matter, you just make both club and stadium subsidiaries of whatever vehicle you have used to make the purchases.
 

hill83

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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halftimebovril said:
Hope not. Already openly stated that they have no interest in the football club, which would explain why SISU would want to deal with them and not PH4
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Pretty sure that didn't happen. They said their main interest was the Ricoh and the surrounding land, but so what? If to get that part of it is investing in the club then that can only be good news.
 

covcity4life

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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hoffman has been at loads of games and sisu aint sold to him.

keep the faith though
 

Moff

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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Maybe Byng has been wooed by Timmy and just was there for a bit of man love for him
 

italiahorse

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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shmmeee said:
Hope not. The guy can't even organise a proper bid and AFAIK had no plans for fan involvement/ownership, vital IMO if we're going to avoid the crap we've been through in the last 25 years.
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Nobody in there right mind would have bid for CCFC Ltd as it didn't include the players (Should have done but that's a different matter).
Perhaps his business acumen told him he was wasting his time.
To be honest my Mum could do a better job than SISU so bring him on.
 

percy

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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Manchester_sky_blue said:
Well really, they dont even have to be merged, as long as the two entities are owned by the same people it doesnt really matter, you just make both club and stadium subsidiaries of whatever vehicle you have used to make the purchases.
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How would this work with the ffp rules. Would both businesses constitute one overall income?????
 

skyblueinBaku

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  • Aug 7, 2013
  • #27
I can't imagine anyone in their right mind becoming a co-investor with Sisu and working in partnership with them. At least, not unless they had very deep pockets and the best lawyers in the world.
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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percy said:
How would this work with the ffp rules. Would both businesses constitute one overall income?????
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Not sure if, even when merged, all income would be counted. Isn't it just football income? Even if not merged you could do some sort of cross invoicing as ACL proposed in the past.
 

deanocity3

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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http://www.192.com/atoz/business/co...dbe00843edcd6aa66b99678eeebe669f87494af/comp/
http://www.192.com/atoz/business/co...368854e43126f649da936033041525141779df3/comp/
http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/mbpc-infrastructure
byng's companies
 

deanocity3

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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who's a naughty boy
http://www.rics.org/uk/regulation/d...s/mr-michael-byng-2-january--20-january-2010/
 

percy

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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chiefdave said:
Not sure if, even when merged, all income would be counted. Isn't it just football income? Even if not merged you could do some sort of cross invoicing as ACL proposed in the past.
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otherwise why bother. the main objective in purchasing the ricoh is for this very reason isnt it. well it is for us fans and anyone else who has the club at heart anyway.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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Think we now know were the funding for the new ground will be coming from....He said they will be interested in buying if the club and ground are one....They will be when the new grounds built...maybe fishers telling the truth for once...They're not interested in the ricoh.Build a new ground rejoin the club back together and sell it for a nice little profit.....?
 

deanocity3

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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by the time it's built we will be welcoming Beduff utd to the first match in the midland combination league.
 

Diehard Si

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  • Aug 7, 2013
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shmmeee said:
Hope not. The guy can't even organise a proper bid and AFAIK had no plans for fan involvement/ownership, vital IMO if we're going to avoid the crap we've been through in the last 25 years.
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I couldn't give a damn about fan involvement if the person owning it was the right man.
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Aug 7, 2013
  • #35
His interest is the Ricoh because of the rail links and HS2. Cant see the logic in investing in a new stadium...brandon etc wont be in the scheme he proposed which we saw in a pdf a few months ago.
 
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