Sisu gone on Monday? Yanks are coming! (1 Viewer)

Frankley · Sep 25, 2016

Otis said:
Hang on, slightly unfair there and nicely spun.

This was 2001. We were still at HR. And the not being allowed to play at this national stadium would have had nothing to do with the council. It wouldn't have been a decision of their making.

If you look at it from a city of Coventry perspective, we would have ended up with two stadiums, the national stadium and Highfield Road.

I think in the grand scheme of things it would surely have better for this to have happened for all parties, CCFC included.

I don't think I'm being unfair, or spinning.

It was a lot to do with the council, because it was the council that pushed forward a bid for a national football stadium in Coventry.

It seems to always be forgotten (or largely dismissed) how the council was dead set on building a stadium in the north of the city. They were so determined they wanted a stadium that the question of who was going to play in it seemed to be an afterthought.

I agree that the club would have fared better if it had stayed at Highfield Road.

Otis · Sep 25, 2016

Frankley said:
I don't think I'm being unfair, or spinning.

It was a lot to do with the council, because it was the council that pushed forward a bid for a national football stadium in Coventry.

It seems to always be forgotten (or largely dismissed) how the council was dead set on building a stadium in the north of the city. They were so determined they wanted a stadium that the question of who was going to play in it seemed to be an afterthought.

I agree that the club would have fared better if it had stayed at Highfield Road.

I just mean in terms of helping the City out. From the council's perspective we still had Highfield Road.

You surely wouldn't expect them to have put Coventry City ahead of having a stadium for the English national team here would you?

Ibby · Sep 25, 2016

If it happens we will be delighted

Frankley · Sep 25, 2016

Otis said:
I just mean in terms of helping the City out. From the council's perspective we still had Highfield Road.

You surely wouldn't expect them to have put Coventry City ahead of having a stadium for the English national team here would you?

I didn't like the way the council pushed us to one side when the chance of a national football stadium came along.

Captain Dart · Sep 25, 2016

Frankley said:
I don't think I'm being unfair, or spinning.

It was a lot to do with the council, because it was the council that pushed forward a bid for a national football stadium in Coventry.

It seems to always be forgotten (or largely dismissed) how the council was dead set on building a stadium in the north of the city. They were so determined they wanted a stadium that the question of who was going to play in it seemed to be an afterthought.

I agree that the club would have fared better if it had stayed at Highfield Road.

So you are screaming about something that never happened because you think it was unfair to CCFC who you clearly feel should have got preferential treatment and been given the stadium. That as SISU have said in Court is contrary to EU rules. Regeneration was what the site was all about, if the council could have got a grant to build an exhibition centre or marina or space station or whatever they'd have gone for it. The club was lined up then it turned out they had no money and the burden to complete the job fell upon the local tax payer and it was effectively farmed out to CCFC by charging an unmanageable rent. When the National Stadium thing came up it was all about the Council trying to get themselves out of a financial hole, they failed because the search for a new venue was just a political sop to appease the Labour heartlands, after which the politicians could say we really looked but it was clear Wembley was best. CCFC should have been far more circumspect, if Richardson had built a 20K expansible stadium and found another investor to build a hotel & exhibition space in another phase a few years down the line I think the move could have gone well. We were fucked by his grandiose visions but the kernel of that vision was OK.

Nick · Sep 25, 2016

Why has it gone rubbish because I joked about a sliding pitch

Samo · Sep 25, 2016

God I hope something is happening, anything... even if it's the end, I can't bear it anymore.

Hobo · Sep 25, 2016

Nick said:
Why has it gone rubbish because I joked about a sliding pitch

At least I saw the funny side ☺

Sky Blue Harry H · Sep 25, 2016

Samo said:
God I hope something is happening, anything... even if it's the end, I can't bear it anymore.

Did a Samuel Beckett play at school - 'Waiting for Godot' .......feels a lot like this saga. I'd happily pay a few quid to bus them out of here.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Sep 25, 2016

Frankley said:
I don't think I'm being unfair, or spinning.

It was a lot to do with the council, because it was the council that pushed forward a bid for a national football stadium in Coventry.

It seems to always be forgotten (or largely dismissed) how the council was dead set on building a stadium in the north of the city. They were so determined they wanted a stadium that the question of who was going to play in it seemed to be an afterthought.

I agree that the club would have fared better if it had stayed at Highfield Road.

It was actually Richardson who started it saying we would find another site for our ground. He obviously thought that there was money in brokering the deal

ajsccfc · Sep 25, 2016

I remember when they planned the sliding pitch, Vitesse Arnhem's new ground was the inspiration. Was a retractable roof planned too, anyone remember?

martcov · Sep 25, 2016

ajsccfc said:
I remember when they planned the sliding pitch, Vitesse Arnhem's new ground was the inspiration. Was a retractable roof planned too, anyone remember?

Yes. That was the example.

Frankley · Sep 25, 2016

Captain Dart said:
So you are screaming about something that never happened because you think it was unfair to CCFC who you clearly feel should have got preferential treatment and been given the stadium. That as SISU have said in Court is contrary to EU rules. Regeneration was what the site was all about, if the council could have got a grant to build an exhibition centre or marina or space station or whatever they'd have gone for it. The club was lined up then it turned out they had no money and the burden to complete the job fell upon the local tax payer and it was effectively farmed out to CCFC by charging an unmanageable rent. When the National Stadium thing came up it was all about the Council trying to get themselves out of a financial hole, they failed because the search for a new venue was just a political sop to appease the Labour heartlands, after which the politicians could say we really looked but it was clear Wembley was best. CCFC should have been far more circumspect, if Richardson had built a 20K expansible stadium and found another investor to build a hotel & exhibition space in another phase a few years down the line I think the move could have gone well. We were fucked by his grandiose visions but the kernel of that vision was OK.

First, I wasn't screaming about anything.

Second, you're wrong as I actually don't think the club should have moved from HR.

Third, what financial black hole. The national stadium bid came up and had gone before the council financially committed to the stadium.

Fourth, I disagree that the idea of a new stadium on the gasworks site was a good one.

Fifth, once the prospect of full stadium ownership had gone the club should have walked away and let the council get on with developing the site with whatever it could come up with.

Brylowes · Sep 25, 2016

Grendel said:
I'm a great agent - look at me - it was puerile self interested promotion.

Oh urm, well, ok cheers.

Brylowes · Sep 25, 2016

Nick said:
You do realise you can disagree with somebody about one thing and then agree with them about others don't you?

It's almost as if you want people to be at each other's necks, as a large percentage of your posts on here are in this thread.

It's very weird, you are talking as if nothing else gets discussed on here.

Moaning about not sticking together, but this thread is about the only one where people aren't bickering.

Nick said:
Very strange isn't it, almost as if it pains somebody to see people half getting on with each other.

Yeah Nick, this thread does resemble the Christmas Day footy match
At the Somme, I'm willing to keep playing nicely, as long as we all get
Back too hating each other tomorrow.

shmmeee · Sep 25, 2016

ajsccfc said:
I remember when they planned the sliding pitch, Vitesse Arnhem's new ground was the inspiration. Was a retractable roof planned too, anyone remember?

Yep, it was gold too IIRC.

dongonzalos · Sep 25, 2016

Haskell, Hoffman, Joe

If it was these again, what is the big issue? Haskell did put his money where his mouth was. Informs rely SISU did not want to sell and were pre pared to pay more than Haskell for their own debt.
So he was far from the fraud some potray him to be. He just knew the true value of the club.
Hoffman has ran global banks at the highest level so is no idiot.
Elliot I can't really comment on but I would suggest that as a fan like Hoffman his decisions even if they get it wrong will have the best interests of the club at the centre of the decision.

Brylowes · Sep 25, 2016

shmmeee said:
Yep, it was gold too IIRC.

ajsccfc said:
I remember when they planned the sliding pitch, Vitesse Arnhem's new ground was the inspiration. Was a retractable roof planned too, anyone remember?

Yep, 45.000, retractable roof, sliding pitch and it was going too be clad with Teracotta tiles.
What a sight to behold, shimmering in the evening summer haze, from the M6

Deleted member 5849 · Sep 25, 2016

dongonzalos said:
Haskell, Hoffman, Joe

If it was these again, what is the big issue? Haskell did put his money where his mouth was. Informs rely SISU did not want to sell and were pre pared to pay more than Haskell for their own debt.
So he was far from the fraud some potray him to be. He just knew the true value of the club.
Hoffman has ran global banks at the highest level so is no idiot.
Elliot I can't really comment on but I would suggest that as a fan like Hoffman his decisions even if they get it wrong will have the best interests of the club at the centre of the decision.

Haskell didn't have the cash. ACL's preferred administrator said that.

Hoffman's main worry is he leapt in with SISU, and later claimed not to know what they were about. Now while I appreciate they are a different area of finance, a small amount of checking would have told him - doesn't reflect well on his due diligence or judgement, nor does associating with Ranson, who exploited clubs other than us. He does at least get some credit for quitting.

Elliot? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha .

Unless you mean the Def Leppard singer, in which case bring it on.

peeler · Sep 25, 2016

Brylowes said:
Yep, 45.000, retractable roof, sliding pitch and it was going too be clad with Teracotta tiles.
What a sight to behold, shimmering in the evening summer haze, from the M6

This stadium was going to have capacity for 15,000 fans complete with curtains, wallpaper & pastel emulsion paints as decided by Sandra Garlick & co.

Also shimmering in the evening haze, somewhere within the Coventry area

Deity · Sep 25, 2016

A Hoffman brokered deal still remains our best hope ...

fernandopartridge · Sep 25, 2016

Deity said:
A Hoffman brokered deal still remains our best hope ...

No thanks. That c**t was part of the SISU deal. People like him and suntan Joe need to be banished to history

Hobo · Sep 25, 2016

peeler said:
This stadium was going to have capacity for 15,000 fans complete with curtains, wallpaper & pastel emulsion paints as decided by Sandra Garlick & co.

Also shimmering in the evening haze, somewhere within the Coventry area

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Ah yes....the toilet seat

Deleted member 5849 · Sep 25, 2016

fernandopartridge said:
No thanks. That c**t was part of the SISU deal. People like him and suntan Joe need to be banished to history

If we had a completely fresh start it'd be the first time since, what, 1993?

matesx · Sep 25, 2016

Wonder whatever became of Sandra Garlick?

ffs

ecky · Sep 25, 2016

peeler said:
This stadium was going to have capacity for 15,000 fans complete with curtains, wallpaper & pastel emulsion paints as decided by Sandra Garlick & co.

Also shimmering in the evening haze, somewhere within the Coventry area

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Oh yeh the wonderful Sandra Garlic the curtain colour chooser!
So many failed promises under Sisu how they have any credibility left is beyond me

ecky · Sep 25, 2016

matesx said:
Wonder whatever became of Sandra Garlick?

ffs

You beat me to it?

letsallsingtogether · Sep 25, 2016

matesx said:
Wonder whatever became of Sandra Garlick?

ffs

Still there like a piece of stale bread.

Nick · Sep 25, 2016

letsallsingtogether said:
Still there like a piece of stale bread.

Garlick, bread???

letsallsingtogether · Sep 25, 2016

Nick said:
Garlick, bread???

That's the one....

Hobo · Sep 25, 2016

ecky said:
Oh yeh the wonderful Sandra Garlic the curtain colour chooser!
So many failed promises under Sisu how they have any credibility left is beyond me

They haven't.

Skyblueweeman · Sep 25, 2016

Deleted member 5849 said:
Elliot? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha .

Unless you mean the Def Leppard singer, in which case bring it on.

Weirdly, I was driving up to Manchester today and Def Leppard came on through the shuffle function on my phone. Love Bites live.

Still amazed at the one armed drummer...tekkers.

dongonzalos · Sep 25, 2016

Deleted member 5849 said:
Haskell didn't have the cash. ACL's preferred administrator said that.

Hoffman's main worry is he leapt in with SISU, and later claimed not to know what they were about. Now while I appreciate they are a different area of finance, a small amount of checking would have told him - doesn't reflect well on his due diligence or judgement, nor does associating with Ranson, who exploited clubs other than us. He does at least get some credit for quitting.

Elliot? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha .

Unless you mean the Def Leppard singer, in which case bring it on.

Did smug face actually say Haskell didn't have the money or was it he wasn't prepared to match SISU?

The Hoff, yes I think he agreed with Ransons plan

Joe I can't really comment other than he is a Cov fan

Brylowes · Sep 25, 2016

Deleted member 5849 said:
Haskell didn't have the cash. ACL's preferred administrator said that.

Hoffman's main worry is he leapt in with SISU, and later claimed not to know what they were about. Now while I appreciate they are a different area of finance, a small amount of checking would have told him - doesn't reflect well on his due diligence or judgement, nor does associating with Ranson, who exploited clubs other than us. He does at least get some credit for quitting.

Elliot? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha .

Unless you mean the Def Leppard singer, in which case bring it on.

My memory maybe letting me down, but the administration process was extremely foggy,
Appleton himself didn't know what was where.
SISU were the only one who could safely bid and actually know what they were bidding
For, the way I understood it at the time (I maybe wrong) Haskel could have outbid SISU
And been presented with a company resembling an empty broom cupboard.

Brylowes · Sep 25, 2016

Nick said:
Garlick, bread???

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