And if they had still fed ACL the council would have done nothing to try and change them. They would have been "good" owners.
On the other hand if they were top of a league with a good policy on recruitment but stopped paying the over blown rent the council would want them out to bring in a "good" owner - one like sisu when they paid the bills.
Well that's an interesting theory. It is worth remembering however that the first significant "sisu out" protests from the fans was a good 6 months before the rent strike started. Are you saying that John Mutton at this point wasn't chanting "sisu out" along with the rest of the fans?
They stopped stuffing ACL with money
They have stopped giving money to Acl so what's the problem ???
Sisu have moved on maybe you haven't ??
Any chance you can justify on Sisu's behalf the 70 million debt that CCFC is in ??
If the council saw an opportunity to oust sisu, bring in new owners, and unite the club and stadium ownership together, then shouldn't we be grateful to them for trying to do that?
Here's the thing. SISU should have done due diligence we all agree that and it's mentioned on here daily. However, people tend to forget that SISU were the Council's preferred bidder, so all sides fucked up.
Before Grendel jumped in with his trolling, the point made was a valid one. The majority will see nothing wrong if what Sisu claim is true as the majority want Sisu out. This might not be the PR coup they think, I think it really is beyond repair for them in terms of PR.
Before you waffle again G, remember that this is about what the majority feel/think, not what is right or wrong in your opinion.
Everything relates to performance on the pitch. Fans wouldn't care if the debt was £300 million if they were top of the league.
Everything relates to performance on the pitch. Fans wouldn't care if the debt was £300 million if they were top of the league.
Trolling? Hilarious given your antics on here of late.
The actual point was should the council be involved in who is a fit and proper owner of a football club. Given its own failings and incompetence on management selection in areas far more important that football that's a no from me and I suspect the majority of fans.
I would suggest you do a poll and ask what people want first
A return to Coventry
OR
New owners selected by the council.
I think you'd be disappointed with the answer.
Everything relates to performance on the pitch. Fans wouldn't care if the debt was £300 million if they were top of the league.
No, it won't determine whether the council acted in a conspiracy against SISU, it'll determine whether their loan to ACL followed the rules or not.
That is your opinion rather than mine.
Here's the thing. SISU should have done due diligence we all agree that and it's mentioned on here daily. However, people tend to forget that SISU were the Council's preferred bidder, so all sides fucked up.
Here's the thing. SISU should have done due diligence we all agree that and it's mentioned on here daily. However, people tend to forget that SISU were the Council's preferred bidder, so all sides fucked up.
And like lots of fans, including me we thought why not give them a go. Despite some concerns, I hoped they would bring some financial sanity to the club and get things back on track. Unfortunately the concerns I had were justified.
We won't move forward until they are gone. Even then I think it is a long way back from where they have took us.
So you support a strategy of keeping in a budget even if that means selling key performing players?
So you support a strategy of keeping in a budget even if that means selling key performing players?
So you support a strategy of keeping in a budget even if that means selling key performing players?
All sides fucked up I agree. But what difference did it make if CCC did prefer that SISU took over? Just the same amount of difference it makes that they don't want them at the club now. Just about the same difference it makes that nobody wants them at the club now including SISU. They are still with us as they need to get money back. They need to save face.
The biggest fuck up CCC ever did was to get the Ricoh built. It was done with a debt on the arena. The tax payer was never going to pay for it. Our football club was going to have to pay for it. But our club was already in the shit. Average players at best on big wages saw to this. Relegation out of the Prem made a bad situation a nightmare scenario. But if they never got the arena built our club could have been finished as we know it. Many millions in debt and nowhere to play as HR had been sold by then.
Its a very fine balance. The problem you have is we can't operate in a bubble. If other clubs are overspending and we are working to break even how do we ever field a competitive team? We possibly could in L1 if we were back at the Ricoh as we'd have bigger crowds than most other teams but if and when back in the championship what do you do? I doubt the majority of the fanbase are going to be happy with hovering around mid table for years, they will want to push for a PL spot. How do you achieve that without overspending when everyone else is?
There's also a question these days of how far can you get. Look at Southampton, they've had a lot of money pumped in by an owner who has stated their aim is regular champions league football but look what's happening now. One good season and their squad is being torn apart as bigger clubs come in and pick off who they want. How likely are they to be able to perform as well next season with the players that stay?
Trolling? Hilarious given your antics on here of late.
The actual point was should the council be involved in who is a fit and proper owner of a football club. Given its own failings and incompetence on management selection in areas far more important that football that's a no from me and I suspect the majority of fans.
I would suggest you do a poll and ask what people want first
A return to Coventry
OR
New owners selected by the council.
I think you'd be disappointed with the answer.
Similar to my thoughts.
Whilst the council might yet be found guilty of breaking state aid rules, surely we should congratulate their motives?
We all agree that sisu are unsuitable owners of the club. No fans like sisu apparently.
If the council saw an opportunity to oust sisu, bring in new owners, and unite the club and stadium ownership together, then shouldn't we be grateful to them for trying to do that?
Agreed.
My thoughts also.
Buster, Ron, exactly. Hit the nail on the head.
You think they'd select new owners? That would disappoint me. I thought most wanted us back in Cov (apart from the odd one that ones us in Nuneaton).
No. The discussion was about PR and whether the JR will turn the tide. The point made was that it seems that for most Sisu are seen as so bad that a conspiracy to kick them out (if that is what occurred) isn't that bad a crime.
You, as always, ignored that and went off on one of your pet topics, again. And that's trolling.
Maybe the council should have done some due diligence and found out what kind of company they were dealing with? What do you reckon?
So you support a strategy of keeping in a budget even if that means selling key performing players?
RoboCCFC90, me and a couple of others are having a drink at the City Arms Fri 13 June to shoot the breeze while watching Sp v NL. If RoboCCFC90 doesn't mind, anyone else would be welcome too??
Trolling? Hilarious given your antics on here of late.
The actual point was should the council be involved in who is a fit and proper owner of a football club. Given its own failings and incompetence on management selection in areas far more important that football that's a no from me and I suspect the majority of fans.
I would suggest you do a poll and ask what people want first
A return to Coventry
OR
New owners selected by the council.
I think you'd be disappointed with the answer.
If you ask the supporters it would be a return to the Ricoh, but if you asked the people it might be a different answer and as the council are answerable to the people they have to support the people.
The people wouldn't care less either way. Do you seriously think the average Coventry citizen has any interest in what happens?
The people wouldn't care less either way. Do you seriously think the average Coventry citizen has any interest in what happens?
The majority voting was for Anne Lucas not Rob S....and even across other wards nothing really changed. All councillors across the parties seem to stand together on this one.
Nikki Sinclair made a few noises then lost interest, seems like the voters have lost interest in her.
Lol !!!
It makes me laugh how all your posts assume that you know what everyone else is thinking !!!
Hold on - to suggest the election was purely about the ricoh is absurd.
However if you are then you've defeated yourself as the majority didn't vote (I.e don't care)
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?