fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
Yeah, fair point
Some fans. Not “the fans”. Other than that bang on.
There seems to be a clear divide to me - the people who are down are primarily looking at what is served up on the pitch by our own team. Now there are further sub-divides between those who feel it's tactics and those blaming individual players but the commonality is that there appears to be no escaping this collapse we find ourselves on with the finish line in sight unless Robins does something fundamentally different (which he hasn't all season).I see why people are frustrated, I am too. Even with injuries, we should be doing better against the sides lower down the division. But, some Newport County poster did warn us that this was the nature of the league. The proof is in the pudding, not many teams bounce straight back up and I think we've got the right ingredients - especially with a few more additions - to get promoted next year, if not this year.
The promising thing for us, is that most of our key players are under contract, so there's no need to cash in. Interest in Jones would've cooled because he'll be coming back from a nasty injury. The only worry is Bayliss not signing a contract, but at least he won't go for absolutely nothing.
I understand the urgency for us to get out of this league, but if you look at the bigger picture, there's cause for optimism.
There seems to be a clear divide to me - the people who are down are primarily looking at what is served up on the pitch by our own team. Now there are further sub-divides between those who feel it's tactics and those blaming individual players but the commonality is that there appears to be no escaping this collapse we find ourselves on with the finish line in sight unless Robins does something fundamentally different (which he hasn't all season).
On the other side of it, the optimists are ignoring what is happening on the pitch and pointing at external things as reasons to stay positive - we're only 3 points of the playoffs, no-one gets out of this division first time, anyone can beat anyone in this league, our core squad is under contract for next year, we've had injuries, sacking the manager every 18 month gets us nowhere.
It's always going to be fractious when people are basing their beliefs on two completely separate sets of information.
Is the bigger picture really so optimistic though? How many STs do you think we'll sell next year if this really is another post christmas implosion? 4k? I don't think it's unrealistic to expect a 2nd season in this league to reduce our attendances to closer to 5k than 7k especially set against the backdrop of the same match day pricing model being used and another season of fan uncertainty driven by just a 1 year Ricoh extension. Do you think we'll be able to afford to keep Jones, McNulty, Andreu, Willis etc on those gates? Will they want to stay? Are we really reliant on Wilson or Maddison being sold to be competitive next year? All genuine questions, I'm not informed enough about those things to know but there just seems to me to be a lot of dependencies before we can get too optimistic for next year already.
Please tell me about this bigger picture?[/QUOTE]I understand the urgency for us to get out of this league, but if you look at the bigger picture, there's cause for optimism.
You not concerned we might lose our best players?no as this squad on longer term contracts so we should challenge next year if we dont go up this season
jones and andreu back will be huge
that said he needs to improve and learn
Yep. We have 50 points. Would say 83-84 points minimum for the automatic places. More than likely more than that.14 games?
so like 11-12 wins for autos?
9 or 10 to make playoffs?
not looking good
Totally agree.On a positive note if we make the playoffs we're likely to do it as the team in form which could help. I can't see us finishing in the top 10 if things don't drastically improve though.
I can take losing, I can't take gutless performances with no structure to our play and no tactical awareness to change things that aren't working.
Think if we lost 6 or 7 in a row it's a possibility.Love this ridiculous poll....
Sack him now?
No not yet.... Like its imminently inevitable.
no as this squad on longer term contracts so we should challenge next year if we dont go up this season
jones and andreu back will be huge
that said he needs to improve and learn
Did your missus make these, Otis?Yep and get in Sammy Lee from Everton as his assistant, merely for the simple fact that my missus is very old fashioned and we have loads of these around the house.
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I hate them, but she would be very happy to have another Doyle Lee about.
Please tell me about this bigger picture?
Players mentally weak?Still?
Then we should have a full time phsychologist.
Where has he been a good manager never lasted much more than 2 years anywhere
It did feel listening in that the second half showing was the best for eons (goal conceded apart),where we built sustained pressure.Think that was a knee jerk frustrated comment straight after the game. Suspect he wishes he hadn't said it. Do think (particularly on good playing surfaces) he can demand more of the passing game of players. Hope someone gets the opportunity to ask about the hoof towards the touchline from every kick off (doesn't suggest 'pass the ball' style. Seems a small issue, but symptomatic of what Kelly keeps being accused of by some on here (and doesn't help dispel the idea). I want to see how the team performs in March (the next 3 are going to be difficult). Do hope we attack the league games from the off, though (none of this 'getting a foothold' rubbish that's so palpably failed. I'd still keep him (but hope he learns lessons).
It's definitely a top 7 budget, probably a top 3. Budget will likely be cut next year so this is our best chance.
You not concerned we might lose our best players?
Great if we can hang to them, but I would be expecting Bayliss, McNulty and Willis to be snapped up by a bigger team.
Someone might take a risk on Jones too. Robins said there had been interest in one of our injured players in the January window.
I am not all convinced that we can build on what we already have and believe it may more likely be a rebuild required.
Every year we rebuild again with lesser players.I fear losing none of them...
McNulty is very likely to stay if Robins does.
Willis if a offer comes great- he's gonna be entering the last 12 months of his deal and can walk for free in 12 months. I'd rather the fee.
Bayliss it's in the kids hands what he does.
JJ I'm hugely doubtful he's gonna leave in the summer. Still fitness to prove or reactions in his recovery.
Plays may leave. That's football, but the summer is there to rebuild again like all clubs
Exactly this, bravo.No. His record is better than any manager we've had for many years.
Do Cov fans ever learn? The same knee jerk "let's sack him" shite every time. All based on this idea that we're rich in resource!? He's missing a number of players you'd expect to see in the side. Give the bloke a break and grow up.
Hmmm 11 wins, that seems like a tall order given our inconstancy .Yep. We have 50 points. Would say 83-84 points minimum for the automatic places. More than likely more than that.
Like you say. 11 wins out of 14 games.
No. Her mum does though.Did your missus make these, Otis?
Piece of cake, mate!Hmmm 11 wins, that seems like a tall order given our inconstancy .
Piece of cake, mate!
11 out of 14 is small potatoes.
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