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Match Thread Sheffield Wednesday - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 20th Jan (14 Viewers)

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2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,191
Flying Fokker said:
That’s a shame. Unless it was they who did the abusing of course.
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I assume you haven’t seen this?

 

MalcSB

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,192
Flying Fokker said:

Positive action

Horrified and depressed by events at yesterday’s game - not to mention some of the ‘debate’ (there isn’t one to be had) afterwards - I want to take a proactive role in helping our club cleanse itself of racist and homophobic abuse from the stands. I know lots of others feel the same way. In that ...
www.owlstalk.co.uk
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There’s a post on there commenting on the lack of diversity in their supporters at the ground. This is very different to our fan base - one of the things I like is how the Sky Blues have a truly multi- cultural following.
 
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Cheylesmore ITK

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,193
MalcSB said:
There’s a post on there commenting on the lack of diversity in their supporters at the ground. This is very different to our fan base - one of the things I like is how the Sky Blues have a truly multi- cultural following.
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Sheffield is a great and multicultural city but their support was very white yesterday.
 

HadjiChippo

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,194
Cheylesmore ITK said:
Sheffield is a great and multicultural city but their support was very white yesterday.
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80% of Sheffield pop in the last census is white, so that’s very much going to be the case.

As opposed to Coventry that is far more diverse at 65% white population.

Not that any of this matters, but it shouldn’t come as a shock.
 

Darth Robins

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,195


Whoopsie!
 
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Cheylesmore ITK

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,196
HadjiChippo said:
80% of Sheffield pop in the last census is white, so that’s very much going to be the case.

As opposed to Coventry that is far more diverse at 65% white population.

Not that any of this matters, but it shouldn’t come as a shock.
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Is it that low - seems higher

I guess it's a case of it being multicultural in some areas and almost exclusively white in others.

In places like Foleshill you still have white (mostly irish and eastern european) populations.

Anyway, fuck the racist twats.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,197
MalcSB said:
There’s a post on there commenting on the lack of diversity in their supporters at the ground. This is very different to our fan base - one of the things I like is how the Sky Blues have a truly multi- cultural following.
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Do we? Not so sure.
 
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Cheylesmore ITK

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,198
clint van damme said:
Do we? Not so sure.
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I see a lot, lot more black and Asian fans at the CBS than I saw supporting Wednesday yesterday.

As someone has pointed out we area more multicultural city than Sheffield.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,199
Anyway, talking of trains…A trip down memory lane.

Reading between the lines, I’d say we were well and truly shafted.

Coventry City: Chairman Tim Fisher says club 'will die' if they do not leave Ricoh Arena

Coventry City chairman Tim Fisher says the club must leave the Ricoh Arena if they are to survive.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,200
clint van damme said:
Do we? Not so sure.
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I'm comparison to the city of Coventry, no, but our fanbase is more diverse than most. I'd say that's true of most West Mids and some of the London clubs.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,201
I like the ideas from Wednesday fans about the clubs coming together.

Singing songs that suggest all Wednesday fans are racist isn't right, especially when we've had similar incidents from our fans.

Both sets coming together to leave rivalries aside for a few minutes would be positive and sends our a powerful message.
 
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Cheylesmore ITK

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,202
pusbccfc said:
I like the ideas from Wednesday fans about the clubs coming together.

Singing songs that suggest all Wednesday fans are racist isn't right, especially when we've had similar incidents from our fans.

Both sets coming together to leave rivalries aside for a few minutes would be positive and sends our a powerful message.
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No, I am sorry but I don't agree.

When have we monkey chanted opposition players?
 
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2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,203
Cheylesmore ITK said:
No, I am sorry but I don't agree.

When have we monkey chanted opposition players?
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was just about to ask the same….

@pusbccfc if you’re on about the banner then yes, it’s not a very nice situation but as far as I heard there was nothing else at the match, no whole stand chanting, no references to it, no players targeted etc…

wouldn’t compare the two here, although both disgusting
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,204
Cheylesmore ITK said:
No, I am sorry but I don't agree.

When have we monkey chanted opposition players?
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That's not what the conversations about. It's about how diverse the support is.
You could have a support that's 100% white and not be racist.
I think pusbccfc post is pretty accurate though.
 
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Cheylesmore ITK

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,205
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
was just about to ask the same….

if you’re on about the banner then yes, it’s not a very nice situation but as far as I heard there was nothing else at the match, no whole stand chanting, no references to it, no players targeted etc…

wouldn’t compare the two here, although both disgusting
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I am trying to think of when we have been accused of racism. There was that accusation that turned out to be a misunderstanding against a Fulham fan but can't think of anything else.

We have fans who will be racist like I can't recall anything like this.
 

mark82

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,206
Cheylesmore ITK said:
Sheffield is a great and multicultural city but their support was very white yesterday.
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It was quite a shock when I moved up here how white it was compared with Coventry. My workplace was 99% white.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,207
Cheylesmore ITK said:
No, I am sorry but I don't agree.

When have we monkey chanted opposition players?
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Wasn't a fan arrested in the Stoke game last year for racially abusing one of their players?

I've heard comments before. I know people who have had comments thrown at them too.

I'd like our fans to take an anti-racist approach rather than fully targeting the Wednesday fan base.
 
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Cheylesmore ITK

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,208
clint van damme said:
That's not what the conversations about. It's about how diverse the support is.
You could have a support that's 100% white and not be racist.
I think pusbccfc post is pretty accurate though.
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Is it?

I am referencing this part Clint "Singing songs that suggest all Wednesday fans are racist isn't right, especially when we've had similar incidents from our fans."

That is not about how diverse our fans, it is saying we have had similar incidents to yesterday and I am asking when they were as I don't recall them.
 

2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,209
my comments were meant to be in response to @pusbccfc regarding comparing the two incidents, and in response to @clint van damme the post specifically said “ Singing songs that suggest all Wednesday fans are racist isn't right, especially when we've had similar incidents from our fans”

so quite rightly the question back was when? I can’t recall similar incidents, over the course of thirty-ish years following the club
 

clint van damme

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,210
Cheylesmore ITK said:
Is it?

I am referencing this part Clint "Singing songs that suggest all Wednesday fans are racist isn't right, especially when we've had similar incidents from our fans."

That is not about how diverse our fans, it is saying we have had similar incidents to yesterday and I am asking when they were as I don't recall them.
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My initial response was to malcsb saying we have a 'truly multicultural fanbase'.
I responded I'm not so sure we do.
That doesn't mean Im implying we have a racism problem in the fanbase
 

2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,211
clint van damme said:
My initial response was to malcsb saying we have a 'truly multicultural fanbase'.
I responded I'm not so sure we do.
That doesn't mean Im implying we have a racism problem in the fanbase
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the question wasn’t to you….
 
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Cheylesmore ITK

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,212
pusbccfc said:
Wasn't a fan arrested in the Stoke game last year for racially abusing one of their players?

I've heard comments before. I know people who have had comments thrown at them too.

I'd like our fans to take an anti-racist approach rather than fully targeting the Wednesday fan base.
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That wasn't the same, that was one fan who was arrested and kicked out.

Yesterday was a number of people racially abusing a player over an extended moment of time which led to what seems like multiple monkey chants.

Yes while we have racist fans to say we have had an incident like yesterday is pretty disingenuous.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,213
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
the question wasn’t to you….
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My response wasn't to you! Is this a log in mix up?!
 
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Cheylesmore ITK

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,214
clint van damme said:
My initial response was to malcsb saying we have a 'truly multicultural fanbase'.
I responded I'm not so sure we do.
That doesn't mean Im implying we have a racism problem in the fanbase
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You quoted me in your post so I assumed you were talking to me
 

clint van damme

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,215
Cheylesmore ITK said:
You quoted me in your post so I assumed you were talking to me
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I was!
 
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Cheylesmore ITK

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,216
I'll put this to bed now

We have fans who are racist and who will say racist things (I mean just look at some of the posts on other threads here) but to say we have racially targeted a player over an extended period and in numbers just isn't true.
 
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Cheylesmore ITK

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,217
clint van damme said:
I was!
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Then your post made no sense, sorry about that.

I repeat I was just asking someone to provide an example of what they had stated. Which is perfectly valid no matter what the original conversation was about.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,218
Cheylesmore ITK said:
Then your post made no sense, sorry about that.

I repeat I was just asking someone to provide an example of what they had stated. Which is perfectly valid no matter what the original conversation was about.
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Re-read from malcsb post, 1223, on the previous page.
If you still can't grasp whats going on then I'll leave you to it.
 
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Cheylesmore ITK

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,219
clint van damme said:
Re-read from malcsb post, 123, on the previous page.
If you still can't grasp whats going on then I'll leave you to it.
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yes I know, but I was simply asking for an example something a poster had stated.

That is perfectly valid, if you can't grasp that then then I do feel for you.
 
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2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,220
@clint van damme, both me and @Cheylesmore ITK made the same point and both to another poster, NOT YOU!

we both said that we disagree with @pusbccfc saying we have had similar incidents, and Cheylesmore asked for examples.

It doesn’t require reading back through reams of posts, it’s fairly simple, and you seem to have not grasped what’s going on rather than anybody else…

I’ll simplify it - what are these incidents we have been involved in that are similar to the incident yesterday?
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,221
RegTheDonk said:
Only listened to the game as was trying to fix a leak at my lads house but sounds like Kasey was having a good game. We all have shouted at players at some point, particularly the opposition when they are on top, but no excuse for them to react in this way. Seeing it on the news brings some hope that it's been highlighted so much it will be taken seriously. Would hope Kasey plays on Friday and the whole place give him some support but the shame is while the twat in question will probably be banned or prosecuted, it won't change or educate his mates or likeminded people.

Sour end to what sounded a great performance, with Sheaf leading the way. On that note,, anyone else having this issue when trying to watch the game back on iFollow?

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I put some instructions further back in the thread
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Go to the icon in the bottom right corner right click and go to Avast shield control select disable for 10 minutes and try connecting to the site. If you get it working go the same route and put shields back on
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,222
Have seen a clip that shows him doing it (the fan). Shouldn't be too hard for Sheffield weds to identify him and sort it.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,223
Cheylesmore ITK said:
yes I know, but I was simply asking for an example something a poster had stated.

That is perfectly valid, if you can't grasp that then then I do feel for you.
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Then you shouldn't have been responding to me as I made no accusations of anything.
Crack on anyway.
 
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Cheylesmore ITK

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,224
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
@clint van damme, both me and @Cheylesmore ITK made the same point and both to another poster, NOT YOU!

we both said that we disagree with @pusbccfc saying we have had similar incidents, and Cheylesmore asked for examples.

It doesn’t require reading back through reams of posts, it’s fairly simple, and you seem to have not grasped what’s going on rather than anybody else…

I’ll simplify it - what are these incidents we have been involved in that are similar to the incident yesterday?
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Yeah, I understand we were talking about the diversity of the city fanbase as I was one of the first to start talking bout this but I simply asked another poster to clarify a point he had made.

Anyway, I'll leave it there so this doesn't go down a wormhole.
 
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Cheylesmore ITK

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #1,225
clint van damme said:
Then you shouldn't have been responding to me as I made no accusations of anything.
Crack on anyway.
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You replied to me first though Clint? I'll remember not to reply to you in future then if this is the nonsense I am going to get.



 
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