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  • Start date Feb 17, 2021
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cc84cov

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  • Feb 28, 2021
  • #211
Magwitch1 said:
Don’t understand this negativity towards Sheaf he’s okay and played a lot of games in a team being constantly altered for injuries. Let’s see how he fares playing with a full squad.
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He won’t get a game as we are seeing now he’s 4th choice you plonker let’s not forget dabo CDM to come soon too
 

ccfc1234

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  • Feb 28, 2021
  • #212
Frostie said:
I don't understand this conspiracy theory, there's literally zero logic to it. He's made 7th most appearances of anyone in the squad & if there was a concern about hitting an appearance milestone why would you bring him on for 11mins v Reading when the game's already over & you have Jamie Allen as an unused sub?
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How many matches ago was the reading game? He could have made his mind up in that time? It does seem odd but I am not close enough to the training or the deal to know if it presents as good value.
 

Frostie

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  • Feb 28, 2021
  • #213
ccfc1234 said:
How many matches ago was the reading game? He could have made his mind up in that time? It does seem odd but I am not close enough to the training or the deal to know if it presents as good value.
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Well, go more recently then, why give him 15mins v Brentford or 25mins v Swansea when you have Shipley & Allen both unused?
It's a bizarre conspiracy theory that makes absolutely no sense but then looking at who dreamed it up in this thread that's not really a surprise.
 
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cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 28, 2021
  • #214
Frostie said:
Well, go more recently then, why give him 15mins v Brentford or 25mins v Swansea when you have Shipley & Allen both unused?
It's a bizarre conspiracy theory that makes absolutely no sense but then looking at who dreamed it up in this thread that's not really a surprise.
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Let’s see if we end up signing him
 
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Skybluebeliever

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  • Feb 28, 2021
  • #215
Evo1883 said:
It's becoming increasingly clear that we have a appearance based obligation on sheaf... I also have a feeling that Robins is unwilling to play him as if we go down there's a decent sized fee to pay... If the unexpected happened and we are safe with 3 or 4 games left... You will see what Robins intentions truly are with sheaf

As it stands, it feels like he won't sign him
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If we get relegated we have no obligation to sign him
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 1, 2021
  • #216
cc84cov said:
@Barnsley just said he would walk into their side

Bottom line he’s better than sheaf and offers more sheaf would struggle to make their bench facts are robins clearly thinks James offers more as he’s ahead of sheaf
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Are their results better or worse since he left?
 

ccfc1234

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  • Mar 1, 2021
  • #217
Frostie said:
Well, go more recently then, why give him 15mins v Brentford or 25mins v Swansea when you have Shipley & Allen both unused?
It's a bizarre conspiracy theory that makes absolutely no sense but then looking at who dreamed it up in this thread that's not really a surprise.
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Time will tell i guess but i tend to agree with your reasoned logic, he is staying.
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 6, 2021
  • #218
Allen on over sheaf

The writing is on the wall for sheaf
 

stupot07

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  • Mar 6, 2021
  • #219
cc84cov said:
Allen on over sheaf

The writing is on the wall for sheaf
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We're fucked then if we have an obligation to sign him at the end of the season. Robins was asked if it was an option, he said no its an obligation.

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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 6, 2021
  • #220
cc84cov said:
Allen on over sheaf

The writing is on the wall for sheaf
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You do realise they play different positions?
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Mar 6, 2021
  • #221
cc84cov said:
Allen on over sheaf

The writing is on the wall for sheaf
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I actually (and I never thought I’d say this) think you’re right. Shake because he’s a really talented player.
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 6, 2021
  • #222
Liquid Gold said:
I actually (and I never thought I’d say this) think you’re right. Shake because he’s a really talented player.
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On comes sheaf
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Mar 6, 2021
  • #223
cc84cov said:
On comes sheaf
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Typical
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 6, 2021
  • #224
Liquid Gold said:
Typical
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Well he was waiting to come on
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Mar 6, 2021
  • #225
cc84cov said:
Well he was waiting to come on
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And now he is
 

Nick

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  • Mar 6, 2021
  • #226
cc84cov said:
Allen on over sheaf

The writing is on the wall for sheaf
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Sheaf on over walker.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Mar 6, 2021
  • #227
Liquid Gold said:
And now he is
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He’s officially on lol let’s just see this game out now
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 6, 2021
  • #228
Oops!
 
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Gregbant

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  • Mar 6, 2021
  • #229
I wasn't aware that Sheaf can play CB
 
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cov donkey kick

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #230
Sheaf started the season and found hi. Self in shadow of hamer who made an immediate impact on the team and Sheaf has been trying to catch up ever since, personally I've not been that impressed with him, but what do I know. He's slipped further behind Kelly and James in Robins thinking. So will he stay or go over to Robins.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #231
cov donkey kick said:
Sheaf started the season and found hi. Self in shadow of hamer who made an immediate impact on the team and Sheaf has been trying to catch up ever since, personally I've not been that impressed with him, but what do I know. He's slipped further behind Kelly and James in Robins thinking. So will he stay or go over to Robins.
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The suggestion is he has to stay as he’s signed a pre contract
 
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cov donkey kick

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #232
Grendel said:
The suggestion is he has to stay as he’s signed a pre contract
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It will be interesting to see if that pans out.
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #233
Grendel said:
The suggestion is he has to stay as he’s signed a pre contract
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Obligation if a % of games are reached was the word on here but I remember robins talking about if he’s happy & the clubs happy,I don’t think it’s set it stone but we only know what we’re told
 

no_loyalty

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #234
Grendel said:
The suggestion is he has to stay as he’s signed a pre contract
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I believe certain criteria has to be met, I guess it’s based on number of games he plays. His current contract at Arsenal finishes at the end of May, not sure if it triggers a one year extension.
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #235
no_loyalty said:
I believe certain criteria has to be met, I guess it’s based on number of games he plays. His current contract at Arsenal finishes at the end of May, not sure if it triggers a one year extension.
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I think a fee of £750k is there in pre contract if obligations are filled @better days might know more
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #236
Sign him up! Clearly a talented footballer, and is likely to get better.
Fits the bill for me.
 
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fatso

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #237
He's a decent squad player, nothing more.
I certainly wouldn't pay 750k for him. The fact that we went and got James to play instead of playing Sheaf speaks volumes.
But I'd keep him for cover if the fee is reasonable, if it isn't id send him back.

We need to be brutal when it comes to shaping the squad for next season, id move Shipley and Allen on as JJ will hopefully be available, and is a far better player.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #238
Terry_dactyl said:
Sign him up! Clearly a talented footballer, and is likely to get better.
Fits the bill for me.
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Id sign him - he’s a reasonable prospect
 
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cc84cov

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #239
Grendel said:
Id sign him - he’s a reasonable prospect
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You Wouldn’t sign James on a free but would sign sheaf for £750k ?
 
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Gregbant

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #240
So it’s not an option to buy, more an obligation and I think he’s an outstanding young talent and we’re in a position to sign him at the end of this season.

“But like I say, there’s certain criteria to be met but it’s a really exciting signing and another young player coming in from a category one academy and top Premier League club, but also someone who has been out on loan and played in League One and and League Two, and appeared for Arsenal as well in games over a long period of time.
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #241
Thankfully yesterday should put the conspiracy theories to bed.

Very good player who will only get better. £750k (if true) is a snip.
 
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better days

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #242
cc84cov said:
I think a fee of £750k is there in pre contract if obligations are filled @better days might know more
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Don't know the exact details but sometimes a deal is done as a loan with an obligation to buy if there is a problem with the medical or fitness doubts
There is a loan fee then the balance to be paid if the player stays fit and doesn't break down
It may specify a number of games but it's just speculation in this case and only the clubs and player will know
 
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SBAndy

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #243
better days said:
Don't know the exact details but sometimes a deal is done as a loan with an obligation to buy if there is a problem with the medical or fitness doubts
There is a loan fee then the balance to be paid if the player stays fit and doesn't break down
It may specify a number of games but it's just speculation in this case and only the clubs and player will know
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I’d imagine it was more to do with his wage expectations and Arsenal covering a portion of those as he still had a year remaining on his contract. At least, that’s what I’ve assumed.
 

better days

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #244
SBAndy said:
I’d imagine it was more to do with his wage expectations and Arsenal covering a portion of those as he still had a year remaining on his contract. At least, that’s what I’ve assumed.
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Could be that too - with clauses relating to which division we're in when the loan expires
Just guesses really based on Robins saying there is an obligation to buy
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 7, 2021
  • #245
cc84cov said:
You Wouldn’t sign James on a free but would sign sheaf for £750k ?
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James will cost more in wages and signing on fees and there is a risk he will spend more time on the treatment table
 
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