What is being forgotten is there' another guy at the party, Lee Carsley, seems quieter but often successful managers come in pairs and the second in command just as important. In years gone by there were famous ones such as Mercer/Allison, Clough/Taylor, Mee/Howe, Shankly/Paisley and dare i say Sillett/Curtis. As regards how many games do we give them, well how long is a piece of string. Do we wait until we lose a couple, what if we win one,lose one. Fisher has said and we know he always tells the truth he wants someone in place for the Stevenage game. That gives Shaw/Carsley 2 matches, what will be the tipping point ?