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Alan Dugdales Moustache · Jun 28, 2018

shmmeee said:
The price to income ratio has changed massively. Don’t pull that crap. Find me a house South of Birmingham for three times average income today!

If you think housing hasn’t got more expensive and been a massive lottery win for the older generation I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

Edit:
Here you go:

There are other factors nowadays that seem to be missed: mobile phone and internet connection charges are a monthly factor that we never used to have to worry about. It annoys me when people moan that they have no money but spend a fortune on phones and then have a takeaway 3 or 4 times a week. People want more instantly and then moan that they will never save for a deposit for a house , one with a long driveway for their land rover discovery they've bought on tap.

Grendel · Jun 28, 2018

shmmeee said:
The price to income ratio has changed massively. Don’t pull that crap. Find me a house South of Birmingham for three times average income today!

If you think housing hasn’t got more expensive and been a massive lottery win for the older generation I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

Edit:
Here you go:

How interesting- talking about interest can you add that to your pretty graph? It was 15% from memory in 1990 which meant a £30,000 mortgage attracted well over £300 in interest only payments. Can you factor that in?

What’s the answer then?

Grendel · Jun 28, 2018

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
There are other factors nowadays that seem to be missed: mobile phone and internet connection charges are a monthly factor that we never used to have to worry about. It annoys me when people moan that they have no money but spend a fortune on phones and then have a takeaway 3 or 4 times a week. People want more instantly and then moan that they will never save for a deposit for a house , one with a long driveway for their land rover discovery they've bought on tap.

This particular poster has said an internet connection is a basic need

pipkin73 · Jun 28, 2018

Grendel said:
This particular poster has said an internet connection is a basic need

When I brought my house it was 9% slowly went down to 5%. Was bloody hard but you paid it and whatever was left after all the other bills was yours. I used to get about 2 nights out a month if I was sensible but rounded all my bills off so at the end of the year I could have a well deserved holiday. But do agree, it's harder these days as wages are lower and less safety in jobs as a rule.

westcountry_skyblue · Jun 28, 2018

Got mine last week lots of travelling to home games but had a payrise so done it monthly!!

Sick Boy · Jun 28, 2018

westcountry_skyblue said:
Got mine last week lots of travelling to home games but had a payrise so done it monthly!!

Fair play to you! Whereabouts in the west country are you?

Sky Blue Harry H · Jun 29, 2018

Sick Boy said:
Fair play to you! Whereabouts in the west country are you?

Great Yarmouth

slyblue57 · Jun 29, 2018

Anybody who has renewed could you tell me if its showing up yet on the ccfc account.
I renewed back in April but when I log in still not showing as renewed just last years.,

Liquid Gold · Jun 29, 2018

slyblue57 said:
Anybody who has renewed could you tell me if its showing up yet on the ccfc account.
I renewed back in April but when I log in still not showing as renewed just last years.,

Nope, still showing 17/18 for me.

fernandopartridge · Jun 29, 2018

Grendel said:
This particular poster has said an internet connection is a basic need

It pretty much is these days, it's a utility.

Grendel · Jun 29, 2018

fernandopartridge said:
It pretty much is these days, it's a utility.

You will not die of thirst or hunger if you do not have it

wingy · Jun 29, 2018

Grendel said:
You will not die of thirst or hunger if you do not have it

Your kids may fall back at school and dealing with everyday transactions would be pretty much Impossible ,shops ,banks, inteligent energy aoplications etc ?

fernandopartridge · Jun 29, 2018

Grendel said:
You will not die of thirst or hunger if you do not have it

You could say the same about gas and electricity.

David O'Day · Jun 29, 2018

Grendal in chatting bubbles shocker, it's 2018 kid not 1865

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Jun 29, 2018

Grendel said:
This particular poster has said an internet connection is a basic need

Do you mean me ? Of course it is, particularly to the younger generation, those struggling to get on the property ladder. Do I need it ? Not particularly.

Grendel · Jun 29, 2018

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Do you mean me ? Of course it is, particularly to the younger generation, those struggling to get on the property ladder. Do I need it ? Not particularly.

No not you.

westcountry_skyblue · Jun 29, 2018

Sick Boy said:
Fair play to you! Whereabouts in the west country are you?

Glorious Weston s mare,Well it is today on the seafront!!

Grendel · Jun 29, 2018

David O'Day said:
Grendal in chatting bubbles shocker, it's 2018 kid not 1865

Basic needs are defined as an essential to stay alive. To my knowledge there is no cause of death resulting from lack of internet availability

wingy · Jun 29, 2018

Grendel said:
Basic needs are defined as an essential to stay alive. To my knowledge there is no cause of death resulting from lack of internet availability

Modern life means you wouldn't be able to function without Internet connectivity.
Maybe in sub sahara environs?

wingy · Jun 29, 2018

Grendel said:
Basic needs are defined as an essential to stay alive. To my knowledge there is no cause of death resulting from lack of internet availability

If you mean mega TV packages ,latest handsets etc Yes ,connectivity though is essential .

Grendel · Jun 29, 2018

wingy said:
Modern life means you wouldn't be able to function without Internet connectivity.
Maybe in sub sahara environs?

In what way wouldn’t you function?

Sick Boy · Jun 29, 2018

Grendel said:
In what way wouldn’t you function?

More and more down south you need a phone with Internet access to even pay for parking. Numerous help resources are available online only as well

Nick · Jun 29, 2018

Grendel said:
In what way wouldn’t you function?

No porn hub.

wingy · Jun 29, 2018

Banking shopping energy education work, all areas losing the human interface. .

Nick · Jun 29, 2018

My daughter's homework is all online, granted it won't kill her but it's a necessity.

Liquid Gold · Jun 29, 2018

wingy said:
Modern life means you wouldn't be able to function without Internet connectivity.
Maybe in sub sahara environs?

We're in the process of moving our office in Ouagadougou to somewhere with reliable internet as it's impossible to do all but the most basic business in Burkina Faso without internet.

chiefdave · Jun 29, 2018

Grendel said:
Basic needs are defined as an essential to stay alive. To my knowledge there is no cause of death resulting from lack of internet availability

The House of Lords Select Committee on Digital Skills doesn't agree with you.
“That is why we conclude that the Government should define the internet as a utility service, available for all to access and use.”
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201415/ldselect/lddigital/111/111.pdf

Grendel · Jun 29, 2018

Sick Boy said:
More and more down south you need a phone with Internet access to even pay for parking. Numerous help resources are available online only as well

But this a discussion on basic needs. A car is a basic need?

Sick Boy · Jun 29, 2018

Grendel said:
But this a discussion on basic needs. A car is a basic need?

As FP mentioned, is gas and electricity a basic need? Are supermarkets a basic need?

Grendel · Jun 29, 2018

chiefdave said:
The House of Lords Select Committee on Digital Skills doesn't agree with you.
“That is why we conclude that the Government should define the internet as a utility service, available for all to access and use.”
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201415/ldselect/lddigital/111/111.pdf

It’s available in public libraries isn’t it?

Grendel · Jun 29, 2018

Sick Boy said:
As FP mentioned, is gas and electricity a basic need? Are supermarkets a basic need?

Gas and electricity yes as if you were cold you could die - a basic need by definition is something that without you cannot live or at least have a potential if incurring death or sickness without.

It’s not a basic need but a minimum expectation

Nick · Jun 29, 2018

Grendel said:
It’s available in public libraries isn’t it?

Are they still a thing?

Sick Boy · Jun 29, 2018

Grendel said:
Gas and electricity yes as if you were cold you could die - a basic need by definition is something that without you cannot live or at least have a potential if incurring death or sickness without.

It’s not a basic need but a minimum expectation

I'm not sure we live in such a cold climate that you'd die from a lack of gas or electricity unless you were frail. How about supermarkets? This could be defined as a luxury as well.

Grendel · Jun 29, 2018

Sick Boy said:
I'm not sure we live in such a cold climate that you'd die from a lack of gas or electricity unless you were frail. How about supermarkets? This could be defined as a luxury as well.

Supermarkets are not a need at all its a random example.

The point was based on the usual poor me generation which berates when House prices were low but failed to acknowledge the huge monthly payments.

When I had my first job I bought a house on £12k a year and nearly £400 on interest alone so around 40% just on the payments.

I bought second hand furniture a £100 car and worked several hours overtime.

Sorry today it would be moan moan and I don’t even have a super fast internet woe is me

Sick Boy · Jun 29, 2018

Grendel said:
Supermarkets are not a need at all its a random example.

The point was based on the usual poor me generation which berates when House prices were low but failed to acknowledge the huge monthly payments.

When I had my first job I bought a house on £12k a year and nearly £400 on interest alone so around 40% just on the payments.

I bought second hand furniture a £100 car and worked several hours overtime.

Sorry today it would be moan moan and I don’t even have a super fast internet woe is me

I'm 33 and part of the 'poor me' generation. I've lived in overpriced run down accommodation that had barely functioning heating throughout winter, bought second hand furniture from house clearances, walked 2 hours a day for a roundtrip to work when I was not earning a lot etc etc.

I've worked hard to earn a comfortable wage now and regularly do 50-60 hour weeks. No generation has it is easy and faces hardships

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