Flying Fokker
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It’s a fair question. Do teams that go down after one season see increased attendances compared to before promotion? Any idea of example teams I can look at?
City‘s went down 15%It’s a fair question. Do teams that go down after one season see increased attendances compared to before promotion? Any idea of example teams I can look at?
It’s a fair question. Do teams that go down after one season see increased attendances compared to before promotion? Any idea of example teams I can look at?
Hadn’t even thought about it previously to be honest. Just playing devils advocate. Suppose it depends on how they played etc
It’s a fair question. Do teams that go down after one season see increased attendances compared to before promotion? Any idea of example teams I can look at?
| 19/20 |
| 23 | 0 | 413,210 | 17,966 |
| 18/19 |
| 19 | 0 | 443,456 | 23,340 |
| 17/18 |
| 19 | 1 | 456,796 | 24,042 |
| 16/17 |
| 23 | 0 | 467,887 | 20,343 |
| 15/16 |
| 23 | 0 | 290,505 | 12,631 |
| 19/20 |
| 23 | 0 | 410,802 | 17,861 |
| 18/19 |
| 19 | 0 | 596,751 | 31,408 |
| 17/18 |
| 23 | 0 | 463,772 | 20,164 |
| 16/17 |
| 23 | 0 | 380,981 | 16,564 |
Can you give a touch more context? Both of those show bug jumps promotion season. Curious if you take the last season out and go forward a couple post relegation if there’s a difference.
Cardiff too:
19/20 Championship 23 0 410,802 17,861 18/19 Premier League 19 0 596,751 31,408 17/18 Championship 23 0 463,772 20,164 16/17 Championship 23 0 380,981 16,564
Not entirely following your thinking, but both were undermined as the Covid season followed. Can’t really put any value in what comes after chronologically.
very optomistic if we sell 14000 would be very pleased ps hope ime wrongWe sold just over 13k last season about 3k kids we have sold 5000 already I’m hopeful that 13000 could go up to 18000+ there will be finance offers I’m sure.
Because ticket revenue means fuck all in the Prem and we’re likely to go straight down so get people hooked now.
Most of the 5k will be existing st holders.We sold just over 13k last season about 3k kids we have sold 5000 already I’m hopeful that 13000 could go up to 18000+ there will be finance offers I’m sure.
Most of the 5k will be existing st holders.
More bad news for Hackney Fox?That’s pretty much what I assumed without doing any research.
Doing well in championship - Larger attendance
Premier League - “We’ve made it” obviously big attendance
Relegated to championship - “This is shit” low attendance, lower than before promotion
For a three year old your English skills are incredible.Some people dot have much expendable income tbh.
Ive kept the money to the side for the past 3 months but thats £350 i could easily use elsewhere. Getting a new car end of July, could add that to the deposit, having a week in Dorset in August, could use it towards that.
There are a lot of people who have to make choices between things, I was one until a couple of years back, and i feel the club are taking the piss a bit
Because PL TV money makes ticket money almost irrelevant. If charging more for ST's mattered so much why have an offer that would have given 5k of them away for free.Why on earth would the club want to sell Premier League season tickets at championship prices?
Which we will have now failed to do because we have lost out on potential sales while interest was high due to the product not being available to buy. And that revenue would be far more important to us now we're staying in the Championship than if we'd gone up to the PL.and?
The aim is still to get as much revenue as possible
Because PL TV money makes ticket money almost irrelevant. If charging more for ST's mattered so much why have an offer that would have given 5k of them away for free.
Fact is that ticket income is far, far more important in the Championship, so any plan for ST prices should have been focused on the prospect of us being in the Championship.
In the run up to the play-offs and the play-offs themselves there was a huge amount of interest from more people in the club that could have resulted in more ST sales. Maybe they'd have bought on the prospect of seeing PL teams playing, but so what - it's still a sale. Now that we've lost the play-offs and the comedown with it, I think many of those potential new sales have been lost because we weren't waiting to grab that business while the interest was there.
IF Doug has held back on releasing ST's in case he could up the price a bit for PL football, he doesn't understand football revenue streams.
Which we will have now failed to do because we have lost out on potential sales while interest was high due to the product not being available to buy. And that revenue would be far more important to us now we're staying in the Championship than if we'd gone up to the PL.
And if, as you seem to be suggesting, the club (DK) has held off releasing ST's in case he could bump up the price for PL football, then they have failed spectacularly in getting more money in as they have lost sales from potential customers that are now no longer interested in buying who were a week or two ago.wrong again. Like it or not, the club is trying to get more money in, not keep people happy. They will say the right things of course but the aim is to get revenue as high as possible, and if that pisses people off then within reason so be it
And if, as you seem to be suggesting, the club (DK) has held off releasing ST's in case he could bump up the price for PL football, then they have failed spectacularly in getting more money in as they have lost sales from potential customers that are now no longer interested in buying who were a week or two ago.
I wonder if it might be worth looking at things like league position as well?I was thinking that teams that go up likely get a crowd boost above the average that season. So rather than looking directly at the season before look at maybe the five before that and the five after relegation.
Dont worry, I’m off having a look myself now I’m interested.
I think you are underestimating the significant rise in interest the last two or three months & it wasn’t just the Wembley thing, I know two or thee getting STs for the first time, but we’ll see.And a fair chunk of that 13k will be kids tickets that won’t be renewed. I think we’ll have done well to get the same again on current prices.
Cardiff averaged 22,822 the season after relegation from the PremiershipCardiff too:
19/20 Championship 23 0 410,802 17,861 18/19 Premier League 19 0 596,751 31,408 17/18 Championship 23 0 463,772 20,164 16/17 Championship 23 0 380,981 16,564
Not sure if it’s been confirmed but I’ve heard that’s not what the plan was/the hold up is.
Obviously prices would rise if we stayed in the Prem, but half the point of a ST early bird discount is you’re buying not sure what you’re getting.
Exactly. Sunderland, Sheffield United, Middlesbrough - they all had season tickets on sale long before they knew what division they would be in, as did we last season.
This idea that the delay was because we were planning to raise prices on the back of promotion, as though this is normal, when there is no example of that ever happening before anywhere else, is a bit weird.
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