Block16Dave
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Could you ask Pete why can’t ST holder have a discount on a corporate upgrade. Be good for birthdays , Christmas , special occasions. Give us X% off and they can resell the ST seat at £37 a pop for big games
Could you ask Pete why can’t ST holder have a discount on a corporate upgrade. Be good for birthdays , Christmas , special occasions. Give us X% off and they can resell the ST seat at £37 a pop for big gamesNeeds a question though
Maybe there have been changes but two years ago my friends treated me to a corporate game for my 80th in one of the lounges and we all had a partial refund on our STs
I think a lot of the tables were groups celebrating special days
If we make the Prem the stadium would be too small who would have thought that a few years ago.? I do suspect the owners of CBS want a massive rent increase if we were promoted.
Not the way football is promoted nowadays I don't think.just the competitors would have bigger better stadia, there'd still be a fair amount with similar to us now, I guess we'd be attempting to make a minimum of £1M per game, not to be sneezed at?If we make the Prem the stadium would be too small who would have thought that a few years ago.? I do suspect the owners of CBS want a massive rent increase if we were promoted.
I was absolutely convinced it was designed to have an extension to the stand where the brick wall is . But that might have been for arena 2000 , I just can’t remember properly. I have mentioned this before but plenty of people have said I am wrongProbably answered elsewhere but give the CBS was originally planned for 40 odd thousand, (retractable pitch, roof, helipad, rocket launcher (satire)) and downscaled during construction; is it still possible to put another tier on? If we got to the Prem, 40k crowds aren’t implausible. MA could afford it, but might not see the need to, I know, but just curious.
Anyone know?
Also, given we are close to capacity , how a ground extension could take place given the time it’s needed for such a project, where would everybody sit? We could reduce the away allowance by maybe 1000I was absolutely convinced it was designed to have an extension to the stand where the brick wall is . But that might have been for arena 2000 , I just can’t remember properly. I have mentioned this before but plenty of people have said I am wrong
It can absolutely be extended. The issue will be the cost and the amount of disruption it causes.I was absolutely convinced it was designed to have an extension to the stand where the brick wall is . But that might have been for arena 2000 , I just can’t remember properly. I have mentioned this before but plenty of people have said I am wrong
Considering we’ve basically sold out STs it’s too small now.
Exactly !!It can absolutely be extended. The issue will be the cost and the amount of disruption it causes.
Cardiff's was the same as ours to start with so that's something to think about.Exactly !!
Thinking about this, the easiest way would be lower the pitch and extend the stands forwards (ie extra rows at the front) (Ibrox style) maybe safe standing all the way around the pitch perimeter.If we make the Prem the stadium would be too small who would have thought that a few years ago.? I do suspect the owners of CBS want a massive rent increase if we were promoted.
I thought that myself. Would have been short sighted to restrict the stadium potential but at that time the decision makers seemed clueless so who knows.I was absolutely convinced it was designed to have an extension to the stand where the brick wall is . But that might have been for arena 2000 , I just can’t remember properly. I have mentioned this before but plenty of people have said I am wrong
It will be too small when we're selling out weekly, which we're not doing at the moment.
I'd say the structure of the 3 main bowl stands (with 90% certainty) is not designed to allow an easy extension.In terms of location sure but the current design is entirely different from Arena 2000 so doubt it’s easy
It’s hard to know what the potential of the club is imo. We’re not as big as the clubs which would fill the above sizes however have a large catchment in Warwickshire and Coventry especially while no professional side is in Warwickshire.If we did become an established PL team, what would people think a sensible capacity would be (given free money and planning permissions)? 50k? 60?
They wanted to celebrate his birthday, not kill him!For your 80th!
They should have given you far more than a partial refund, they should have had Taylor Swift jump out of cake and sing to you!
Drainage issues if you start digging the pitch down though. There's a lot of infrastructure underneath the pitch like undersoil heating and drainage that would need to be completely reworked if you just dig down. And I'm not sure how many extra rows you'd get anyway.Thinking about this, the easiest way would be lower the pitch and extend the stands forwards (ie extra rows at the front) (Ibrox style) maybe safe standing all the way around the pitch perimeter.
Long throws might be affected though….
I just dont see us having that deep a fanbase, but given the last 10-15 years before our resurgence we've obviously had an impact on a huge number of people who were either never invested before or were very occasionals.If we did become an established PL team, what would people think a sensible capacity would be (given free money and planning permissions)? 50k? 60?
We’ve come along way since the weekly ‘your grounds too big for you’ chants.It will be too small when we're selling out weekly, which we're not doing at the moment.
Thats probably as big a barrier as anything, we'd need huge improvement in transport and parking options to increase capacity.Add in that the infrastructure is already struggling to cope with 30K is it just a non-starter.
Talking of transport, is there any indication yet that the club will continue with the free match day bus shuttle service from central six and White street?Thats probably as big a barrier as anything, we'd need huge improvement in transport and parking options to increase capacity.
On the Sunderland forum they will be starting a Coventry withheld money from us in the 90’s page.It’s a bit of a boggle comparing crowds from the 80’s to now.
In the 80’s it might well have been that crowds were under-declared - more actual people in the ground than the declared figure.
Cash at turnstiles, two getting a squeeze in from their mates, chairman might want to be tax efficient to top up player wages and bonuses in readies, police costs might have been less if less people in so temptation might have been to under-declare…..
16000 declared attendance might have meant 20000 humans in the ground….
Whereas now, all season tickets sold are declared in the attendance whether or not people turn up, maybe some comps and freebies issued too are counted.
20000 declared might mean 16000 in the ground.
Best example I can give is the Sunderland cup match around 1990. I was a kid on the Kop and it was packed to a dangerous level probably well over full. Ground seemed packed. 20000 was the declared attendance when the capacity, I think, was 27/28k. Have in mind (I think, please correct if I’m wrong) cup gate receipts were split. Would we want to give Sunderland a full share? Probs not.
There’s probably some AI app now that could count / calculate the number of faces in old photos (if there are sufficient photos / TV footage available).
Anyone technically sharp enough to do that? Just for curiosity?
I just dont see us having that deep a fanbase, but given the last 10-15 years before our resurgence we've obviously had an impact on a huge number of people who were either never invested before or were very occasionals.
I just cant see us being a 40k+ fanbase without several years of PL football. After a couple seasons of mid-low season football it might lose its grip if we're losing notably more than we win at home.
Insester we're looking at extending their ground it is similar to ours.In terms of location sure but the current design is entirely different from Arena 2000 so doubt it’s easy
Lesta so not have the money to expand their plastic ground.Insester we're looking at extending their ground it is similar to ours.
But I remember someone saying that due to the cheaper foundations at the CBS ours would be a lot harder/expensive!
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