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CCFC88

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  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #316
CJ_covblaze said:
I know that's what they have stated and it's probably the one thing I believe them on. I just stated what I felt they should do, not what I thought would happen.

You're wrong btw. They seem to care about what I say and do on here and Twitter. Had plenty of calls from club employees questioning why I've said what I've said.
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Did they ring to ask why you filmed yourself on twitter blubbing at us winning a meaningless trophy?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #317
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Surely at this point a £1m injection would be enough to get us out of the joke of a league we will find ourselves in? Would that not be worth it for the associated rise in attendances and goodwill? Staying a minute longer than necessary in L2 is unthinkable and with 3 automatic promotion slots available all at the club should be aiming at nothing else.
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Possibly but it's acknowledged the Orient owner has spent money - a lot more than that - and well I guess there are exiting the league....
 
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konjickid

Active Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #318
Skybluefaz said:
You'd hope so but look at the prices for legends day and the meagre crowd it attracted, it's a tough nut to crack and really success on the pitch is the only thing that will bring people back.
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Legends day low prices a shot in the dark though. This season is over and you aren't going to attract people in for what is essentially a dead rubber, people only have so much good will to spread around. I live in Bristol. Would I buy a season ticket at a reasonable price, yes - even with SISU at the helm. Not now though. When you add fuel and parking to watch us play Morecombe it becomes a bit silly.

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steve82

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #319
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What's the issue, are you serious?

There's 9 pages of it here to see, as well as every social media outlet going.

It's absolutely clear as day that this was a completely suicidal decision.
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People would of still found reason if it was capped at £250.... while sisu are here people will find reason and the fact we will be in the 4th tier of the football leagues.
Personally looking at other clubs prices were the lowest of the sides going down and likely average in league two.
I don't personally think there would be any spike in sales if it was say £250.
Remember fans said they were not returning regardless
 
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The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #320
I think that Les Reid article is incredibly patronising to most fans of the club.
Firstly I've nothing against Reid and actually agree on most he says , but the reason that thousands of fans will not be buying or renewing season tickets is not because of SISU / council but because the clubs direction and connection with the fans has been totally lost .
Coupled with that and paying good money to watch the worst side since the sixties and the lack of fight and passion shown by those players has been one last step in the wrong direction.
For most it's not about the legal fight between SISU and council , the team is totally shit and most of the players are pub standard at best with no backbone.
We've won 8 games this season and it's natural that's why most won't renew.
Entertainment companies have to invest to attract business, sooner or later the club has to invest some money into buying better players that will then attract back those who have left.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #321
I don't think the pricing is an issue as such (or shouldn't be)

As one poster said they should have done associated benefits.

Also I would have had a flat £299 price round the ground which would represent a reduction.

The issue mostly spouted here is with the owners so I'm not sure a reduction in price with the same owners would make a difference.

If they really did lower prices to Bradford levels it would have to work or they'd be putting them up again next season. I'm not convinced it would.


It's a shame they can't isolate one corner block and sell tickets there at £200 but make the actual purchasers sit there and see if it sells out.

Also Bradford is a buy early offer. Would our fans accept this or complain they haven't seen the assembled squad yet?
 

Nathccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #322
Just throwing it out there. If we had new owners would the price still be too high??

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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #323
steve82 said:
People would of still found reason if it was capped at £250.... while sisu are here people will find reason and the fact we will be in the 4th tier of the football leagues.
Personally looking at other clubs prices were the lowest of the sides going down and likely average in league two.
I don't personally think there would be any spike in sales if it was say £250.
Remember fans said they were not returning regardless
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Of course people would find a reason not to go, that's the whole point. So, so many people don't want to renew because of the shite they have had to endure.

All they need is one reason not to renew, and the club have just managed to achieve it.

Average pricing means nothing. It is all an absolute rip off, and it being the same cost, if not more expensive than last season is quite frankly a joke. £200 and you would get a lot more renewing in my opinion, myself possibly included.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #324
CCFC88 said:
Did they ring to ask why you filmed yourself on twitter blubbing at us winning a meaningless trophy?
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Or filming fans going into earlier rounds...
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #325
steve82 said:
What's the issue?
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If you have a ST in block 18 you've had a 40% increase in two seasons!
 
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steve82

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #326
chiefdave said:
If you have a ST in block 18 you've had a 40% increase in two seasons!
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That's the only thing I do think is wrong, block 18 is not classed as a premium seating area to me.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #327
hill83 said:
Fixed
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Wish there was a treble like button. On a serious note haven't read all the thread yet. But I bet it doesn't compare that bad to the rest of the league.
If the owners refuse to invest in the club ,ticket revenue will be vital. Unfortunately this decision needed to be delivered with some very clever marketing and some incentives.
Also if it's true that some people's tickets have gone up then that's ridiculous.
I don't necessarily disagree with a price fix.
Unfortunately the news needed to be delivered by a chairman the fans like and the rationale explained in a positive manner before it is announced.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #328
Grendel said:
I don't think the pricing is an issue as such (or shouldn't be)

As one poster said they should have done associated benefits.

Also I would have had a flat £299 price round the ground which would represent a reduction.

The issue mostly spouted here is with the owners so I'm not sure a reduction in price with the same owners would make a difference.

If they really did lower prices to Bradford levels it would have to work or they'd be putting them up again next season. I'm not convinced it would.


It's a shame they can't isolate one corner block and sell tickets there at £200 but make the actual purchasers sit there and see if it sells out.

Also Bradford is a buy early offer. Would our fans accept this or complain they haven't seen the assembled squad yet?
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The Bradford model would not work now, because too many fans are disillusioned with the club and are part way through a divorce with it.

I believe the ideal time to drop something like that would be next season if we got promoted, sensibly though of course. For example, if the club said if you sell 10,000 ST's it is £200, and i you sell 15,000 ST's it is £150. Make everyone pay a £50 non-refundable deposit with an opt out after they come off sale. Win-win.

As for this season, there was always not going to be many renewing, but they would have substantially more if they had dropped the cost and added a decent intensive in. The way it is now is just going to be a disaster.
 

Colin Steins Smile

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #329
oldskyblue58 said:
so the current attendance is 9k average and we are going down ........ you want to base on a budget attendance of higher and spend money a self sufficient CCFC simply doesn't have or might never have............ and expect that to pass even the FL cursory scrutiny. The budget can be flexed but there are only two opportunities to spend it July to August and January. By time we get to July CCFC will be well aware of the uptake of ST's and therefore likely walk up sales too, to spend money they haven't got just risks total disaster. Now if SISU fund further that might be different..... they might fund a shortfall in an emergency requiring repayment on player sale but invest for the future? Sorry Italia the worst thing they can do is budget for 10000 knowing the likely figure is 5000
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Good points and well made OSB! My concern is that the clubs leadership have only one business model, which has failed to deliver the positive outcomes surely they would want & to blindly follow their current mantra will not change our fortunes. The saying goes about repeating the same thing and expecting a different result!

In terms of managing the "risk" there are a couple of scenarios which I think should be considered by the leadership:

Are CCFC prepared to commit 55% of income to the playing side, which is the maximum allowed under FFP? If so, they need to make this very clear to the fan base, as currently there is no transparency regarding elements of the business model.
n.b. Before anyone jumps on this stating it could adversely affect our negotiating position for players.....I do not advocate a GBP figure on this being circulated.

Currently, due to alienation of the fan base, a very low "take up" in ST sales of circa 2000 is a realistic projection and should be the basis for the projected budget. This would lead to a very difficult recruitment and development period for the manager & a potential further spiral downwards in the clubs fortunes.
However, if the club can look like they are serious about returning the club to Div 1 at the first attempt, then it's still possible that the ST sales could be significantly higher. A start would be to retain the best of our talented academy graduates and add some seasoned players in key positions.
Additionally, we know there are numerous ways of massaging the FFP figures to give wriggle room for MR, if required, but this would need extensive contacts with external stakeholders to realise.

Fundamentally, will the club commit to 55% of income for the development of the team and that budget under MR's control?
 
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #330
steve82 said:
That's the only thing I do think is wrong, block 18 is not classed as a premium seating area to me.
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We're in block 17 so ours count as being Standard, which saves a few quid.
 
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Voice_of_Reason

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #331
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
SEASON TICKETS: Coventry City announce season tickets details ahead of 2017/18 campaign

Mine looks the same price, I'm afraid CCFC but I'm out!
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The problem as I see it is NOT the cost of a Season Ticket but one of having no confidence in SISU. SISU are the problem, not the cost.
 
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KarmicChris

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #332
The price comes second in my opinion. I paid it last year after all.
It's the principle as many on here have said. Ok have my £300, but where is it going to go? If last season is any judge it's going on court cases and managerial payoffs. No thank you!

I'm 24, had a season ticket for the last 2/3 seasons at Highfield Rd, Been at the Ricoh every year since (worked there for a few seasons so couldn't get one but went to all the matches regardless) Didn't go Northampton and not going next year. Seeing Jodi Jones dropping £600 in a roulette machine in a high street bookies a few months back didn't help either. :android:
 

steve82

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #333
torchomatic said:
We're in block 17 so ours count as being Standard, which saves a few quid.
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I'm in 21 so it's up to me if I'm prepared to pay £15 for league two football. Or I pay £13 and move to somewhere vacant I like on each match day.
That's the only question for me. Am I prepared to pay x price for league two football? And I'm ok to pay it so I will renew and hope others do too and support Mark Robins.
I understand some won't renew for various reason personal to them but that's the consumers choice at the end of the day.
 
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #334
steve82 said:
I'm in 21 so it's up to me if I'm prepared to pay £15 for league two football. Or I pay £13 and move to somewhere vacant I like on each match day.
That's the only question for me. Am I prepared to pay x price for league two football? And I'm ok to pay it so I will renew and hope others do too and support Mark Robins.
I understand some won't renew for various reason personal to them but that's the consumers choice at the end of the day.
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I think it is disappointing that the tickets weren't lowered a little, even by a token amount, but like you I feel that the total cost for me and my lad to watch every game - even in L2 - is good value. And, as I've said countless times I would have renewed whatever. Debating whether to renew or not will never be an issue for me as I will renew whatever league we find ourselves in.

Each to their own and I respect those who choose not too. Similarly respect should be shown to those who choose to renew and not be vilified as in posts by Senor Santiago, which does nothing for "unity".
 
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NortonSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #335
KarmicChris said:
The price comes second in my opinion. I paid it last year after all.
It's the principle as many on here have said. Ok have my £300, but where is it going to go? If last season is any judge it's going on court cases and managerial payoffs. No thank you!

I'm 24, had a season ticket for the last 2/3 seasons at Highfield Rd, Been at the Ricoh every year since (worked there for a few seasons so couldn't get one but went to all the matches regardless) Didn't go Northampton and not going next year. Seeing Jodi Jones dropping £600 in a roulette machine in a high street bookies a few months back didn't help either. :android:
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You were doing so well.
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #336
If they do invest , say just a million over an average league two budget and we are very competitive scoring goals for fun crowds will be 13-15000. Being top we could exceed that.
That extra million will obviously be repaid pretty quickly with increased crowds.
SISU really need to bite the bullet and build on this huge good will and feeling for the club we all got from the Wembley final, if they don't do it this next season the feeling will go. Be really competitive with Robins in charge and investment will get repaid
 
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skybluebeduff

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  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #337
The Reverend Skyblue said:
If they do invest , say just a million over an average league two budget and we are very competitive scoring goals for fun crowds will be 13-15000. Being top we could exceed that.
That extra million will obviously be repaid pretty quickly with increased crowds.
SISU really need to bite the bullet and build on this huge good will and feeling for the club we all got from the Wembley final, if they don't do it this next season the feeling will go. Be really competitive with Robins in charge and investment will get repaid
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We've only waited 10 years for SISU to do it, what's another summer?
 

Sbarcher

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  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #338
The Reverend Skyblue said:
If they do invest , say just a million over an average league two budget and we are very competitive scoring goals for fun crowds will be 13-15000. Being top we could exceed that.
That extra million will obviously be repaid pretty quickly with increased crowds.
SISU really need to bite the bullet and build on this huge good will and feeling for the club we all got from the Wembley final, if they don't do it this next season the feeling will go. Be really competitive with Robins in charge and investment will get repaid
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I agree. Next season really is the make or break. We "should" be grabbing at automatic and that will bring in the fans (even in L2) so it won't really be a gamble if SISU (sorry, CCFC) put their hand in their pocket. If they do that and f**k it up then we 're all doomed, I say we're all doomed.
 

sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #339
Just realised my block, 22, is one of the zones which have been made 'premium' :emoji_rage::emoji_rage:
 
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SkyBlueScottie

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #340
The past few weeks its been brilliant to seer the football club interacting with the City, kids wearing City tops, school kids wearing CCFC scarves to school. It was a reminder of how detached the club has become. I also believe the same effect has been felt by the players, they are going to schools, kids are interested in them. The atmosphere at the ground was much improved and we were like a real united Football club, which considering the last 10 years was remarkable. This though, has quite rightly pissed on everyone's chips. To try and claim prices have been frozen is misleading, for prices to have been frozen this means they should have been the same as last year throughout the respective buying periods. For me and my son this seasons costs to sit in the same seat as the last few years represents an increase of nearly £100... Out of a group of 9 people who held season, we are the remaining 4 and at the best, thats down to 2 for next season.
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #341
had they discounted the price 5% then if 3000 bought tickets at full standard adult early bird price it would cost the club £44,850 compared to what they are doing. If by doing that they then attracted 150 more season tickets they break even. I would guess a little gesture like that would have retained more than 150 renewing
 
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #342
oldskyblue58 said:
had they discounted the price 5% then if 3000 bought tickets at full standard adult early bird price it would cost the club £44,850 compared to what they are doing. If by doing that they then attracted 150 more season tickets they break even. I would guess a little gesture like that would have retained more than 150 renewing
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Totally agree. I suggested earlier than even a small discount of 5% would have worked wonders.
 
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Si80

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  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #343
sw88 said:
Just realised my block, 22, is one of the zones which have been made 'premium' :emoji_rage::emoji_rage:
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You moving Steve?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #344
sw88 said:
Just realised my block, 22, is one of the zones which have been made 'premium' :emoji_rage::emoji_rage:
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Club should give you a seat in the press box!
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #345
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #346
chiefdave said:
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Interest wasn't paid though was it? Interesting fact though.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #347
Nick said:
Interest wasn't paid though was it? Interesting fact though.
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No but it does show how bad the situation is. They should have framed this much better. For a start if they were dropping standard plus or whatever it was called then those blocks should drop to standard not increase to premium.

Some sort of communication explaining why the prices are the same, even if most would call BS, is better than a here's the prices take it or leave it.
 
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #348
I reiterate the point I have read many times in this thread. It's not the price that's the problem it's the owners and the direction of the club.

Yes a price freeze hasn't helped upon a miserable relegation but overall £13 a game isn't bad value at all. How many season tickets go to every single game out the 23? Not many I would suspect. Especially this season.

People are just naturally voting with their feet and wallets. It doesn't need a boycott or protests. The protest will be when they only sell half the season ticket to last year. So say 3k ST tops. Many will be kids also.

Unfortunately what ever the club did want going to be good enough so I don't blame them really for keeping the price where it is. If you were getting one then you still will be. If you weren't getting one would 5% discount made a difference. Not for me.

With new owners which in my eyes in the only answer before we are relegated to the conference fans would of paid £400. Says it all.
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #349
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I don't really care about comparison to other clubs in a sport which is killing itself due to overpricing, player wages, and sky television. It's a fucking farce.

The club have alienated half their fan base and they wish to charge £345 standard pricing for football in the fourth division.

There is literally no argument that can justify this. The club know the people renewing will be the real hardcore only, so they've bled them dry. I find that quite sickening.

Any slim chance of me getting a season ticket next season has now gone.
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Even a small reduction would have been enough to keep some they will now lose, as well
As being a goodwill gesture.
It's just another decision that convinces me they don't really want our support, when they
Finally put this club out of its misery it will be our fault.
 
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Hugh Jarse

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 12, 2017
  • #350
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Surely at this point a £1m injection would be enough to get us out of the joke of a league we will find ourselves in? Would that not be worth it for the associated rise in attendances and goodwill? Staying a minute longer than necessary in L2 is unthinkable and with 3 automatic promotion slots available all at the club should be aiming at nothing else.
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That's assuming the £1M is actually used to improve the squad and not get swallowed up into the great piss pot that is SISU.
 
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