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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #246
Brylowes said:
Are you well respected
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Nah.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #247
oucho said:
In summary
oucho: so what protest ideas have you had?
Nick: lots
oucho: such as?
Nick: lots?
oucho: give us an example
Nick: no
oucho: why not
Nick: lots
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I thought you were an expert on mind reading? The same way you thought people on here may have thought you were an ACL plant even though you weren't registered.

Plus, I have said there are plenty on here. It is better to watch your act though.

I have actually posted a SISU protest example for you also.
 

oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #248
Nick said:
I thought you were an expert on mind reading? The same way you thought people on here may have thought you were an ACL plant even though you weren't registered.

Plus, I have said there are plenty on here. It is funnier to watch your act though.
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It's not an act, I am just genuinely bewildered how anyone who confidently claims to have lots of good ideas refuses to share any despite repeated, reasonable requests to do so.

I'm not an expert on mind reading and I don't fancy reading through your back catalogue - be reasonable and just tell us, yeah?
 

Brylowes

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #249
Nick said:
No, I was meaning it had already been done.
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Honest question, if a particular form of demonstration has been staged and been
Successful, does that mean you can't do it again, because it's been done?
 

oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #250
Nick said:
Take my word for what? That I have posted them before and they can be seen online?

I am not sure why I would make it up.
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I'm not sure why you wouldn't repeat the idea if it's not made up. Bizarre
 

ceetee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #251
Well I don't think we'll get rid of SISU by protesting at matches and I don't agree with starving the football club of funds because that doesn't hit SISU.

I think the approach has to be directly at SISU, not at the Ricoh, but at their places of business. We need to get a message to their investors that they have mismanaged CCFC to the point that the business, not the football but the business, is on the brink of failure, so their judgment and managerial abilities are in question. Unfortunately I don't have the financial knowledge on how best to do that. I do believe that their potential investors will not care about the football club as such but they will care about SISU's competence.
 
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oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #252
Brylowes said:
Honest question, if a particular form of demonstration has been staged and been
Successful, does that mean you can't do it again, because it's been done?
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Nick didn't like the previous ideas so he has thought up his own but for some reason declines to share them in this thread
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #253
This season ticket Blackout...a bit late with their publicity...surely?
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #254
dadgad said:
Please, stop this "agree with me" nonsense.
It does you no favours.
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Lol. you said exactly that in your first post on the thread.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #255
Brylowes said:
Honest question, if a particular form of demonstration has been staged and been
Successful, does that mean you can't do it again, because it's been done?
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It depends what you class as successful or not surely? Lots of back patting and hand shaking doesn't mean a protest has been successful, unless the aim is to get back pats.
 

oucho

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #256
ceetee said:
Well I don't think we'll get rid of SISU by protesting at matches and I don't agree with starving the football club of funds because that doesn't hit SISU.

I think the approach has to be directly at SISU, not at the Ricoh, but at their places of business. We need to get a message to their investors that they have mismanaged CCFC to the point that the business, not the football but the business, is on the brink of failure, so their judgment and managerial abilities are in question. Unfortunately I don't have the financial knowledge on how best to do that. I do believe that their potential investors will not care about the football club as such but they will care about SISU's competence.
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Yep and the previous demos at SISU HQ, one of which I attended, was fun. Who knows if it changed anything on its own but it certainly fitted as part of the campaign
 
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Nick

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #257
oucho said:
It's not an act, I am just genuinely bewildered how anyone who confidently claims to have lots of good ideas refuses to share any despite repeated, reasonable requests to do so.

I'm not an expert on mind reading and I don't fancy reading through your back catalogue - be reasonable and just tell us, yeah?
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Shouldn't really be bewildered, they are on a public website for you to see if you really cared that much.

It's more interesting to watch you try and spin it.
 

oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #258
Nick said:
It depends what you class as successful or not surely? Lots of back patting and hand shaking doesn't mean a protest has been successful, unless the aim is to get back pats.
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Do you mean that an action is pointless unless doing it by itself achieves all the objectives i.e. booting out SISU? Surely there have to be many strands to an overall campaign?
 
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oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #259
Nick said:
Shouldn't really be bewildered, they are on a public website for you to see if you really cared that much.

It's more interesting to watch you try and spin it.
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Why won't you just suggest your idea now?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #260
Brylowes said:
Honest question, if a particular form of demonstration has been staged and been
Successful, does that mean you can't do it again, because it's been done?
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TBF nearly all the ideas have already been done.
Marches, throwing things on the pitch, sittings, staying away,whistles banners,flares,drones.
There are no new ideas out there.
Even doing nothing or supporting the owners have been done.
We are not the only club in this predicament and won't be the last so things will keep going round and round.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #261
oucho said:
Do you mean that an action is pointless unless doing it by itself achieves all the objectives i.e. booting out SISU? Surely there have to be many strands to an overall campaign?
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How do you judge if it's successful or not?

As it stands, my video has achieved as much as it was a strand wasn't it?
 
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dadgad

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #262
Nick said:
You are the one saying it though, not me?
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No, I am saying that the fans cannot and have not been united about what to do.
I am suggesting that IF we could then that is when things might change.
Radical I know.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #263
letsallsingtogether said:
There are no new ideas out there.
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I'd like to modify that.

There are plenty of new ideas, the challenge is getting others to follow them, or getting one to fly in the first place.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #264
dadgad said:
No, I am saying that the fans cannot and have not been united about what to do.
I am suggesting that IF we could then that is when things might change.
Radical I know.
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Well I'm all for sticking Joy in a room with oucho until she agrees to sign over the club.

Would only take ten minutes.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #265
The irony of Oucho having a pop at someone for not answering a question.

Kid's a flake
 

oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #266
Nick said:
How do you judge if it's successful or not?

As it stands, my video has achieved as much as it was a strand wasn't it?
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All we can do is get as many fans behind the protests as possible and keep articulating how we feel, in the hope that the protests create an atmosphere there SISU's will to carry on evaporates. Thankfully unlike you there are plenty of people who are able to point to their ideas on request so even without you we stand a good chance of doing so!!
 
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oucho

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #267
Deleted member 5849 said:
Well I'm all for sticking Joy in a room with oucho until she agrees to sign over the club.

Would only take ten minutes.
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I'll have it done in 5 and have enough time left over for a ciggy
 

oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #268
David O'Day said:
The irony of Oucho having a pop at someone for not answering a question.

Kid's a flake
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I answered your question twice! You just disliked the answer!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #269
oucho said:
All we can do is get as many fans behind the protests as possible and keep articulating how we feel, in the hope that the protests create an atmosphere there SISU's will to carry on evaporates. Thankfully unlike you there are plenty of people who are able to point to their ideas on request so even without you we stand a good chance of doing so!!
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I am perfectly capable.

I've just given you an example of a protest, it didn't get SISU out either.

All that shit like this thread about is create an atmosphere that does the opposite for uniting the fans. Then you will get people getting all excited about the "Majority", but they still can't actually explain what happens next.
 
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dadgad

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #270
torchomatic said:
Lol. you said exactly that in your first post on the thread.
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Sorry, not true. Not even close.
 

oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #271
Nick said:
I am perfectly capable.

I've just given you an example of a protest, it didn't get SISU out either.

All that shit like this thread about is create an atmosphere that does the opposite for uniting the fans. Then you will get people getting all excited about the "Majority", but they still can't actually explain what happens next.
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If you are capable then you are not demonstrating it very well. Makes you look like you're stalling.

I'm not trying to explain about phase 2 - if you look back earlier in this thread I did repeat my own misgivings about "what next" but we first have to articulate our anger.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #272
dadgad said:
Sorry, not true. Not even close.
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You said some should "bury their opinion for the sake of unity". What would you think of that ? Fine as long as others buried their opinions for yours, I presume.

You're being divisive not uniting but you won't even see it.
 
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Nick

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #273
oucho said:
If you are capable then you are not demonstrating it very well. Makes you look like you're stalling.

I'm not trying to explain about phase 2 - if you look back earlier in this thread I did repeat my own misgivings about "what next" but we first have to articulate our anger.
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I really don't give a shit what you think it looks like in fairness. There is no need to stall on anything as it is all online for people to see.

You want to act like you know everything, then crack on.

For now we just have to articulate our anger? That's exactly why it's so easy to pick holes in it, because there is no actual thought behind it.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #274
oucho said:
I answered your question twice! You just disliked the answer!
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Have you fuck answered by question.

Stop squirming and just answer it or ar eyou just another sad hypocrite?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #275
torchomatic said:
You said some should "bury their opinion for the sake of unity".
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tbf, is he wrong?

He hasn't actually said which way it has to go... maybe he has to glide over his opinion a little?
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #276
Anyway, let's tie Joy up and get John Challis to read this thread to her 24/7 until she begs for mercy.
 

oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #277
David O'Day said:
Have you fuck answered by question.

Stop squirming and just answer it or ar eyou just another sad hypocrite?
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Well you asked if I wanted to discuss the future of CCFC? I said yes, and elsewhere in this thread I have done so in addition to answering you directly.
Would you like to re-phrase the question?
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #278
Deleted member 5849 said:
tbf, is he wrong?

He hasn't actually said which way it has to go... maybe he has to glide over his opinion a little?
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Dadgad? Nope, his way or the highway.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #279
torchomatic said:
Dadgad? Nope, his way or the highway.
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I'm playing the ball not the man here. Seen nothing in this thread to suggest anything other than unity, good - disunity, bad.

And I kind of agree with him/her/it on that!
 

oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #280
Nick said:
I really don't give a shit what you think it looks like in fairness. There is no need to stall on anything as it is all online for people to see.

You want to act like you know everything, then crack on.

For now we just have to articulate our anger? That's exactly why it's so easy to pick holes in it, because there is no actual thought behind it.
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If it's online then please point me to it. I'm not saying I know everything - I'm asking a reasonable question and you are unreasonably refusing to answer.
 
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