Evo1883
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Bravo
BravoCool cool. So when they start saying don’t teach about homosexuality or tell kids they’re going to hell we shouldn’t want to die on that hill either?
Religious groups see schools as recruitment grounds, that’s why many buy up academies. We need to get reap about that and be clear what’s appropriate to teach and which protests can be ignored or they’ll take the full mile and be banning teaching of evolution before you know it.
I don't disagree, and that's where they really should be being brought in and given a good kicking.It's clear what giving his name out all over social media is designed to do...they want some nutjob , like in France to do their dirty work and get rid of this teacher .
Most people nowadays are quite happy to live and let live. It's a shame the nutters have to spoil it for everybody else...I say it with a heavy heart knowing my Christian faith is bang to rights in terms of history and for many today still feeling the judgment from religious leaders for being gay or getting divorced or terminating a pregnancy. Let’s talk and understand not offend, shout and aggressively impose are beliefs on others
I always try and imagine how much further forward the human race would be if not for religion...my guess , alot further
Listen to music?Would be interesting to see how many people stood outside the school follow their faith to the letter anyway. The irony is that a fair few of them would probably smoke, drink, gamble, have a tattoo etc.
I am sure you could go through a long list of things not allowed by Islam and find they aren't actually following it properly but kick off when others don't.
Faith won’t hold back progress. Dogmatic religion that is unwilling to evolve has and will and will always do so. It’s a fundamental human flaw that includes more than just religion but I hear you brother loud and clear as would Galileo and Darwin to name a couple of faith filled scientists who wanted to understand more about the world for everyoneI always try and imagine how much further forward the human race would be if not for religion...my guess , alot further
It’s called understanding and wisdom shmmee. It shows a willingness to accept what we can’t change and change what we canI used to think this. But if we’re honest there’s a fundamental flaw in a given percentage of humans that makes them susceptible to nonsense and if it’s not religion it’ll be auras or horoscopes or conspiracy theories or just weird allegiance to a bit of cloth or a trade deal.
Not sure how you fix that. We’re very good at ripping down old structures that aren’t perfect but do still serve some purpose and not replacing them with anything. Church gives a lot of people meaning and social structure in their life, just like mass employment did, just like traditional family structures did. And we seem very quick to say “this does some seriously bad things burn it all down” before we’ve thought at all about what to replace it with.
Or maybe I’m just hitting 40
Faith won’t hold back progress. Dogmatic religion that is unwilling to evolve has and will and will always do so. It’s a fundamental human flaw that includes more than just religion but I hear you brother loud and clear as would Galileo and Darwin to name a couple of faith filled scientists who wanted to understand more about the world for everyone
I don't know what it's like in other schools, but an RE teacher I used to know, it was (nowadays) as much about showing the differing faiths in the world (including agnosticism/atheism) as championing one / many faith(s). That seems reasonable to me.
Might be reflective as I’m at a dear friends funeral who died too soon of a heart attack following Covid wrecking her lungs.Preach!
....and I say that as a nailed-on atheist......assuming the phrase "nailed-on" isn't too offensive to anyone....
Cool cool. So when they start saying don’t teach about homosexuality or tell kids they’re going to hell we shouldn’t want to die on that hill either?
Religious groups see schools as recruitment grounds, that’s why many buy up academies. We need to get reap about that and be clear what’s appropriate to teach and which protests can be ignored or they’ll take the full mile and be banning teaching of evolution before you know it.
It’s called understanding and wisdom shmmee. It shows a willingness to accept what we can’t change and change what we can
Yeah and animals and their careI think Ricky Gervais has spoken brilliantly about atheism and religion quite a few times.
I think Ricky Gervais has spoken brilliantly about atheism and religion quite a few times.
Yeah and animals and their care
Although on here at 11.39 to post this and liked by a bunch of other teachers. I know you guys have long holidays, but this taking the piss now. .... and yes I know you have your 'marking' and lesson planning to do ....It is really funny seeing what some people think we do and don’t teach in school. Thanks to Michael Gove we have to teach ‘British values’ in PSHE and can no longer teach American texts in GCSE English. But yes we do also teach not to behead someone over a religious disagreement.
I’m moving house today.... been packed up for 3 hours now and waiting for the shite solicitors to get themselves together and sort it!Although on here at 11.39 to post this and liked by a bunch of other teachers. I know you guys have long holidays, but this taking the piss now. .... and yes I know you have your 'marking' and lesson planning to do ....
(has anyone got a tin hat I can borrow for a couple of hours please?)
Can't you do it out of term time? I hope there's a fine of £200 for missing school ;-)I’m moving house today.... been packed up for 3 hours now and waiting for the shite solicitors to get themselves together and sort it!
Although on here at 11.39 to post this and liked by a bunch of other teachers. I know you guys have long holidays, but this taking the piss now. .... and yes I know you have your 'marking' and lesson planning to do ....
(has anyone got a tin hat I can borrow for a couple of hours please?)
It’s called a ‘free period’.
Which lasts for 8 hours
Call it cultural studies if you will, but it's learning about the ociety we live in.This is the problem - labeling anyone who holds a rational position as having a position based on a belief. Rationality is a thought process, not a belief 'system', whereas atheism is a belief that there is no God.
Labeling the application of that rationality as a stance towards the possible existence of a supernatural being as a belief is then used to provide credibility to the possibility of the belief system it is said to oppose.
It is not for me to produce or engage in a belief system that there is no God (atheism), any more than I should be required to produce or engage in a belief system that disapproves that our leaders are shape-shifting lizards.
Rather, it is for those who have imaginary fathers and mothers (or shape-shifting lizards) to prove that they exist. Until such time (which is likely to be never), why should a belief system on a particular subject such as the existence of a supernatural being be the subject on the school curriculum at all?
People use religion for power, control, validation. The people who do that would use something else, with no religion.I used to think this. But if we’re honest there’s a fundamental flaw in a given percentage of humans that makes them susceptible to nonsense and if it’s not religion it’ll be auras or horoscopes or conspiracy theories or just weird allegiance to a bit of cloth or a trade deal.
Not sure how you fix that. We’re very good at ripping down old structures that aren’t perfect but do still serve some purpose and not replacing them with anything. Church gives a lot of people meaning and social structure in their life, just like mass employment did, just like traditional family structures did. And we seem very quick to say “this does some seriously bad things burn it all down” before we’ve thought at all about what to replace it with.
Or maybe I’m just hitting 40
Everyone’s entitled to freedom of speech it’s a cartoon ffs, hopefully the police will be fining them all
Some sentence that, champions free speech at the start and calls for protestors to be fined at the end!
It's not a fine for the speech though is it?Some sentence that, champions free speech at the start and calls for protestors to be fined at the end!
Draw your own. Forum drawing competition, best one wins a surprise package.Not trying to be clever here....but where can i see this cartoon of Mohammed ?
I was not trying to be clever ...but you was & failed ..Draw your own. Forum drawing competition, best one wins a surprise package.
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It's not a fine for the speech though is it?
It's like me saying I'm going to protest against speed cameras by driving through them at 150mph.
It's not taking away my freedom of speech if I get a ban.
IMO RE should be used to teach values such as tolerance, respect and friendship for example. It can be done without having to go into the finer detail of any particular religion.
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