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Doncaster Rovers Chairman John Ryan was so concerned by the plight of the Sky Blues and their current rent position that he approached the club's Directors in the Boardroom before Coventry's recent away match at the Keepmoat Stadium with an offer of moral support a well as full details of the Rovers' new 99 year lease agreed with Doncaster Council, which is dramatically different from the £1 million a year rent Doncaster Rovers paid in the Championship. (Rates were not charged to the club). Both clubs were relegated from the Championship last season.
Why do we get charged rates at all?
it's like being in the boxing ring with Doncaster with one arm tied behind our back!
If Doncaster council don't charge rates to their FC why do Coventry?
imp:
PWKH,
Could you clear up something concerning your involvement in the stadium from it's early days?
MFDoom brought up the fact that there was a stadium company, pre-ACL Football Investors Ltd which you were a director of, with Robinson, McGinnity,Hover and Derek Higgs also as directors.
What was the ownership structure and purpose of this?
Were the rent agreements and costs arranged through this company?
Does it still have any involvement at all?
I notice that it is still in place with you as the sole director now?
https://www.duedil.com/company/04315455/football-investors-limited/people
Also Mr Fisher asks for mediation, fair enough, so i take it he wouldn't be against an open debate with the other parties attending, forum style perhaps on radio or another venue where the general public can attend and ask questions.
Grendel - neither KH or me are calling Tim Fisher a liar, all KH has done is report what was said and I have confirmed it. Please do not try and twist what KH has reported in good faith.
Grendel - neither KH or me are calling Tim Fisher a liar, all KH has done is report what was said and I have confirmed it. Please do not try and twist what KH has reported in good faith.
Of course. Everyone has. Couldn't agree more. This is why some sort of arbitration would probably be a good thing.
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Doncaster Rovers Chairman John Ryan was so concerned by the plight of the Sky Blues and their current rent position that he approached the club's Directors in the Boardroom before Coventry's recent away match at the Keepmoat Stadium with an offer of moral support a well as full details of the Rovers' new 99 year lease agreed with Doncaster Council, which is dramatically different from the £1 million a year rent Doncaster Rovers paid in the Championship. (Rates were not charged to the club). Both clubs were relegated from the Championship last season.
Why do we get charged rates at all?
it's like being in the boxing ring with Doncaster with one arm tied behind our back!
If Doncaster council don't charge rates to their FC why do Coventry?
imp:
Thats exactly how i see it Jan and its up to us to make our own conclusions from the gathered information from trusted sources !!!
Can we be clear what we are asking for ......
TF wants mediation ....... which could be a long drawn out process that attempts to find a compromise
arbitration is a process where someone independent looks at the available info, arguments and decides the solution ........ TF is not suggesting this
I am sure fishers libel lawyer has already made his mind up about your previous post.
Can we be clear what we are asking for ......
TF wants mediation ....... which could be a long drawn out process that attempts to find a compromise
arbitration is a process where someone independent looks at the available info, arguments and decides the solution ........ TF is not suggesting this
got a feeling it has something to do with the stadium being classed as being used as a community stadium ...... Doncaster base all their community work there I believe. But that is a educated best guess ....... thats the basis sports clubs I deal with make the rates claim
TY OSB, Is there a big difference between the contribution that Doncaster FC and CCFC make to the community? Surely the difference is in the sentiment coming from DCC and CCC. Doncaster CC must have wanted to support DFC and have taken very significant steps to improve the arrangement for the club! rates is just one.
a point by point comparison of the Doncaster arrangement would leave us with several arms tied behind the back!
http://www.ccfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-261212-559871.aspx
imp:
Which would again suggest that the real SISU goals are to continue to avoid payment altogether and starve ACL of funds?
ACL should just end the argument - proceed to a winding up petition, then we'll see the whites of SISU's eyes. Hopefully this risky game will end with CCFC surviving in non-SISU hands and with SISU out of our lives for good.
Last night Tim Fisher did state he had asked ACL for mediation but only during a radio broadcast and on the clubs website, no direct request made to ACL with terms of reference or anything like that. I believe when Linnell pressed him on the radio on Saturday about abiding by any third party decision he avoided giving an answer - maybe someone could confirm that.
I am sure fishers libel lawyer has already made his mind up about your previous post.
Or it could just be a process that attempts to find a compromise that both sides are happy with?
Isn't that the difference between mediation and arbitration. my understanding (before reaching for the dictionary) is the former is not binding on either party the latter is.
imp:
I think this whole thing has become so acrimonious that when (please let that be soon) an agreement is finally reached I doubt either side will be happy
Ashbyjan, we all crave for an agreement, would you say this process would be worth it if an agreement favourable to CCFC is agreed?
Your right which is probably why he didn't wish to be drawn on it
When this is finalised and surely it has to be before long I think Fisher will be asked by Sisu to fall on his sword so a new guy can come in and deal with ACL etc - so much bad feeling and miss-trust has been generated by this entire fiasco under Fisher that I can't see any other way forward for the club with him remaining at the helm
isnt it a question of degree of favourability SBT ........... the amount of rent in L1 seems to have been accepted by both sides ?
really all that mediation is, is a referee that tries to keep things civil. Are not all successful contract negotiations all about successful mediation (just no referee)
Actually TF is doing more than seek mediation - he is suggesting a specific mediator with particular knowledge of football finances. Deloites? to help get over their specific problems that perhaps are difficult to get over to ACL or the Council.
Of course ACL could ignor this request and simply press on for their pound of flesh! but I hope they accept this and try to understand the problems better, after all its not binding on either side.
imp:
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